PDA's long term target said to be Klay Thompson?

[Gilles]

Will really depend on where Mclemore is. If Mclemore is a lesser offensive version of Klay with superior defense, Kings don't need Thompson, and, sorry, Klay couldn't be had for $8 million per. He will get $10, most likely $11 million at least, and I'm sure if Warriors don't go down with injuries, the owner wouldn't mind stepping into LT for one year if it meant keeping Klay. Plus LT is calculated on June, 30th, so at the deadline 2015, when Lee is owed only $5 million for the rest of the season they could easily swing him for a lesser expiring, giving up some minor asset, and avoid the tax altogether.

 

[jalfa]

Oh well in that case 12 to bogut 15 to lee 12 to AI and almost 11 to steph. 50 mil then another 16 mil wrapped in 6 players. So GS at 66 million next year with only 10 players and the next season klay will be looking for 8 mil starting contract. I think klay could be had

I think that they're actually more likely to dump Lee or bite the bullet and pay luxury tax for a year. Thompson has clearly demonstrated his value for their team and is probably a bigger part of their future than Lee or Barnes.

 

[Entity]

I think that they're actually more likely to dump Lee or bite the bullet and pay luxury tax for a year. Thompson has clearly demonstrated his value for their team and is probably a bigger part of their future than Lee or Barnes.

Yeah I thought that as well until they just traded for two more sg's

 

[jalfa]

Yeah I thought that as well until they just traded for two more sg's

Crawford plays PG these days and Brooks is really just an inconsequential throw-in. neither of those guys is going to be their long-term SG.

 

[Entity]

Crawford plays PG these days and Brooks is really just an inconsequential throw-in. neither of those guys is going to be their long-term SG.

Look dude it was not my intent to be a long standing debate about the plans of the golden state warriors. You don't know and I don't know. I was pointing out a change in structure that could directly relate to the thread title. Yeah remember that it was about PDA's long term target. In this instance it happens to be klay Thompson. Sure I could be on your side and debunk ever little thing. Of course I could have debunked that we would trade Webber to Philly for scraps. Or that Toronto would trade gay for scraps. Minnesota would trade Garnett for scraps. The list goes on and on. $$$$ has a lot to do with everything. It's the very reason Harden is in Houston and not OKC. So I felt it relevant to point out that over 50 mil tied into 4 players not named Klay Thompson is a key point.

 

[jalfa]

Look dude it was not my intent to be a long standing debate about the plans of the golden state warriors. You don't know and I don't know. I was pointing out a change in structure that could directly relate to the thread title. Yeah remember that it was about PDA's long term target. In this instance it happens to be klay Thompson. Sure I could be on your side and debunk ever little thing. Of course I could have debunked that we would trade Webber to Philly for scraps. Or that Toronto would trade gay for scraps. Minnesota would trade Garnett for scraps. The list goes on and on. $$$$ has a lot to do with everything. It's the very reason Harden is in Houston and not OKC. So I felt it relevant to point out that over 50 mil tied into 4 players not named Klay Thompson is a key point.

what exactly are you so upset about here? you made a case for Klay Thompson being more available now, I argued against it. isn't that how this is supposed to work? I don't get what your examples have to do with this specific trade either. the closest of those to Klay's situation is Harden, who got traded when his rookie deal ran out. but in that instance OKC had two max deals plus Ibaka's large contract to account for and balked at handing out a third max contract on top (a move that's still criticised by many, btw). GS doesn't really have those problems since they've managed to retain Curry on the cheap and most of their other contracts are reasonable, to a degree.

 

[Entity]

Not upset lol. I just feel obligated to reply to quotes. And I don't care about the subject enough for it to keep up. Pretty much sums it up I guess lol. Original post was really just early Saturday musings.

 

[bajaden]

Look dude it was not my intent to be a long standing debate about the plans of the golden state warriors. You don't know and I don't know. I was pointing out a change in structure that could directly relate to the thread title. Yeah remember that it was about PDA's long term target. In this instance it happens to be klay Thompson. Sure I could be on your side and debunk ever little thing. Of course I could have debunked that we would trade Webber to Philly for scraps. Or that Toronto would trade gay for scraps. Minnesota would trade Garnett for scraps. The list goes on and on. $$$$ has a lot to do with everything. It's the very reason Harden is in Houston and not OKC. So I felt it relevant to point out that over 50 mil tied into 4 players not named Klay Thompson is a key point.

I think your point is relevant! The Warriors will be pushing up against the luxury tax, and PDA did say that he'd love to have Thompson. One assumes that he's looking at the same thing were looking at and that possibly something has to give. It'll all come down to the Warriors brain trust. I think they believe they have a chance at winning the championship this year, and to be honest, I think they have just as good a chance as any other team in the western division. If they come close this year, I doubt they do much in the way of breaking up what they have, even if they have to pay a little luxury tax. I looked at their salary situation, and here's what I found.

Going into the 2015/16 season, barring any trades etc next season, and based on all committed salaries, and them picking up the team option salaries they should be at $61,423,848.00 in salaries. That would include the following players.

Bogut
Lee
Iguodala
Curry
Speights - Player option
Barnes - Team option
Ezeli - Team option
Nedovic - Team optiion

That leaves them Thompson, and Green as the two most important players that are up for qualifying offers. The luxury tax for this year is set at $71,748,000.00 which would give them around a 10 mil to play with before getting into the luxury tax. However, were not talking about this year, and next season the luxury tax is projected to be close to $74 million, so one has to assume that in the 2015/16 season it will go up even more. If so, they just might be able resign Thompson and Green and still stay under the tax, or maybe slightly over. In any event, they just might be able to keep the current team in tack for a little longer.

 

[jalfa]

Not upset lol. I just feel obligated to reply to quotes. And I don't care about the subject enough for it to keep up. Pretty much sums it up I guess lol. Original post was really just early Saturday musings.

ok, cool.

I think your point is relevant! The Warriors will be pushing up against the luxury tax, and PDA did say that he'd love to have Thompson. One assumes that he's looking at the same thing were looking at and that possibly something has to give. It'll all come down to the Warriors brain trust. I think they believe they have a chance at winning the championship this year, and to be honest, I think they have just as good a chance as any other team in the western division. If they come close this year, I doubt they do much in the way of breaking up what they have, even if they have to pay a little luxury tax. I looked at their salary situation, and here's what I found.

Going into the 2015/16 season, barring any trades etc next season, and based on all committed salaries, and them picking up the team option salaries they should be at $61,423,848.00 in salaries. That would include the following players.

Bogut
Lee
Iguodala
Curry
Speights - Player option
Barnes - Team option
Ezeli - Team option
Nedovic - Team optiion

That leaves them Thompson, and Green as the two most important players that are up for qualifying offers. The luxury tax for this year is set at $71,748,000.00 which would give them around a 10 mil to play with before getting into the luxury tax. However, were not talking about this year, and next season the luxury tax is projected to be close to $74 million, so one has to assume that in the 2015/16 season it will go up even more. If so, they just might be able resign Thompson and Green and still stay under the tax, or maybe slightly over. In any event, they just might be able to keep the current team in tack for a little longer.

out of interest, where did you get those numbers from? shamsports has them at $56,040,600 without the options for Green and Thompson, meaning they'd have more than enough money to resign them and even fill out the roster some, especially if they let go off Speights, for instance (who has kinda sucked this year).

 

[bajaden]

ok, cool.



out of interest, where did you get those numbers from? shamsports has them at $56,040,600 without the options for Green and Thompson, meaning they'd have more than enough money to resign them and even fill out the roster some, especially if they let go off Speights, for instance (who has kinda sucked this year).

The decision about Speights is his, since its a players option, and he's unlikely to opt out. The 56 mil total doesn't include the contracts of Barnes, Ezeli, and Nedovic, all of which are team options, and I don't see them not picking up those contracts. I got the info at this site.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-teams/

Went and looked at Shamsports and the only difference I see is they have Speights as a team option and basketballinsider has him as a player option. If it is a team option, then they may decide to dump him. I'll have to check another site.

Went and checked Hoopshype, and they also have Speights as a team option, so I'm going to assume that's correct and if it is, then you can knock off another 3.8 mill off the total.

 

[ParniValjak]

Just a question to ponder, if Klay Thompson truly is PDA's target, then can we have IT as this team's PG? I suspect not since there are not enough shots to go around with Cousins-Gay-K. Thompson-IT.

If this is truly accurate then PDA does not see IT as the long term PG for this team.

 

[Glenn]

Just a question to ponder, if Klay Thompson truly is PDA's target, then can we have IT as this team's PG? I suspect not since there are not enough shots to go around with Cousins-Gay-K. Thompson-IT.

If this is truly accurate then PDA does not see IT as the long term PG for this team.

No. You explained it.

 

[Bricklayer]

Why oh why won't this thing die???

Young up and coming power teams typically don't dump their top young players breaking out, no matter what opposing GMs want them to do.

 

[jalfa]

The decision about Speights is his, since its a players option, and he's unlikely to opt out. The 56 mil total doesn't include the contracts of Barnes, Ezeli, and Nedovic, all of which are team options, and I don't see them not picking up those contracts. I got the info at this site.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-teams/

Went and looked at Shamsports and the only difference I see is they have Speights as a team option and basketballinsider has him as a player option. If it is a team option, then they may decide to dump him. I'll have to check another site.

Went and checked Hoopshype, and they also have Speights as a team option, so I'm going to assume that's correct and if it is, then you can knock off another 3.8 mill off the total.

yeah, the numbers are both the same, Deeks seems to have just made a mistake adding them up in the Total Salaries figure. my bad. sort of.

 

[The_Jamal]

People know Klay is a great defender right?

 

[Gilles]

When Iggy takes the best offensive player, Klay is pretty good.

 

[Bricklayer]

People know Klay is a great defender right?

Yeah...no.

Its a bit like Grevis looking like a good defender last year or whatever that was. Team and system. But Klay is certainly better than was expected for a player of his type. Just one of those things where you take Bogut away form behind him, you take Iggy away so Klay has to take the tough covers and...not so much a great defender as one solid enough not to mess up a good defensive system. Peja principle from our peak years.