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Nothing good ever happens past midnight!
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Not really, just two http:// tags in front.Mad D said:broken link
Ryan@CU said:Introducing the worst #1 draft pick of all time.
Funny you mention that. My dad and I were in Vegas 10 years back and we saw Sir Charles drinking and gambling the night before the Suns played the Lakers. We thought, "hey, let's put some money down on the Lakers. There's no way Charles is going to have energy for the game after tonight." Funny thing, he scored 32 points and grabbed 13 boards in the Suns victory. Some guys can stay up all night I guess.Bartking said:I wonder how often players go out the night before a game and drink and stay out late.
Hot Rod Hundley is the worst #1 draft pick of all time.Ryan@CU said:Introducing the worst #1 draft pick of all time.
Kandi-man's up there, but there have been a few who have been worse. Heck, we drafted a contender ourselves once upon a time!bdouble013 said:Seriously, is there even a question that the Kandi-man is the worst draft pick ever? I heard this report on ESPN news and I wasn't that shocked. You know your reputation sucks when you can't shock the general public after getting tasered at a bar.
i know rightRyan@CU said:Introducing the worst #1 draft pick of all time.
How do you come by that assessment? Olowokandi's career high for PPG in a season isn't even as high as Joe Smith's career average. Smith is a better offensive player in every aspect, and is also a better offensive rebounder, despite being almost three inches shorter.sloter said:Wait, wasn't Joe Smith #1 pick as well? I think he's worse than Olowokandi.
Well, Joe sucks too and was a terrble #1. Its just when we are talking about Kandiman there's suck and then there's SUCK.sloter said:Yeah, you're probably right. I always saw Smith as a pretty big disappointment, but looking at his stats now, he seems like a decent player.
Joe Smith was a terrible #1, but he doesn't "suck." He's a career starter, whose career numbers compare favorably to players like PJ Brown and Lorenzen Wright, and reasonably well against players like Rasheed Wallace, and hardly anyone ever says that they suck. I feel fairly certain that, had Smith not been taken as the number one overall pick, people wouldn't be nearly as critical about him as they are.Bricklayer said:Well, Joe sucks too and was a terrble #1. Its just when we are talking about Kandiman there's suck and then there's SUCK.![]()
As do I -- his draft spot is the anvil around his ankle the same way that contract was Juwann Howard's. But he's nowhere even remotely the player that PJ or Sheed are, whatever the numbers say. Lorenzen Wright? Well, sure perhaps. If he really wants to be compared to him (Smith is smoother I think).Mr. S£im Citrus said:Joe Smith was a terrible #1, but he doesn't "suck." He's a career starter, whose career numbers compare favorably to players like PJ Brown and Lorenzen Wright, and reasonably well against players like Rasheed Wallace, and hardly anyone ever says that they suck. I feel fairly certain that, had Smith not been taken as the number one overall pick, people wouldn't be nearly as critical about him as they are.
I think that the perception of Rasheed being a borderline "great" player is subjective; I've always felt that he was one of the most overrated players in the history of the league. And as far as PJ Brown goes, you're going to have to sell me on that: I watch a fair amount of basketball, and I just don't see the argument that he's better than Smith.Bricklayer said:As do I -- his draft spot is the anvil around his anjle the same way that contract was Juwann Howard's. But he's nowhere even remotely the player that PJ or Sheed are, whatever the numbers say. Lorenzen Wright? Well, sure perhaps. If he really wants to be compared to him (Smith is smoother I think).
You realize, of course, that Smith has been on playoff teams for more than half his career, and still managed to put up solid numbers as a starter?Bricklayer said:Anyway, he's a perfectly acceptable rotation bench player -- starts for bad teams without real starters, 6th/7th/8th man ona good team.