Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)

Without trading Mike Bibby, the Kings have to make a run for Paul Pierce. He's the only All-star that may be available other than Artest who's been discussed already. The Warriors got Baron Davis and it's paid off. Considering how bad the Kings are doing now and that they won't be in a situation where Pierce will have zero support, they need to go for it. He can rebound, play defense, play well under pressure, and he's a leader.
 
Come to think about it, sending Bibby to Boston may not be a bad idea considering he has a big contract and he's not the player Paul Pierce is. I'm not sure if Boston would want to take on Bibby's contract though.
 
King4Life said:
Come to think about it, sending Bibby to Boston may not be a bad idea considering he has a big contract and he's not the player Paul Pierce is. I'm not sure if Boston would want to take on Bibby's contract though.
Boston has coveted Bibby for awhile now.
 
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Mike Bibby
6-1 PG from Arizona
19.5 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.4 apg in 37.0 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
3.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.3 minutes
Incoming
Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.4 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 4.5 apg in 38.7 minutes
Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
7.1 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 18.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: +10.2 ppg, +3.9 rpg, and +0.8 apg.


Boston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.4 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 4.5 apg in 38.7 minutes
Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
7.1 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 18.3 minutes
Incoming
Mike Bibby
6-1 PG from Arizona
19.5 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 5.4 apg in 37.0 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
3.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -10.2 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and -0.8 apg.



Successful Scenario
 
I am perfectly cool with that, not only Pierce, but I really like Banks.

Bibby/Davis/Corliss or Gomes/Jefferson/Blount or LaFrentz or Perkins

Banks/Bonzi/Pierce/SAR/Brad Miller - Peja, traded for someone good or good pieces.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Kings113 said:
I am perfectly cool with that, not only Pierce, but I really like Banks.

Bibby/Davis/Corliss or Gomes/Jefferson/Blount or LaFrentz or Perkins

Banks/Bonzi/Pierce/SAR/Brad Miller
Ahem -- you forgot about somebody that would almost surely have to be traded in a separate deal under that scenario.

Been here a few years. ;)

Edit -- cheater. ;)
 
Do you think new orleans would do this?
Sacramento Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

2006 first round pick

Francisco Garcia

6-7 SF from Louisville

4.4 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 16.8 minutes

Bonzi Wells

6-5 SG from Ball State

15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 34.4 minutes

Incoming

J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
10.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.8 minutes

David West

6-8 PF from Xavier

16.8 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 35.8 minutes

Desmond Mason

6-5 SF from Oklahoma State

10.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.1 minutes

Change in team outlook: +17.9 ppg, +4.8 rpg, and -0.5 apg.


New Orleans Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

J.R. Smith

6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)

10.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.8 minutes

David West

6-8 PF from Xavier

16.8 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 35.8 minutes

Desmond Mason

6-5 SF from Oklahoma State

10.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.1 minutes

Incoming

Francisco Garcia
6-7 SF from Louisville
4.4 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 16.8 minutes

Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 34.4 minutes

Change in team outlook: -17.9 ppg, -4.8 rpg, and +0.5 apg.





Successful ScenarioDue to Sacramento being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.



Trade IDEvery trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario. The Trade ID for this scenario is 2810109.


It makes us a lot younger and more athletic right now. We'd probably get a terrible pick(like 7th...) if we go into the lottery. New Orleans gets an expirer they can resign reasonably and another pick. They also get garcia. Then we trade Peja, SAR, Corliss, for Pierce, Banks, and Blount.

I think:

Bibby/Blount/Price(cut hart)
Desmond Mason/JR/Kevin
Pierce/Kevin/Mason
West/Skinner
Miller/Blount

is a pretty good team. Then we get paul silas to coach so we can play defense. Even if we missed the playoffs that's a pretty good future with Martin, JR Smith, and David West. What do you guys think? (also I have a wierd feeling about the NOK deal, which usually means it's a good deal or absolutely horrible)
 

SLAB

Hall of Famer
BMiller52 said:
Do you think new orleans would do this?
Sacramento Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

2006 first round pick

Francisco Garcia

6-7 SF from Louisville

4.4 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 16.8 minutes

Bonzi Wells

6-5 SG from Ball State

15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 34.4 minutes

Incoming

J.R. Smith
6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)
10.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.8 minutes

David West

6-8 PF from Xavier

16.8 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 35.8 minutes

Desmond Mason

6-5 SF from Oklahoma State

10.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.1 minutes

Change in team outlook: +17.9 ppg, +4.8 rpg, and -0.5 apg.


New Orleans Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

J.R. Smith

6-6 SG from St. Benedict's Prep (HS)

10.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.8 minutes

David West

6-8 PF from Xavier

16.8 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 35.8 minutes

Desmond Mason

6-5 SF from Oklahoma State

10.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.1 minutes

Incoming

Francisco Garcia
6-7 SF from Louisville
4.4 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 16.8 minutes

Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
15.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 34.4 minutes

Change in team outlook: -17.9 ppg, -4.8 rpg, and +0.5 apg.





Successful ScenarioDue to Sacramento being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.



Trade IDEvery trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario. The Trade ID for this scenario is 2810109.


It makes us a lot younger and more athletic right now. We'd probably get a terrible pick(like 7th...) if we go into the lottery. New Orleans gets an expirer they can resign reasonably and another pick. They also get garcia. Then we trade Peja, SAR, Corliss, for Pierce, Banks, and Blount.

I think:

Bibby/Blount/Price(cut hart)
Desmond Mason/JR/Kevin
Pierce/Kevin/Mason
West/Skinner
Miller/Blount

is a pretty good team. Then we get paul silas to coach so we can play defense. Even if we missed the playoffs that's a pretty good future with Martin, JR Smith, and David West. What do you guys think? (also I have a wierd feeling about the NOK deal, which usually means it's a good deal or absolutely horrible)
No chance...Unfortunatly.

Even with the pick, I don't think a player like Bonzi, and a completly unproven kid like Cisco could pry away,

1: Potentially the most improved player in the league.
2: A young, athletic potential filled J.R. Smith.
3: An athletic freak, who has some skills, Desmond Mason.
 
i say we trade SAR for Darko,
and then bonzi for desmond mason - cos i dont like the idea of having two of our starters in contract years, but also because i dont think our GM will trade peja

mason is younger than bonzi, Darko has potential - major potential and we seem to do well with european big men on the roster - hahaha, there our starting fice could be

bibby, mason, peja, Darko, Miller

just my idea? any thoughts
i would also to add that i am very drunk right now aswell
 
there is no way we get pierce without giving up a exp contract, boston is not interested in getting more money they are rebuilding. And to me we are rebuilding too we need to start giving up our big contracts for draft picks and exp contracts we need to think about the future. We are most likely going to look like por, Alt, and Tor in a few years and that is not a bad thing, in 5 to 6 years those team will be nice teams, we need just need to be patient.

And may opinion Pierce will most likely be going to houston. Unlike the kings they have the exp contracts and the draft pick to get the deal done and when healthy is a great team but just missing that third scorer. To me, the rockets will not be going any where this year they are thinking about next year and if that deal goes down and they stay healthy, they will be big time contenders.
 
DaMan said:
there is no way we get pierce without giving up a exp contract, boston is not interested in getting more money they are rebuilding. And to me we are rebuilding too we need to start giving up our big contracts for draft picks and exp contracts we need to think about the future. We are most likely going to look like por, Alt, and Tor in a few years and that is not a bad thing, in 5 to 6 years those team will be nice teams, we need just need to be patient.

And may opinion Pierce will most likely be going to houston. Unlike the kings they have the exp contracts and the draft pick to get the deal done and when healthy is a great team but just missing that third scorer. To me, the rockets will not be going any where this year they are thinking about next year and if that deal goes down and they stay healthy, they will be big time contenders.

Pierce isn't going to houston.
 
BMiller52 said:
Pierce isn't going to houston.
Other then Minn, Utah, and Denver, that really need him bad but have nothing to offer boston, i only see him going to houston. Houston has the best shot. There is no other team that i could think of that needs pierce the most.
 
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BMiller52 said:
That Amico guy doesn't know anything.
What does he not know about. Most of the things he said where reasonable, maybe not about Richardson coming to SAC town, most of the other things could happen.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing Richardson in a Kings uni at all. He could replace Peja's shooting, and if used at SG, can be a post presence as well (assuming Bonzi walks and we want to go young).

I don't get how Houston gets Pierce though. For what?
 
LPKingsFan said:
I wouldn't mind seeing Richardson in a Kings uni at all. He could replace Peja's shooting, and if used at SG, can be a post presence as well (assuming Bonzi walks and we want to go young).

I don't get how Houston gets Pierce though. For what?
Richardson under Adelman's coaching - an intriguing thought. Very interesting!
 
LPKingsFan said:
I wouldn't mind seeing Richardson in a Kings uni at all. He could replace Peja's shooting, and if used at SG, can be a post presence as well (assuming Bonzi walks and we want to go young).

I don't get how Houston gets Pierce though. For what?
I like Richardson but his contract is pretty big isn't it, that is why it makes no since to me.

Pierce going to houston makes alot sense. All year they have struggled to score even with yao and T-mac on the floor together. A prime example of this was last year in playoff series against the mavs, that showed how badly they need another third or second opition at the 3 or 2. To go along with his rebounding and passing skills i could see pierce working out in houston.
 
DaMan said:
I like Richardson but his contract is pretty big isn't it, that is why it makes no since to me.

Pierce going to houston makes alot sense. All year they have struggled to score even with yao and T-mac on the floor together. A prime example of this was last year in playoff series against the mavs, that showed how badly they need another third or second opition at the 3 or 2. To go along with his rebounding and passing skills i could see pierce working out in houston.
It makes a lot of sense for Houston, sure. But Boston??
 
LPKingsFan said:
It makes a lot of sense for Houston, sure. But Boston??
Houston has alot of exp contracts to offer boston and houston would have to offer it's first round draft pick and make it unprotected for boston to do this deal. In my opinion rockets giving up the draft pick when they do have a bad record is a good idea because this is really a weak draft and houston is a win now then rather later kind of team so pierce is worth the draft pick. Since boston is rebuilding getting a top draft pick to go along with yours is really good for your future and plus the exp would really put the icing on the cake. So i really see the rockets and the boston doing a trade.
 
I can't help thinking that the only reason Mike Bibby hasnt had a look of total frustration this year is because deep in his heart he knows he's going to be traded. With the play around him, I can see no other reason he could look so normal.

He may be about even now, but if Garcia got minutes all season and completed his first season in the NBA, is there any way he wouldn't be at least as good as Kevin Martin is now in his second year? Sorry, but it's not contest IMO and time to get one or the other, because rotating them from scrub to 2 guard is fu$$king them up. Please trade Martin and Kenny Thomas for somebody. Martin's shot is never going to get less ugly. Never. IMO Garcia's shot woes are an aberration, at least it is fundamentally sound. Keep him.

Trade Adelman for Jerry Sloan. Sloan is used to coaching inferior talent like the Kings and turning them into #7 or #8 seeds.
 
I have to admit upfront that I haven't read the complete thread, so versions of this trade may already exist. If so, my apologies. It's ID# 2814956 on RealGM.com, so I know it could work, cap-wise. Whether these are the exact pieces or not, who knows? But it would definitely give the Kings a different, and perhaps improved, look.

Essentially, the Kings get Pierce, a couple of guys who can help the interior defense (and move Brad to PF, which may be his natural position), and a promising young point guard.

The Celtics get Bibby, Miles and cap filler. Why would they do it? They're going nowhere as currently constructed and Pierce is making noises about wanting out.

The Blazers, who suck already, get rid of some lousy contracts, a free look at Peja and potentially additional cap space, a decent big guy, and better character.
 
Well this gets KG to Sacramento... too many players I think though. Darn KG's huge salary.

Minnesota Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Trenton Hassell

6-5 SG from Austin Peay

8.5 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 32.3 minutes

Kevin Garnett

6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS)

21.9 ppg, 11.1 rpg, 4.9 apg in 39.5 minutes

Wally Szczerbiak

6-7 SF from Miami-OH

20.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 38.3 minutes

Incoming
2006 first round pick(sacramento)
2008 first round pick(sacramento)

Corliss Williamson

6-7 SF from Arkansas

4.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 11.3 minutes

Shareef Abdur-Rahim

6-9 PF from California

16.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.2 apg in 35.4 minutes

Francisco Garcia

6-7 SF from Louisville

4.5 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 16.6 minutes

Peja Stojakovic

6-10 SF from Yugoslavia

16.6 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.0 minutes

Brad Miller

7-0 C from Purdue

14.5 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 5.3 apg in 36.6 minutes

Kelvin Cato

6-11 C from Iowa State

3.6 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.1 apg in 13.0 minutes

Change in team outlook: +9.9 ppg, +8.3 rpg, and +3.0 apg.
Sacramento Trade Breakdown

Outgoing
2006 sacramento first round pick
2008 sacramento first round pick

Corliss Williamson

6-7 SF from Arkansas

4.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 11.3 minutes

Shareef Abdur-Rahim

6-9 PF from California

16.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.2 apg in 35.4 minutes

Francisco Garcia

6-7 SF from Louisville

4.5 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 16.6 minutes

Peja Stojakovic

6-10 SF from Yugoslavia

16.6 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.0 minutes

Brad Miller

7-0 C from Purdue

14.5 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 5.3 apg in 36.6 minutes

Incoming

Kevin Garnett

6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS)

21.9 ppg, 11.1 rpg, 4.9 apg in 39.5 minutes

Wally Szczerbiak

6-7 SF from Miami-OH

20.1 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 38.3 minutes

Change in team outlook: -14.8 ppg, -7.5 rpg, and -4.9 apg.


Orlando Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Kelvin Cato

6-11 C from Iowa State

3.6 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.1 apg in 13.0 minutes

Incoming

Trenton Hassell

6-5 SG from Austin Peay

8.5 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 32.3 minutes

Change in team outlook: +4.9 ppg, -0.8 rpg, and +1.9 apg.

Successful ScenarioDue to Minnesota, Sacramento, and Orlando being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Minnesota, Sacramento, and Orlando had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Trade IDEvery trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario. The Trade ID for this scenario is 2815841.

Minnesota rebuilds, but they wouldn't suck for a long time either. They can start Miller/Griffin as their front line which gives them a lot of outside shooting and Griffin's shotblocking covers some weaknesses. They let Peja get his surgery and they extend his contract in the offseason. They get plenty of picks+garcia. They clear salary(cato, williamson) and get out of bad contracts. In another year they could be an actual good team again because they could shop SAR's small contract and Williamson's expirer. They'd also get a good draft pick and the sacramento picks. Not bad IMO for minny.

Orlando gets rid of the injured Cato and gets a defensive specialist that's still young at the position they need it-SG. If they get something back for francis then in another year, they're going to be a good team.

We get KG and Wally. Our lineup after this is:

Bibby
Bonzi
Wally
KG
Skinner

The first 4 is enough offense and KG, who is naturally unselfish, could thrive in a team like this. If adelman commits to playing sampson as the backup C(which I think he would have to) or we trade Kenny for one we'd be fine up front. Bibby+Wally can hit the long bombs and bonzi is a good ISO option. The offense can run through KG because he has the same skill set as basically webber does. We get MUCH better on the glass and defensively because we have 2 shotblockers in the starting lineup who can both grab boards. This covers up for bibby's weakness and teams won't want to exploit his flat footed defense as much because KG and Brian would send that garbage all the way back to new york. We don't get a new backup PG, but maybe adelman would have the sense to play Price? Kevin Martin can slide inbetween the 2 and the 3, maybe we could get rid of kenny for a tweener between the 3 and 4? I don't know but this makes our team a lot better.

Now people, forget the fact it's so big and tell me what you think?
 
Boston Trade:
Pierce
Lafreanz

Boston Receive:
Bibby
Nene
Kt

Sacto Trade:
Bibby
Peja
Miller

Sacto Receives
Watson
Pierce
Magloire
Gadz
Gaines

Denver Trades:
Nene
Watson

Denver Receives
Peja

Milwuake Trades:
Magloire
Gadz
Gaines

Milwuake Receives:
Miller
Williamson


New Lineup

Watson/Price
Bonzi/Martin
Pierce/Cicso
SAR/Skinner
Magloire/Gadzuric
 
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