Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)
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Wasn't that the deal mentioned last year? Or close to it?
In any case I don't think Geoff does it, and I can see absolutely no reason why the Lakers do it as Peja is completely unfit to run the triangle. They supposedly won't give up Odom to get Artest, let alone Peja and a bad contract for a midget PF.
This is Chad Ford we are talking about BTW. He makes these things up in he shower and attributes his source to his rubber duckie.
In any case I don't think Geoff does it, and I can see absolutely no reason why the Lakers do it as Peja is completely unfit to run the triangle. They supposedly won't give up Odom to get Artest, let alone Peja and a bad contract for a midget PF.
This is Chad Ford we are talking about BTW. He makes these things up in he shower and attributes his source to his rubber duckie.
Allright...I found it in his latest chat. Pretty meaningless, as I think he was only giving an example, not saying this was rumored or anything. I posted the link, but you won't be able to access it unless you are an Insider member.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=10351
Majeed (San Diego, CA): Are the Lakers still in the Artest sweepstakes? Why don't they just give up Odom for Artest and change to make it work salary wise?
Chad Ford: Wanted to talk about Odom for a second because I'm not sure I believe all of this talk that Odom is untouchable. It's easy to say that when you're sure that the Pacers don't want him in an Artest swap (they like him but don't want to swallow his salary). I think there are other scenarios out there that could compel the Lakers to trade him ... like a possible Odom for Peja Stojakovic and Kenny Thomas swap. The Lakers need multiple pieces but are hamstrung in what they can do which I think opens the door to Odom trade. Personally, and this is just me talking, I wouldn't trade him. I think he's one of the more underrated players in the league -- an unselfish player who can do just about everything on the floor and is willing to. But I know that not everyone on the Lakers sees it that way.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=10351
Majeed (San Diego, CA): Are the Lakers still in the Artest sweepstakes? Why don't they just give up Odom for Artest and change to make it work salary wise?
Chad Ford: Wanted to talk about Odom for a second because I'm not sure I believe all of this talk that Odom is untouchable. It's easy to say that when you're sure that the Pacers don't want him in an Artest swap (they like him but don't want to swallow his salary). I think there are other scenarios out there that could compel the Lakers to trade him ... like a possible Odom for Peja Stojakovic and Kenny Thomas swap. The Lakers need multiple pieces but are hamstrung in what they can do which I think opens the door to Odom trade. Personally, and this is just me talking, I wouldn't trade him. I think he's one of the more underrated players in the league -- an unselfish player who can do just about everything on the floor and is willing to. But I know that not everyone on the Lakers sees it that way.
Haha! And here I thought the planet was fresh out of people scared of Peja Stojakovic. Probably gets mugged down at the daycare center.
Might force us to make a seconday trade though for a true superstar to stop him with -- somebody truly elite like Trenton Hassel.
Or Brevin Knight. Maybe my grandmother (may she rest in peace)?
Might force us to make a seconday trade though for a true superstar to stop him with -- somebody truly elite like Trenton Hassel.
Or Brevin Knight. Maybe my grandmother (may she rest in peace)?
(New and Improved)
Peja to Denver for Watson and Nene.
Why: Kings get Watson, a very promising defensive-minded point guard who has vastly improved his shooting, along with Nene, very athletic, young big man who can shot block and has a developing game. Nuggets get the shooter they covet to round out their starting five.
Bibby to Cleveland for Hughes and Verejao.
Why: Kings get athletic, still-young and defensive-minded Hughes and active, energetic Verejao, who could be a Pollard type off the bench. Cleveland needs a good point guard who can shoot to take pressure off of LeBron. The price is steep for Cleveland, but Bibby could be a great second banana for LeBron.
Miller to Chicago for Ben Gordon and Luol Deng.
Why: Chicago hasn't been playing anyone over 6'9", and need size badly. Miller could also be a stabilizing veteran presence with all the young 'uns. Kings get instant offense off the bench in Gordon, and hustle with Luol Deng. Kings lose their centerpiece center for two bench players, albeit bench players with loads of potential.
Bonzi and Garcia to Indiana for Ron Artest.
Why: If the rumors are true, Indiana wants and expiring deal and a good young player in exchange for Ron Ron. O'Neal already expressed enthusiasm about Bonzi, and in Garcia they get a promising gunner. Kings get... well, you know what the Kings get.
New Kings:
Starters:
PG: Watson
SG: Hughes
SF: Artest
PF: Abdur-Rahim
C: Nene
Bench:
PG: Hart/Price
SG: Gordon/Martin
SF: Deng/Martin/Corliss
PF: Verejao/Skinner/KT
C: Verejao/Skinner
I'm not adverse to moving Abdur-Rahim either, but there don't seem to be many teams coveting power forwards that have good trade bait. The Kings' starting five is suddenly one of the best defensive lineups in the league with promising youngsters off the bench. Offense might be a challenge, and there's very little outside shooting here, but Gordon and Deng off the bench could provide some scoring punch.
PLEASE, SOMETHING, ANYTHING!
Peja to Denver for Watson and Nene.
Why: Kings get Watson, a very promising defensive-minded point guard who has vastly improved his shooting, along with Nene, very athletic, young big man who can shot block and has a developing game. Nuggets get the shooter they covet to round out their starting five.
Bibby to Cleveland for Hughes and Verejao.
Why: Kings get athletic, still-young and defensive-minded Hughes and active, energetic Verejao, who could be a Pollard type off the bench. Cleveland needs a good point guard who can shoot to take pressure off of LeBron. The price is steep for Cleveland, but Bibby could be a great second banana for LeBron.
Miller to Chicago for Ben Gordon and Luol Deng.
Why: Chicago hasn't been playing anyone over 6'9", and need size badly. Miller could also be a stabilizing veteran presence with all the young 'uns. Kings get instant offense off the bench in Gordon, and hustle with Luol Deng. Kings lose their centerpiece center for two bench players, albeit bench players with loads of potential.
Bonzi and Garcia to Indiana for Ron Artest.
Why: If the rumors are true, Indiana wants and expiring deal and a good young player in exchange for Ron Ron. O'Neal already expressed enthusiasm about Bonzi, and in Garcia they get a promising gunner. Kings get... well, you know what the Kings get.
New Kings:
Starters:
PG: Watson
SG: Hughes
SF: Artest
PF: Abdur-Rahim
C: Nene
Bench:
PG: Hart/Price
SG: Gordon/Martin
SF: Deng/Martin/Corliss
PF: Verejao/Skinner/KT
C: Verejao/Skinner
I'm not adverse to moving Abdur-Rahim either, but there don't seem to be many teams coveting power forwards that have good trade bait. The Kings' starting five is suddenly one of the best defensive lineups in the league with promising youngsters off the bench. Offense might be a challenge, and there's very little outside shooting here, but Gordon and Deng off the bench could provide some scoring punch.
PLEASE, SOMETHING, ANYTHING!
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I just read on Yahoo sports that J.R. Smith is in New Orlean's doghouse.
SO.
Peja Stojakovic...17.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.2 apg
Fransisco Garcia...4.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.4 apg
For
Desmond Mason...10.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.0 apg
J.R. Smith...10.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.7 apg
Change in Team Outlook: -0.9 ppg, -0.4 rpg, -0.9 apg
Why we do it: We bring in an extremly young and exciting player filled with potential in Smith...Mason adds much needed slashing/athleticism to our team. We may not benefit right away, but once Smith matures I think this would definatly favor us.
PG: Bibby/Hart/Price
SG: Smith/Martin/Mason
SF: Wells/Mason/Corliss
PF: SAR/Thomas/Corliss
C: Miller/Skinner/Sampson
Why they do it: Dump Smith who is causing problems, and also bring in a top-notch second-fiddle type player in Peja, who I think would improve tremendously playing next to Chris Paul...Imagine all the dishouts to a wide open Peja?
SO.
Peja Stojakovic...17.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.2 apg
Fransisco Garcia...4.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.4 apg
For
Desmond Mason...10.1 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 1.0 apg
J.R. Smith...10.5 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.7 apg
Change in Team Outlook: -0.9 ppg, -0.4 rpg, -0.9 apg
Why we do it: We bring in an extremly young and exciting player filled with potential in Smith...Mason adds much needed slashing/athleticism to our team. We may not benefit right away, but once Smith matures I think this would definatly favor us.
PG: Bibby/Hart/Price
SG: Smith/Martin/Mason
SF: Wells/Mason/Corliss
PF: SAR/Thomas/Corliss
C: Miller/Skinner/Sampson
Why they do it: Dump Smith who is causing problems, and also bring in a top-notch second-fiddle type player in Peja, who I think would improve tremendously playing next to Chris Paul...Imagine all the dishouts to a wide open Peja?
