Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)
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Kenny!
Well peja and bonzi are both out that leaves them
bibby's contract doesn't matchup
i don't think brad's does
i don't think management wants to give up on kevin or cisco
surprisingly reef and ron work on the trade checker if you add hart, but then we have no pf...
Maybe petrie has some deals in the works to make us better defensively while keeping the core 3?(peja got kicked out by bonzi, so it's bonzi, bibby, and brad now)
Or maybe he wants rick to play skinner at the 4???
I don't know, come on petrie make some moves!
interesting comment off of Insidehoops' commentary section:
NBA Rumors Commentary
Jalen Rose
Has now been mentioned about 459,000 times on this page InsideHoops.com loves Jalen Rose, but the teams that want him right now want his contract, not his game. Plenty of salary cap space can be had once that thing expires... I'd like to see Ron Artest and Kevin Garnett together. As well as Wally Sczcerbiak has played this season (after a slow start), Artest makes that team better. And how would anyone score on Artest and KG? ... Kobe and Artest would also be terrific together. It would certainly make me watch a lot more Lakers games... The Rockets have more health problems than your local hospital. It's a shame, because lately they looked terrific while Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady were healthy and playing. Yao's injury seems to have taken the life out of them once again... Shaq and Kobe aren't fans of each other? Who knew? This is shocking... You can't stop Robert Whaley, you can only hope to contain him... The Kings have no current trade plan for Peja Stojakovic, but that doesn't mean they're keeping him. As soon as a great offer comes, he's gone... Zydrunas Ilgauskas was 6'10" at the age of four... OK, not really... Merry Christmas, happy Hannukah and a nice holiday... We're not on vacation, though. This page was updated late Saturday and today but Monday it will be back to the usual early morning update time of before 8 A.M. ET... Talk to you tomorrow.
Well peja and bonzi are both out that leaves them
bibby's contract doesn't matchup
i don't think brad's does
i don't think management wants to give up on kevin or cisco
surprisingly reef and ron work on the trade checker if you add hart, but then we have no pf...
Maybe petrie has some deals in the works to make us better defensively while keeping the core 3?(peja got kicked out by bonzi, so it's bonzi, bibby, and brad now)
Or maybe he wants rick to play skinner at the 4???
I don't know, come on petrie make some moves!
interesting comment off of Insidehoops' commentary section:
NBA Rumors Commentary
Jalen Rose
You may want to update that pic, it looks like last season's
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm
I doubt that we get him, why would he want to go to one losing team to any other (And tor looks like a brighter place then sac town right now because of all that young and improving talent they got there). its not like we could throw all the money at him or any thing. And he does come here i think he would have the best chance of becoming the next shareef, The man with a lot of talent but wasted on losing teams. And in a story in in Cbs.sportline, somebody said that would happened if he stayed in tor.
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Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.5 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
4.2 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.1 minutes
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
6-9 PF from California
16.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3.3 apg in 35.3 minutes
Incoming
Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
24.3 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 3.9 apg in 36.4 minutes
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
3.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 25.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: -9.6 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and -1.3 apg.
New Jersey Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
24.3 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 3.9 apg in 36.4 minutes
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
3.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 25.1 minutes
Incoming
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.5 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
4.2 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.1 minutes
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
6-9 PF from California
16.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3.3 apg in 35.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: +9.6 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +1.3 apg.
Successful Scenario
Would NJ do this (of course now both Peja and SAR are hurt, so probably not). Could be interesting with the Serb pairing with Kristic, and there's rumors Carter wants out anyway. Collins is a better interior defender than the numbers show, and would allow Miller to shift to the PF. He's also started at PF next to Kristic, so it wouldn't really matter.
New lineups:
Collins/Skinner
Miller/Thomas
Carter/Garcia
Wells/Martin
Bibby/Hart
Kristic/Jackson
SAR/Robinson
Peja/Corliss
Jefferson/?
Kidd/McInnis
Outgoing
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.5 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
4.2 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.1 minutes
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
6-9 PF from California
16.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3.3 apg in 35.3 minutes
Incoming
Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
24.3 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 3.9 apg in 36.4 minutes
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
3.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 25.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: -9.6 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and -1.3 apg.
New Jersey Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
24.3 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 3.9 apg in 36.4 minutes
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
3.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 25.1 minutes
Incoming
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.5 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
4.2 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.1 minutes
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
6-9 PF from California
16.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3.3 apg in 35.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: +9.6 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +1.3 apg.
Successful Scenario
Would NJ do this (of course now both Peja and SAR are hurt, so probably not). Could be interesting with the Serb pairing with Kristic, and there's rumors Carter wants out anyway. Collins is a better interior defender than the numbers show, and would allow Miller to shift to the PF. He's also started at PF next to Kristic, so it wouldn't really matter.
New lineups:
Collins/Skinner
Miller/Thomas
Carter/Garcia
Wells/Martin
Bibby/Hart
Kristic/Jackson
SAR/Robinson
Peja/Corliss
Jefferson/?
Kidd/McInnis
Not bad. Try this one on though. A potential superstar in Melo to replace Peja and a significant improvement in your backup PG.
Outgoing Peja Stojakovic 6-10 SF Yugoslavia
17.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.5 minutes
Jason Hart 6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.3 minutes
Incoming
Earl Watson 6-1 PG from UCLA 7.5 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.9 apg in 19.0 minutes
Carmelo Anthony 6-8 SF from Syracuse 23.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 35.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: +11.1 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and +2.4 apg.
Indiana Trade BreakdownOutgoing
Ron Artest 6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Anthony Johnson 6-3 PG from Charleston
5.2 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 19.5 minutes
Incoming
Peja Stojakovic 6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.5 minutes
Jason Hart 6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -4.6 ppg, -0.9 rpg, and -1.7 apg.
Denver Trade Breakdown
Outgoing Earl Watson 6-1 PG from UCLA
7.5 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.9 apg in 19.0 minutes
Carmelo Anthony 6-8 SF from Syracuse
23.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 35.1 minutes
Incoming
Ron Artest 6-7 SF from St. John's 19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Anthony Johnson 6-3 PG from Charleston
5.2 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 19.5 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.5 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and -0.7 apg.
Successful ScenarioDue to Sacramento, Indiana, and Denver being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento, Indiana, and Denver had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing Peja Stojakovic 6-10 SF Yugoslavia
17.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.5 minutes
Jason Hart 6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.3 minutes
Incoming
Earl Watson 6-1 PG from UCLA 7.5 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.9 apg in 19.0 minutes
Carmelo Anthony 6-8 SF from Syracuse 23.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 35.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: +11.1 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and +2.4 apg.
Indiana Trade BreakdownOutgoing
Ron Artest 6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Anthony Johnson 6-3 PG from Charleston
5.2 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 19.5 minutes
Incoming
Peja Stojakovic 6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.5 minutes
Jason Hart 6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.0 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -4.6 ppg, -0.9 rpg, and -1.7 apg.
Denver Trade Breakdown
Outgoing Earl Watson 6-1 PG from UCLA
7.5 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.9 apg in 19.0 minutes
Carmelo Anthony 6-8 SF from Syracuse
23.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 3.0 apg in 35.1 minutes
Incoming
Ron Artest 6-7 SF from St. John's 19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Anthony Johnson 6-3 PG from Charleston
5.2 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 3.0 apg in 19.5 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.5 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and -0.7 apg.
Successful ScenarioDue to Sacramento, Indiana, and Denver being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento, Indiana, and Denver had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
1. Denver wouldn't give up Melo, especially only for Artest.
2. We say we need a superstar. Well, most superstars and their teams are getting along just fine. In order to get one we need to find a superstar, or potential one, we need to find one in less-than ideal circumstances, or else they're usually untouchable.
It's not that great of a deal for either team, I'll admit, I was just looking around for potential superstar deals. Carter is one of the most talented players in the league, but he only lacks the competitve drive all the time. When he puts his mind to it, he is one. Maybe he can be that here. I don't know. What else can we do?
2. We say we need a superstar. Well, most superstars and their teams are getting along just fine. In order to get one we need to find a superstar, or potential one, we need to find one in less-than ideal circumstances, or else they're usually untouchable.
It's not that great of a deal for either team, I'll admit, I was just looking around for potential superstar deals. Carter is one of the most talented players in the league, but he only lacks the competitve drive all the time. When he puts his mind to it, he is one. Maybe he can be that here. I don't know. What else can we do?
Man u missing the whole point. why in the world would bosh come here when he is on already on a losing team why would he want to come to another one its not like we could offer him more money then tor or any other team. And i am not talking about talent wise of course i would want the guy on my team., but i am just saying bosh is already on a losing team, and would come to this team which is currently a losing team, which would put him on the path to be the next shareef. The man with a lot of talent but played for losing team thats all am saying, i didn't say i didn't what the guy or any thing.
Just because the Kings aren't very good right now doesn't mean they're going to be next season or the following. Who knows what could happen, I suspect something will sooner or later to turn the team around.
Besides, Bosh doesn't make the decisions about where he goes unless he's a unrestricted free-agent or has a player option. Which he does not until 2007.
Besides, Bosh doesn't make the decisions about where he goes unless he's a unrestricted free-agent or has a player option. Which he does not until 2007.