Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)
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there seems to be lots of talk about artest going to denver...since i have my doubts of them having anything the pacers really want, how would u guys feel about..
peja and garcia
for
nene, lenard and anthony johnson..
its not something im personally fond of...just going on the assumption bird still might have some interest in peja...
thoughts?
peja and garcia
for
nene, lenard and anthony johnson..
its not something im personally fond of...just going on the assumption bird still might have some interest in peja...
thoughts?
Found off realgm:
here's an idea...
Atlanta Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Al Harrington
6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
18.4 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes
Tyronn Lue
6-0 PG from Nebraska
9.6 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 23.7 minutes
Incoming
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.3 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 12.9 minutes
Change in team outlook: -5.3 ppg, -3.5 rpg, and -2.5 apg.
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Fred Jones
6-2 SG from Oregon
6.7 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 24.7 minutes
Incoming
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 37.4 minutes
Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
4.6 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: -4.3 ppg, -0.9 rpg, and -1.2 apg.
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 37.4 minutes
Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.3 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 12.9 minutes
Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
4.6 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.7 minutes
Incoming
Al Harrington
6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
18.4 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes
Tyronn Lue
6-0 PG from Nebraska
9.6 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 23.7 minutes
Fred Jones
6-2 SG from Oregon
6.7 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 24.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: +9.6 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +3.7 apg.
Successful Scenario
I dig that. Would dig it even more if Harrington went to Pacers, then Artest to Sac, and Peja to Atlanta. But I like it.
Tyronn Lue is underrated, IMO.
here's an idea...
Atlanta Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Al Harrington
6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
18.4 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes
Tyronn Lue
6-0 PG from Nebraska
9.6 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 23.7 minutes
Incoming
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.3 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 12.9 minutes
Change in team outlook: -5.3 ppg, -3.5 rpg, and -2.5 apg.
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Fred Jones
6-2 SG from Oregon
6.7 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 24.7 minutes
Incoming
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 37.4 minutes
Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
4.6 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: -4.3 ppg, -0.9 rpg, and -1.2 apg.
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 37.4 minutes
Jason Hart
6-3 PG from Syracuse
3.3 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.2 apg in 12.9 minutes
Kevin Martin
6-7 SG from Western Carolina
4.6 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 13.7 minutes
Incoming
Al Harrington
6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
18.4 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes
Tyronn Lue
6-0 PG from Nebraska
9.6 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 23.7 minutes
Fred Jones
6-2 SG from Oregon
6.7 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 24.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: +9.6 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +3.7 apg.
Successful Scenario
I dig that. Would dig it even more if Harrington went to Pacers, then Artest to Sac, and Peja to Atlanta. But I like it.
Tyronn Lue is underrated, IMO.
Here comes a rumor via http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nba/article/0,2777,DRMN_23922_4326071,00.html
I can't imagine what the possible scenario will be, and what we will get. And I think THAT's just a RUMOR. But I love Earl Watson. He could be perfect for the backup PG.
Mr. Petrie. Please do SOMETHING rather than nothing.
My patience is wearing down.
I can't imagine what the possible scenario will be, and what we will get. And I think THAT's just a RUMOR. But I love Earl Watson. He could be perfect for the backup PG.
Mr. Petrie. Please do SOMETHING rather than nothing.
My patience is wearing down.
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HaraWish said:
Here comes a rumor via http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nba/article/0,2777,DRMN_23922_4326071,00.html
I can't imagine what the possible scenario will be. And I think THAT's just romor. But I love Earl Watson. He could be the perfect for the backup PG.
Mr. Petrie. Please do SOMETHING rather than nothing.
My patience is wearing down.
I can't imagine what the possible scenario will be. And I think THAT's just romor. But I love Earl Watson. He could be the perfect for the backup PG.
Mr. Petrie. Please do SOMETHING rather than nothing.
My patience is wearing down.
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HaraWish said:
Here comes a rumor via http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nba/article/0,2777,DRMN_23922_4326071,00.html
I can't imagine what the possible scenario will be, and what we will get. And I think THAT's just a RUMOR. But I love Earl Watson. He could be perfect for the backup PG.
Mr. Petrie. Please do SOMETHING rather than nothing.
My patience is wearing down.
I can't imagine what the possible scenario will be, and what we will get. And I think THAT's just a RUMOR. But I love Earl Watson. He could be perfect for the backup PG.
Mr. Petrie. Please do SOMETHING rather than nothing.
My patience is wearing down.
Well, that and the longer he waits it makes it that much harder to come back from a terrible record.
Plus I mean, everything is sooo obvious. #1 Adelmans gone. I don't even know why they are dragging this out any longer. After this summer its pretty clear whats up in regards to that whole situation.
Plus I mean, everything is sooo obvious. #1 Adelmans gone. I don't even know why they are dragging this out any longer. After this summer its pretty clear whats up in regards to that whole situation.
Here'e the score on the season:
today we are 10-15 .400
to reach 50 wins we would have to go 40-17 .702 over the remaining 57 games.
That seems...unlikely.
We are just about out of time now. We are now hitting the last good home stretch we have this season really -- 6 of 7 at home AGAIN. (by whihc point we will be horribly overbalanced with home games over road games). If we do anything but clean up now -- and the games aren't all easy -- we could find ourselves 13-19, 12-20, or something godawful like that, and playing the large majority of our games on the road for the rest of the year. And then recover for the playoffs becomes next to impossible without some sort of MAJOR move, coaching or players.
I too do not know what Petrie is waiting for. One of the reasons I have grown increasingly restless with him. The deadly patience he had while we were at the top begins to look like something much closer to stubborn inaction in the face of our whole season going down the drain. If it does, the next thread question we should have is: is Petrie the man for the job of rebuilding the Kings? Or was Portland right?
today we are 10-15 .400
to reach 50 wins we would have to go 40-17 .702 over the remaining 57 games.
That seems...unlikely.
We are just about out of time now. We are now hitting the last good home stretch we have this season really -- 6 of 7 at home AGAIN. (by whihc point we will be horribly overbalanced with home games over road games). If we do anything but clean up now -- and the games aren't all easy -- we could find ourselves 13-19, 12-20, or something godawful like that, and playing the large majority of our games on the road for the rest of the year. And then recover for the playoffs becomes next to impossible without some sort of MAJOR move, coaching or players.
I too do not know what Petrie is waiting for. One of the reasons I have grown increasingly restless with him. The deadly patience he had while we were at the top begins to look like something much closer to stubborn inaction in the face of our whole season going down the drain. If it does, the next thread question we should have is: is Petrie the man for the job of rebuilding the Kings? Or was Portland right?
It appears to me that the logjam on trades begins and ends with Indianappolis and Ron Artest...he's the big brass ring most GM's in the league are eyeing right now. And if we do trade Peja it has to be successful for the good of the franchise. And by success it can't be for an Artest who will cause problems but for an Artest that will be motivated, and that means a re-nogotiation of his contract (as of today's news from his camp) so I really don't think we'll go that route. I think we'll see a rush of trades just beating the deadline and, as Brick alluded to, it's about too late for us this year anyway so you may as well plan for next year and set yourself up for then.
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I still say we need a big body at center. A guy who doesn't want or need to score to be effective.
Brad Miller is best when he's touching the ball and getting some open looks. But it atrocious on all aspects of defense.
I think a guy like Joel Przybilla could be had for the right offer. He isn't a "sexy" pick, but he gets the job done. He doesn't require the ball and he's imposing at 7'1" and strong. He'll also get us some respectability in the paint.
He is a foul magnet and needs discipline, but I think he'd be a spectacular pick up for the style of basketball this team is geared towards.
While Reef is servicable on defense ... we need someone to back him up and be imposing. Any other suggestions other than Przy?
Brad Miller is best when he's touching the ball and getting some open looks. But it atrocious on all aspects of defense.
I think a guy like Joel Przybilla could be had for the right offer. He isn't a "sexy" pick, but he gets the job done. He doesn't require the ball and he's imposing at 7'1" and strong. He'll also get us some respectability in the paint.
He is a foul magnet and needs discipline, but I think he'd be a spectacular pick up for the style of basketball this team is geared towards.
While Reef is servicable on defense ... we need someone to back him up and be imposing. Any other suggestions other than Przy?
Kirilenko and Odom seem to be on the verge of changing teams.
Yes, please may we have one. Our team relies on a 6' point guard to drain guarded 25 footers. He is the "go to guy". Problem. I don't believe his style can change at this point, and I've seen enough of the pick and roll with 3 guys standing. Bibby or Miller launching has become dreary.
Bibby helped the Kings a great deal at one time. I think he is hampering them now purely because he is over-featured. He could help someone else more, so let's trade him. IMO he is our only attractive trade bait, still.
Please.
P.S. Milwaukee and Memphis have become very fun teams to watch. i suppose this is how I discovered the Kings in the first place. I can only hope they become as entertaining as those two squads.
Yes, please may we have one. Our team relies on a 6' point guard to drain guarded 25 footers. He is the "go to guy". Problem. I don't believe his style can change at this point, and I've seen enough of the pick and roll with 3 guys standing. Bibby or Miller launching has become dreary.
Bibby helped the Kings a great deal at one time. I think he is hampering them now purely because he is over-featured. He could help someone else more, so let's trade him. IMO he is our only attractive trade bait, still.
Please.
P.S. Milwaukee and Memphis have become very fun teams to watch. i suppose this is how I discovered the Kings in the first place. I can only hope they become as entertaining as those two squads.
