Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)

Still not sure were to go here :)

Either way I think Peja has to be traded or a sign and trade in the off season. If he walks I will be most upset. I understand the Webb trade, although at this point it looks like we got the shaft, things have to play out. Lets see if Petrie can shop the parts he got for Webb and I assume he got them to do just that. At the time the Webb trade looked great especially for his injury and the type of surgery he had.

As VF said Pacersdigest.com is a great forum. Especially to gage what the Pacer fans are thinking. I have been following things there for a while (pacers my home state and my secret favorite team.) I have kept an open mind during this. The question is do the Maloofs/Petrie sell themselves out for a guys that may win games but may destroy a team (aka eagles). I have a problem with a guy that thinks he is bigger then the NBA.

Now I contradicted my earlier posts but I am all over on this issue. It's 9:32 and I will change my mind to pro artest at 10:55
 
BigWaxer said:
Now I contradicted my earlier posts but I am all over on this issue. It's 9:32 and I will change my mind to pro artest at 10:55
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Note to self: Must open jar of VF21 Poof Dust by 10:54...
 
seriously I don't know wth to think. I think okay thats it do it and then flashes of TO and other past trade failures come to mind. Its nutty and to think a GM has to do this and get it right everytime. I want his pay check but I don't want Petries job.
 
BigWaxer said:
Still not sure were to go here :)

Either way I think Peja has to be traded or a sign and trade in the off season. If he walks I will be most upset. I understand the Webb trade, although at this point it looks like we got the shaft, things have to play out. Lets see if Petrie can shop the parts he got for Webb and I assume he got them to do just that. At the time the Webb trade looked great especially for his injury and the type of surgery he had.

As VF said Pacersdigest.com is a great forum. Especially to gage what the Pacer fans are thinking. I have been following things there for a while (pacers my home state and my secret favorite team.) I have kept an open mind during this. The question is do the Maloofs/Petrie sell themselves out for a guys that may win games but may destroy a team (aka eagles). I have a problem with a guy that thinks he is bigger then the NBA.

Now I contradicted my earlier posts but I am all over on this issue. It's 9:32 and I will change my mind to pro artest at 10:55
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You're right, Pacers Digest sounds like a good place to gauge what the Pacers FANS think of Artest and Peja. However, it doesn't tell you what Walsh and Bird think of Artest and what he's worth. It sounds like alot of Pacer fans don't think too much of Peja, yet maybe Bird thinks he can be the one to develop Peja into a more well-rounded player.
 
KingKong said:
Don't have audio @ the ol' office, AleksandarN. Can you give us a general synopsis of what it's about?
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Here are some Reggie quotes:

Ron must be getting some BAAAAAAAAAAAAD advice from somewhere

this is similar to the T.O. situation

you're not getting back a player with equal value as ron, you DON'T WANT a player with the same value as ron
 
i don't see why we need artest, kings need someone who can D, we don't need a scorer, is true that artest play D untill he mentioned the name of Kobe, lebron, arenas. he wants to score more and we've enough player who can score
 
Ooops, this post is hot with 'Hot Potato' Artest. Here's are some air-changing imaginations. :)

IMO, how about making trades with Hawks? What do you think about that?

1. Kings have many F/C. Though they're not playing. :(
2. Hawks have TOO many G/F (Swingman).
3. Kings belongs to the West, Hawks to the East.
4. Currently, both teams are at the bottoms. :(
5. So.... something might happen?
6. Kings can find OG within Hawk's roster - Salim Stoudermire, I wish. but he's a rookie. Probably cannot be traded. sigh. - who will replace for Hart, or can find the back up SG for Wells.
7. Hawks MAY find PG, which is their most wanted position. I mean, Jason Hart. He has not been good with us, but he had a good time with Bobcats last year. Maybe he can control the young, atheletic, probably less sytematic Hawks offense. AND Hawks can add one or two forwards - Brian Sknner? - to their front court.

Hopeful result )
1. Kings will have more bench points, and can let Bibby and Wells rest more.
2. Hawks will have PG and will have more balanced roster. ( one or two backcourt players out, and one or two frontcourt players in.)

ps : I know we need true backup PG (not OG), and F/C who can defense. IMHO, however, even the addition of OG and offensive backup SG would be better than now. With this trade, at least, we can get BENCH POINTS.

ps2: When another OG is on the court, let Garcia carry the ball and lead the offence. I think Garcia's passing is better than his shoot selection. In fact, as a rookie, and not as a PG, his leading is not bad.
 
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anarchis said:
i don't see why we need artest, kings need someone who can D, we don't need a scorer, is true that artest play D untill he mentioned the name of Kobe, lebron, arenas. he wants to score more and we've enough player who can score
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Ron Artest makes Doug Christie look like Mike Bibby defensively.

Outside of Ben Wallace there isn't a better defender in the league. So unless we can pull off a magic trick for Big Ben, there is no one better than Artest.

He'll contine to be a shutdown defender very capable of limiting the top scorers and at the very least he'll make them work for it (tiring them out on both ends of the floor) and he'll get alot of steals (he's currently the league leader).
 
anarchis said:
i don't see why we need artest, kings need someone who can D, we don't need a scorer, is true that artest play D untill he mentioned the name of Kobe, lebron, arenas. he wants to score more and we've enough player who can score
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This is one of the funniest posts I have read.......I was really expecting one of these ;) or :D at the end.
 
HaraWish said:
Ooops, this post is hot with 'Hot Potato' Artest. Here's are some air-changing imaginations. :)

IMO, how about making trades with Hawks? What do you think about that?

1. Kings have many F/C. Though they're not playing. :(
2. Hawks have TOO many G/F (Swingman).
3. Kings belongs to the West, Hawks to the East.
4. Currently, both teams are at the bottoms. :(
5. So.... something might happen?
6. Kings can find OG within Hawk's roster - Salim Stoudermire, I wish. but he's a rookie. Probably cannot be traded. sigh. - who will replace for Hart, or can find the back up SG for Wells.
7. Hawks MAY find PG, which is their most wanted position. I mean, Jason Hart. He has not been good with us, but he had a good time with Bobcats last year. Maybe he can control the young, atheletic, probably less sytematic Hawks offense. AND Hawks can add one or two forwards - Brian Sknner? - to their front court.

Hopeful result )
1. Kings will have more bench points, and can let Bibby and Wells rest more.
2. Hawks will have PG and will have more balanced roster. ( one or two backcourt players out, and one or two frontcourt players in.)

ps : I know we need true backup PG (not OG), and F/C who can defense. IMHO, however, even the addition of OG and offensive backup SG would be better than now. With this trade, at least, we can get BENCH POINTS.

ps2: When another OG is on the court, let Garcia carry the ball and lead the offence. I think Garcia's passing is better than his shoot selection. In fact, as a rookie, and not as a PG, his leading is not bad.
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I think we'd go after one of their swingmen if we ever did a deal with the Hawks. I also like Tyronn Lue quite a bit. Salim is a steal for them, they need all the firepower they can get.

BTW, Artest is someone who can "d". ;)

He is simply a balanced player.
 
HaraWish said:
Ooops, this post is hot with 'Hot Potato' Artest. Here's are some air-changing imaginations. :)

IMO, how about making trades with Hawks? What do you think about that?

1. Kings have many F/C. Though they're not playing. :(
2. Hawks have TOO many G/F (Swingman).
3. Kings belongs to the West, Hawks to the East.
4. Currently, both teams are at the bottoms. :(
5. So.... something might happen?
6. Kings can find OG within Hawk's roster - Salim Stoudermire, I wish. but he's a rookie. Probably cannot be traded. sigh. - who will replace for Hart, or can find the back up SG for Wells.
7. Hawks MAY find PG, which is their most wanted position. I mean, Jason Hart. He has not been good with us, but he had a good time with Bobcats last year. Maybe he can control the young, atheletic, probably less sytematic Hawks offense. AND Hawks can add one or two forwards - Brian Sknner? - to their front court.

Hopeful result )
1. Kings will have more bench points, and can let Bibby and Wells rest more.
2. Hawks will have PG and will have more balanced roster. ( one or two backcourt players out, and one or two frontcourt players in.)

ps : I know we need true backup PG (not OG), and F/C who can defense. IMHO, however, even the addition of OG and offensive backup SG would be better than now. With this trade, at least, we can get BENCH POINTS.

ps2: When another OG is on the court, let Garcia carry the ball and lead the offence. I think Garcia's passing is better than his shoot selection. In fact, as a rookie, and not as a PG, his leading is not bad.
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Wow I really like those suggestions actually. We could use a backup for Bonzi/Mike and they could use a C(we have one that never plays anyways). Another player they have that I really like is Joe Johnson. I would definately trade peja for that guy. Maybe Skinner+Hart+pick for Salim Stoudamire+Josh Childress? I dunno, worth it to throw out some trade offers anyways I guess.

KingKong said:
BMiller52, thanks.
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you're welcome lol.
 
Atkins as back-up?

Atkins Wants Out
Dec 13 - Last Thursday, Chucky Atkins said he hoped he would be one of the moves made on December 15th. On Sunday he reiterated his position and added, "Go ahead and write it," according to the Washington Times. A source told the paper Atkins is frustrated by not knowing his role. The source said he doesn't believe he is getting the courtesy he deserves and will ask the team to "find him a more suitable situation." Atkins' agent, Andy Miller, said he has talked with GM Ernie Grunfeld recently concerning Atkins' future.


(espn insider)




Would atkins make a good back-up? brings another shooter off the bench.
 
I don't want his contract and his knee...

But yeah, I do agree we could use a guy like that.
 
ONEZERO said:
I don't want his contract and his knee...

But yeah, I do agree we could use a guy like that.
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I thought he took like 2 games off and I don't think his knee bothered him this last game.
 
BMiller52 said:
I thought he took like 2 games off and I don't think his knee bothered him this last game.
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That's only 1 game.

That contract was awful even while he was healthy. If there is any doubt at all about his knee, that may be a stay clear situation there.
 
Bricklayer said:
That's only 1 game.

That contract was awful even while he was healthy. If there is any doubt at all about his knee, that may be a stay clear situation there.
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Oh, anyways if we get him I'll be happy even if you guys won't lol. Some other players we could possibly trade for from the wizards are: Antonio Daniels, Jarvis Hayes, Chucky Atkins, and Etan Thomas.

Another player I'd consider going after is Joe Johnson, he's one of my favorite players(atleast he was last year, don't get to see him on tv this year).

Too bad RJ has a BYC on his contract. Since the nets are struggling I was thinking we could maybe do a Peja+KT+Corliss swap for RJ+Mcinnis or something(don't think NJ'ed agree to that, so more would have to be added in obviously).
 
howabout this trade I put together, makes us a lot deeper and hayes looks like he will be a good player:

Sacramento Trade Breakdown Outgoing
Peja Stojakovic 6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.1 minutes
Brian Skinner 6-9 PF from Baylor
2.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.9 minutes
Kenny Thomas 6-7 PF from New Mexico
6.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 17.6 minutes
Incoming
2006 first round pick
Jarvis Hayes
6-8 SF from Georgia
9.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 25.6 minutes
Chucky Atkins 5-11 PG from South Florida
6.0 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.6 apg in 18.3 minutes
Antonio Daniels 6-4 PG from Bowling Green
4.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 2.7 apg in 23.9 minutes
Etan Thomas 6-10 PF from Syracuse
4.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 15.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -1.4 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and +2.8 apg.
Washington Trade BreakdownOutgoing
2006 first round pick
Jarvis Hayes
6-8 SF from Georgia
9.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 25.6 minutes
Chucky Atkins
5-11 PG from South Florida
6.0 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.6 apg in 18.3 minutes
Antonio Daniels 6-4 PG from Bowling Green
4.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 2.7 apg in 23.9 minutes
Etan Thomas 6-10 PF from Syracuse
4.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 15.3 minutes
Incoming
Peja Stojakovic 6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
17.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.1 minutes
Brian Skinner 6-9 PF from Baylor
2.8 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.9 minutes
Kenny Thomas 6-7 PF from New Mexico
6.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 17.6 minutesChange in team outlook: +1.4 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and -2.8 apg.

Successful ScenarioDue to Sacramento and Washington being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento and Washington had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade IDEvery trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario. The Trade ID for this scenario is 2727724.


We get a lot deeper and get a pick. Washington is still kind of deep, gets peja to pair with antawn jamison and gilbert arenas as probably one of the best groups of 3 points shooters in the league.
 
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BMiller52 said:
Whatabout their first round pick? THat'll likely be a lottery pick.
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Not after we give them Peja to add to Arenas, Jamison and Butler it won't. This is still the East we are talking about.

A trade like that is in the Webber trade vein. Let's trade a star for "depth". That rarely works out. I like some of the names on the Wizards side, and have advocated tryign to get a guy like Etan Thomas in the past, or even Hayes as a 6th man. But not for Peja 9and that's from a noted Peja jocker like myself ;) ).
 
Sorry for being off topic but I need your help.

Doing an essay and an oral on "Are some races over(or under)-represented in certain sports". Do any of you happen to know some quality websites where they talk about the % of different races amongst athletes in the 4 major pro leagues? Example NBA: African-Americans 70% Whites 15% and so on. You guys know how school works, gotta have credible sources to backup your info bla bla bla...

thanks
 
Bibby_10 said:
Uhh if we were to get Chucky Atkins I would no longer be a Kings fan...
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Why? The guy can shoot the lights out... that'd be great to have off our bench, and is what were lacking there. Only thing is pretty much an undersized SG. Also undersized in general. He made six threes twice this season off the Washington bench, both occasions helping Washington go to overtime with their opponents (at Detroit and at Miami). Including the win at Detroit in 2OT, he fouled out in the late 4th though, but still.

http://www.hoopshype.com/players/chucky_atkins.htm

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chucky_atkins/index.html
 
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