OFFICIAL trade thread. Post trade proposals HERE! (merged)

[Bricklayer]

I think what happens with Nene depends on what Denver wants to do with Camby. He's been good for them but he's not getting any younger, and has been injury prone. Camby is 31 and has four or five years left on his contract. Nene is still only 23. Would you give up a player knowing you might need him in the not too distant future?

Depends on what sort of window you are looking at. Camby is a huge part of that team -- if you decide, and you might, that without him you do not contend, then you might go balls out to put together the contending team right now rather than wait and miss your window. Ont he other hand, if you see this as just the bgeinning, and consider the true future to be a Nene/Carmelo forward tandem, then obviously you don't do it. Thing is, a young guy with big upside like Nene is not likely to just wait around to find out. he's going to want time. He's going to want money. If you can't give those things to him he's going to leave in the not too distant future. So there is pressure there.

 

[Alacron]

Depends on what sort of window you are looking at. Camby is a huge part of that team -- if you decide, and you might, that without him you do not contend, then you might go balls out to put together the contending team right now rather than wait and miss your window. Ont he other hand, if you see this as just the bgeinning, and consider the true future to be a Nene/Carmelo forward tandem, then obviously you don't do it. Thing is, a young guy with big upside like Nene is not likely to just wait around to find out. he's going to want time. He's going to want money. If you can't give those things to him he's going to leave in the not too distant future. So there is pressure there.

Why do I just get the feeling a Nene/K-Mart/'Melo frontline isn't ever going to win anything significant? If they want to contend, Camby is key.
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[Bricklayer]

Why do I just get the feeling a Nene/K-Mart/'Melo frontline isn't ever going to win anything significant? If they want to contend, Camby is key.
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They badly overpaid for KMart, and one way to look at things would be to wait until Melo and Nene were ready for the burden, hope that Melo was 25ppg for his career, and Nene at least 18 and 8, and then make those two guys your core until 2015 or so + everybody else is expendable and will eventually age, retire, or be traded. But you have to have complete confidence in the kids for that to tbe the plan, no injuries of coourse, and it may mean yu're not able to put together a true contending unit in the present.


P.S. And jsut as a note here, while I'd like to see it happen, does anybody on here really think Cat is the missing piece for a championship contender? Guess the clutch shooting could be a major asset, but this guy's never been out of the first round and is just not a huge impact player, whatever his offensive talent.

 

[LA King Fan II]

Mobley seems to have some Nick Van Excel in him. He's absolutely cold-blooded when hot, but is not the type of guy who will do anything to win even if it means truly sacrificing his own game. I think of championship winning second and third fiddle guys like Ron Harper (seriously talented offensive player before knee surgery), Ginobli (well he ain't 2nd anymore), Dumars, Johnson/Ainge, Michael Cooper, etc. They could score 8 points and still be major contributors. We almost got to put Christie in this category, but alas no ring.

All of these guys would dive, pass, defend and score. The only offensive only contributor to a champion I can recall is Vinnie Johnson. Why i liken Mobley to Nicky V, is that both seem to get off on beating an opponent one-on-one more than being part of a winning team. At his peak before he lost a step, I would rather have had team-first Christie and all his occasional nervous failings rather than the icey Mobley.

 

[AleksandarN]

Sacramento Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes

Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes

Incoming

Elton Brand
6-8 PF from Duke
20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes

Chris Kaman
7-0 C from Central Michigan
9.1 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.9 minutes

Change in team outlook: +2.2 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and -1.7 apg.


L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Elton Brand
6-8 PF from Duke
20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes

Chris Kaman
7-0 C from Central Michigan
9.1 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.9 minutes

Incoming

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes

Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes

Change in team outlook: -2.2 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and +1.7 apg.



Successful Scenario

 

[Entity]

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Bobby Jackson
6-1 PG from Minnesota
12.0 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.4 apg in 21.4 minutes

Incoming
Jalen Rose
6-8 SG from Michigan
18.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.6 apg in 33.5 minutes

Chris Bosh
6-10 PF from Ga. Tech
16.8 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.9 apg in 37.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: +1.2 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and -0.4 apg.

Toronto Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Jalen Rose
6-8 SG from Michigan
18.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.6 apg in 33.5 minutes

Chris Bosh
6-10 PF from Ga. Tech
16.8 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.9 apg in 37.2 minutes

Incoming
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Bobby Jackson
6-1 PG from Minnesota
12.0 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.4 apg in 21.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: -1.2 ppg, +1.3 rpg, and +0.4 apg.

Successful Scenario

Toronto gets rid of a contract without having to pay it which they will do if they waive him. They also get depth at the 3 and 4. And of course we get a PF and a vet in Rose. All in All Rose, Ostertag, Thomas, Corlis, Jackson. All of those contract will be off our books for next season and we still have a starting 5 in tact

Bibby
Martin
Peja
bosh
Miller

 

[BobbyJ_for3!]

i dont like it because bobby is leaving D) but i can see the upside in it.

 

[BigSong]

There's no way Toronto trades Bosh for those 3 players Entity.

 

[WalMatt23]

theres no way toronto trades bosh for anyone other than Garnett, Duncan, wade, etc. Its OK though- I had the same pipedream last summer- Peja for bosh + whatever to make the salaries work.

 

[ForlornKing]

Sacramento Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes

Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes

Incoming

Elton Brand
6-8 PF from Duke
20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes

Chris Kaman
7-0 C from Central Michigan
9.1 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.9 minutes

Change in team outlook: +2.2 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and -1.7 apg.


L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Elton Brand
6-8 PF from Duke
20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes

Chris Kaman
7-0 C from Central Michigan
9.1 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.9 minutes

Incoming

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes

Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes

Change in team outlook: -2.2 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and +1.7 apg.



Successful Scenario

Replace Miller with Peja and we're set!!!

 

[ParniValjak]

OK I read in one of those wiretaps on realgm that Cavs might be looking to trade Drew Gooden for a more defensively minded PF. I understand we need a defensively minded PF as well but we also need to restock our talent because have bled a lot of talent in the last few years. How about we try to swing a deal for Gooden involving Skinner. I am not sure Cavs would go for it but its worth a try.

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Brian Skinner
6-9 PF from Baylor
2.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.3 minutes
Incoming
Drew Gooden
6-10 PF from Kansas
14.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 1.6 apg in 30.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +12.4 ppg, +6.6 rpg, and +1.4 apg.


Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Drew Gooden
6-10 PF from Kansas
14.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 1.6 apg in 30.8 minutes
Incoming
Brian Skinner
6-9 PF from Baylor
2.0 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.2 apg in 10.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -12.4 ppg, -6.6 rpg, and -1.4 apg.



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[Bricklayer]

Obviously that only makes our problem more acute, but sad as it may sound if we continue to bleed talent we mgiht reach the point you described -- where we actually just try to make moves for youth and talent alone without regard to fit so that we at least have the pieces to make deals with in the future.


As an aside, hard to imagine Cleveland going for a one-for-one Gooden/Skinner swap.

 

[Entity]

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Incoming
Nazr Mohammed
6-10 C from Kentucky
10.9 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 28.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: +0.1 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and -0.4 apg.

San Antonio Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Nazr Mohammed
6-10 C from Kentucky
10.9 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 28.1 minutes

Incoming
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: -0.1 ppg, -4.4 rpg, and +0.4 apg.

Successful Scenario

San Antonio gets a nice change of pace to Bruce Bowen and actually have somebody that can post up from the Bench in the SF or PF spot. They signed Oberto and still have Rasho. this is Nazr's contract season and I don't know if San Antonio cares enough to re-sign.

 

[Bricklayer]

But why oh why would the world champs trade away their starting center for Corliss Williamson? If nothing else, they could do better. Isiah is sucha dolt he might trade Nazr for a 6'5" PF, but I doubt Pop is.


Not that Nazr is really that special. But the Spurs have to be feeling pretty good about their lineup right now. Much more likely Rasho is on the move than Nazr.

 

[Entity]

Hell i don't know. I am just trying to come up with something. Why does any GM do what they do? I have seen some what i thought was stupid trades in my time.

 

[captain bill]

But why oh why would the world champs trade away their starting center for Corliss Williamson? If nothing else, they could do better. Isiah is sucha dolt he might trade Nazr for a 6'5" PF, but I doubt Pop is.


Not that Nazr is really that special. But the Spurs have to be feeling pretty good about their lineup right now. Much more likely Rasho is on the move than Nazr.

Why? The Spurs have two starting centers under contract (Oberto and Rasho) and Nazr is a free agent. I can't imagine Nazr being key to their championship runs, so they might just let him go and try to spend that money elsewhere, or get a sign and trade. I don't see why we can't just throw the MLE at Nazr or ship off...um...what exactly do we have that the Spurs want?

 

[captain bill]

P.S. And jsut as a note here, while I'd like to see it happen, does anybody on here really think Cat is the missing piece for a championship contender? Guess the clutch shooting could be a major asset, but this guy's never been out of the first round and is just not a huge impact player, whatever his offensive talent.

I think the problem with Cat (or Peja) is that he is overpaid. Lots of points and threes, and nothing else, makes you a role player, not someone who should get a big contract. If Cat got a smaller contract from a good, established team, he could push them over the top, work ethic or no. A team with a good core could add him to the mix, complementing the hard working well rounded players by nailing open shots and punishing other teams with lots of 3s. Of course, the NBA puts a premium on offensive, so one-sided, single impact offensive players like Cat get far more than they should meaning they won't be signed onto the teams that truly need them. I see players like Cat and Peja as pieces to fit a puzzle, role players in their own rights, not franchise cornerstones. Problem is, they're treated like they franchise players which really distorts their value to a team. Peja should never be given the burden of carrying an offense- he should sit on the wings and wait to be fed big shots while the other players to the real work. I love Peja and respect his game, but he lacks so many elements that he has to be treated as a role player, same as Mobley. If they are treated that way, they can win big. Otherwise, (and in all likelihood), no. So, Clippers suck.

 

[AleksandarN]

I know a good trade why not go for Randolph trade. That would give us a PF we could use and help improve the team. This is something worth while.

Sac trades

Kenny thomas
Pedja

Portland trades

Randolph
Miles

With the BYU that Zach I think have to use our trade exemptions and maybe a filler a well. This would give us a potential replacement for Webber and can be supper athletic and with Miles as our SF. Our team would be a hell of a lot better.

 

[captain bill]

I can't imagine Portland agreeing, but I do like it.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

I know a good trade why not go for Randolph trade. That would give us a PF we could use and help improve the team. This is something worth while.

Sac trades

Kenny thomas
Pedja

Portland trades

Randolph
Miles

With the BYU that Zach I think have to use our trade exemptions and maybe a filler a well. This would give us a potential replacement for Webber and can be supper athletic and with Miles as our SF. Our team would be a hell of a lot better.

Ewwwww.. Randolph.. Are you kidding me... The guy is the biggest headcase and all he cares about is himself on the court. He only passes if he absolutley has too, no thanks, we let go of Miles last year when we gave Charolette Gerald Wallace.... If we were going to get anybody from Portland we should get Ratliff or Pryzbilla, Something like

Sac trades:
Jackson
Thomas

Port Trades :
Pryzbilla
Patterson
Jack

^^^ Now that would be a great trade bringing 3 defensive studs onto our team. This trade works under the trade checker and I think its reasonable for both teams.
We give up two solid players for defence.. Which is what we need...
I would love to see this trade go down.. check out this lineup now...

C-Pryzbilla/Skinner/Ostertag
PF-Miller/Songaila
SF- Stojakovic/Patterson
SG-Evans/Martin/Garcia
PG-Bibby/Jack/House

That team is all of a sudden looking solid defensively, Lack of Offensive talent with our centers is made up of rebounds and defence, which we need.
What do you all think?

 

[Packt]

I'd do that deal. But it's not reasonable from Portlands point of view. We'd be robbing them basicly. We're getting a 7 footer who averages 2Blks last year for a undersized player who didn't even average 1blk. Then you give up a young player in Jack, who could end being a Jackson like player and a SF to back up Peja.

 

[Bricklayer]

Randolph and Miles are such jerks that Portland just MIGHT do that trade. They apparently really want loose of Miles contract at the very least, and may want to be rid of Zach's too.

That said, the REASON they want to be rid of Zach's mega-contract (perfectly timed for Zach, awfully for the Blazers) would be the problem -- in case it slipped under the radar Zach Randolph is recovereing from major kneee surgery right now. And you know WHICH major knee surgery? Microfracture surgery -- the same one Webb had. And Penny. And Googs. And Houston. And Kidd. Given how badly that surgery turns out for many major athletes, its amazing that they still do it. There has got to be something else they could try when the only solution the doctor proposes to you leaves you gimping around a shadow of your former self.

Anyway, Zach is still young and would be a major talent if he could just find a heart. As much as I dislike/distrust him and his maturity and work ethic, I might do the trade without the injury. But with it...not so sure. Taking a heck of a risk if he's never the player he once was and you have 6 more years left on a $12mil a year deal (or whatever).
P.S. Portland is apparently quite high on Pryzbilla ans is unlikely to trade him for our spare parts. And why shouldn't they be? Pryx and Jerome James owe us big time for singlehandedly reviving their careers and making them into commodities.

 

[nbrans]

Here's an interesting tidbit from the Houston Chronicle:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3268664

Today, Swift, a Grizzlies free agent, is in the midst of sign-and-trade discussions involving the Nets that could pay him $10 million more than the Rockets can offer...

What they're referring to is a sign and trade involving New Jersey's trade exception. It's possible that Stromile wants to play in New Jersey badly enough to pass up more money he could get from a team under the cap (like the Sonics) -- Jason Kidd could do wonders for his career. If New Jersey and Memphis work out that trade, I think it can only be very good for the Kings.

If it happens, it has two major ramifications for the Kings.

1) the primary competition (i.e. the Nets) for Shareef Abdur-Rahim have their power forward. Yeah, if this trade happened the Nets would still have their MLE, but I would think both Swift and Abdur-Rahim want to go to situations where they're going to start, and I've heard that the Nets want to use their MLE on a backup point guard, especially with Jason Kidd now injury prone. The Kings suddenly become the #1 team for SAR if he has to sign for the MLE

2) Memphis has a trade exception. They're going to get a million offers for Bonzi Wells, but since they're lacking on depth in the frontcourt, the Kings could trade Memphis Brian Skinner and Kenny Thomas/Corliss Williamson/Ostertag for Bonzi Wells + trade exception. The Kings get their starting SG plus some major cap flexibility going into next season, enough to both resign/S&T Peja and sign another free agent.

So the Kings are:

Bibby
Bonzi
Peja
SAR
Miller

Bobby
Martin
Thomas/Williamson/Ostertag (two out of three)
Garcia

I think the liklihood of this happening is about 0.75%, but it sure is fun to contemplate.

 

[VF21]

I do NOT like that idea in any way.

We do not IMHO want to give away a combination of "bigs," even if questionable how big, for Bonzi Wells. It wouldn't solve a problem; it would only create another one.

And I'm still not convinced that SAR is going to be the PF we want to pin our hopes on.

I would "druther" let the youngsters battle it out for the 2-guard position, sign Evans to help out, and keep looking for a legitimate big that is a real upgrade from what we already have.

This is a very weird free agency pool this summer. People with marginal skills are getting paid HUGE amounts of money and I think it's going to come back and bite the teams that are doing it.

I'm very glad to see Petrie, so far, staying out of the free-for-all. Sure, he's making all the right comments to the media to keep people from thinking he's doing nothing but I also think he has something entirely different in mind - and it's going to be something we haven't heard about for weeks in the press ahead of time.

 

[SlimKid15]

Not sure if someone already commented on this, but i was just reading on realgm.com that phoenix might be shopping shawn marion so they can make room to sign joe johnson and amare, Its says there talking to the knicks about a trade involving tim thomas because his contract ends next year. I say we give em peja and somebody for him. I think he'd be great to have on the team he scores rebounds and plays good defense....Just thought i would throw that out there.

 

[captain bill]

Not sure if someone already commented on this, but i was just reading on realgm.com that phoenix might be shopping shawn marion so they can make room to sign joe johnson and amare, Its says there talking to the knicks about a trade involving tim thomas because his contract ends next year. I say we give em peja and somebody for him. I think he'd be great to have on the team he scores rebounds and plays good defense....Just thought i would throw that out there.

I just saw that article, too. Didn't think of that at all. Not a bad idea. They need a SF after Q is gone and Thomas will be starting at PF so they could unload Marion. Peja for Marion straight up doesn't work, but Peja and Corliss does. Phoenix would like it because they get two expiring contracts and a great fit for SF in their offense, much better than Tim Thomas, especially because Peja has experience with such a high scoring offense. Biggest problems I can see with this trade: GP doesn't want to give up Peja, and neither team wants to give a division rival what they need to succeed. Peja burns us in a playoff series? Decides to get serious about the offseason now? Besides, Phoenix would probably rather see Marion heading east. But the fact that this trade does so much for both teams is rather indisputable, so it could realistically happen.

EDIT:

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
20.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 38.4 minutes
Incoming Shawn Marion
6-7 PF from UNLV
19.4 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 38.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: -11.5 ppg, +3.3 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

Phoenix Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Shawn Marion
6-7 PF from UNLV
19.4 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 38.8 minutes
Incoming

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
20.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 38.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: +11.5 ppg, -3.3 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

Successful ScenarioDue to Sacramento and Phoenix being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Sacramento and Phoenix had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

 

[Bricklayer]

Not sure if someone already commented on this, but i was just reading on realgm.com that phoenix might be shopping shawn marion so they can make room to sign joe johnson and amare, Its says there talking to the knicks about a trade involving tim thomas because his contract ends next year. I say we give em peja and somebody for him. I think he'd be great to have on the team he scores rebounds and plays good defense....Just thought i would throw that out there.

Well, the article which states that is pretty much just speculating (and from a traditional Knicks-centric point of view even though its S.I.), and frankly realgm has been pushing the "Suns will trade Marion" thing all summer as if they had an agenda (the guy who runs the site thought it was a good idea and decided it would happen months ago). The question remains, why would the Suns trade away Marion to keep Johnson?

Anyway, obviously would be a disaster for the Suns. But if it WERE true I would agree -- we can beat New York's ending contracts by a mile -- Peja, Bobby, Tag etc. Now the downside is then you have an overpaid Marion rather than an overpaid Peja (Marion is close to max too, although the deal runs out a lot sooner than Peja's would and he's younger) -- but Marion would patch a LOT of holes for us (as long as we didn't become idiotic and try to play him at PF ala the Suns).

Peja + Tag for Marion
Bobby + Corliss for Wells

you find some way to get a long shotblocking PF in there and you actually have a serious lineup of Bibby/Wells/Marion/??/Miller



P.S. From the Suns perspective you would almost have to wonder if they'd rather have Thomas -- if you think about it and the deal is that they are trying to make sure they have room to sign Amare to the max next year, then I could see them preferring to also have a guy like Thomas, who I think would be restricted, that they could also sign back for a much cheaper deal (maybe $6mil or so) than a guy like Peja who they KNOW they would have to lose because he'd be looking for max.

 

[ONEZERO]

Yeah, like VF said, what's up with these free agents getting these crazy contracts? I remember when there was only a few players in the league getting max contracts. Now it seems like everyone is getting them. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is, petrie is probably just taking his time and I really truly gotta believe he has something planned. I would like to somehow get ratliffe as our center and move brad to pf where I think he is best suited. Then I would like to get bonzi as our sg, but I still wouldn't mind having the youngsters battle it out.

 

[SlimKid15]

Yeah, like VF said, what's up with these free agents getting these crazy contracts? I remember when there was only a few players in the league getting max contracts. Now it seems like everyone is getting them. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is, petrie is probably just taking his time and I really truly gotta believe he has something planned. I would like to somehow get ratliffe as our center and move brad to pf where I think he is best suited. Then I would like to get bonzi as our sg, but I still wouldn't mind having the youngsters battle it out.

One of the things about Petrie is that he usaully makes the deal we never even think of. And i cant remember the last time he actually did something that was rumored. so i have to think like you on this that he has a plan. Once all free agents are signed then petrie can pick on teams that didn't get who they wanted.

 

[captain bill]

Yeah, like VF said, what's up with these free agents getting these crazy contracts? I remember when there was only a few players in the league getting max contracts. Now it seems like everyone is getting them. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is, petrie is probably just taking his time and I really truly gotta believe he has something planned. I would like to somehow get ratliffe as our center and move brad to pf where I think he is best suited. Then I would like to get bonzi as our sg, but I still wouldn't mind having the youngsters battle it out.

Remember that this year the max contracts are substantially less than what they were before. A 5 year deal for an incoming free agent is much less costly than a 7 year one, as a max would be just last year. A lot of players getting the 5 year max deal this year probably wouldn't have gotten the max last year. And for those who may have, it shows this rule is truly working, protecting teams against overzealous agents bent on getting their players the fattests possible contracts.