Now I'm worried.....again!

VF21, we all hope for the best. How else could some of us have been Kings fans for 15 years? My concern now is the Catch 22 situation we find the Kings in: need for role player vs. budget, need for change vs. good chemistry, they look so good for 2 and maybe 3 quarters vs. not holding on in 4th, and finally 7 man rotation now vs. will they last to playoff time. Worst of all none of us seem to have a solution. I am always of the opinion "theres a pony in there somewhere!" (optimist/salesman story of cabin full of horse-sh_ _ , CFO/pessimist says "my god look at all that crap!" Optimist says there must be a pony in there somewhere...).
 
None of us may have a solution, but hopefully Petrie and Co. will. ;)

Now you have to excuse me. I'm gonna keep digging for that pony!!!

:D
 
Seems Coach in the Bee article this morning shares some of the views I've been trying to make:

"Adelman, meanwhile, went home wondering how to get the machine out of the mud without getting splattered by the debris.

Adelman suggested that the Kings act as if they are better than they really are, taking their years of Arco Arena success for granted and sleepwalking instead of planting their feet on throats through key stretches."

As fans what can we do? Well for starters lets push and hollar for some playing time from Daniels, Martin and/or Barnes. Not together but during those "dull' stretches. Adelman sees the situation they are in and he is frustrated too. So lets see them do something.
 
CruzDude said:
What I worry about most is wearing out the starting 5 with too many minutes and a bench mindset they just won't get much time. :(
Rick Adelman and Rudy Tomjanovich should have a beer.
 
Ehh??

CruzDude said:
So I guess the warrior game was "exciting" for you die hards.
CruzDude since when did being a "Die hard" Kings fan become a negative thing?
 
Oh, S. I committed a faux pas. It's probably not a good idea for Rudy to have a beer. Forget I said that, Rudy.
 
I think you're safe, Gargy. I think I banned Rudy earlier this season...

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Kings mental state, that is the question.

Bricklayer said:
I'm not so worried about our weaknesses at the moment (well yes I am) as our mental state........ About 4-5 years of being an elite team, after playoff war after playoff war, pretty much if the team doesn't know how to close out a good opponent by now, I sincerely doubt its suddenly going to learn how to in a few months of regular season play.

This mornings Bee article where RA looks for consistency hits this nail on the head: the teams mental state. Maybe they are still figuring they can just show up to beat many teams when in fact now they cannot. But for 4-5 years that attitude got them 55 wins and one year more than 60.

Without the supporting cast it gets dangerous to keep old habits and without a change in attitude even more so. But as we all seem to be asking now, what IS a solution? How about bringing in Evans earlier for Christie, to save DC's foot. Or.....? or........? arrgghhh :o
 
CruzDude said:
This mornings Bee article where RA looks for consistency hits this nail on the head: the teams mental state. Maybe they are still figuring they can just show up to beat many teams when in fact now they cannot. But for 4-5 years that attitude got them 55 wins and one year more than 60.

Without the supporting cast it gets dangerous to keep old habits and without a change in attitude even more so. But as we all seem to be asking now, what IS a solution? How about bringing in Evans earlier for Christie, to save DC's foot. Or.....? or........? arrgghhh :o
I don't think its the same attitude we've had for the last 5 years. Was a point we were hungry to kick everybody's butt everytime we stepped on the floor.

What I worry about with this team is that its just tired. Not physically so much as mentally. Burnt out on all of the close calls, all of the adversity. Feeling the barbs of the call in radio boobs. Aware that there is not a thing it can do right now to shut people up. That no matter how well it plays in the next few months, people are still going to question them, still going to say "yeah we've seen this before". Same way that many fans or former fans will simply refuse to get excited about this team because "been there, done that, won't believe you can do more until you actually pull it off", I worry that that attitude has infected the team too. What does it matter? They have no chance at redemption until June anyway, so what does it really matter? The crowds won't get excited for them, nobody's going to give than any credit in the media, even their owners seem less present this year. So for the team, maybe just perhaps a lack of consistent focus because somewhere down deep, it means more than to the other team than it does to us.

Basically I worry that we are burnt out on the regular season. Like a championship team perhaps, but without ever having won it all. And of course the bad part is once that attitude sets in on a championship team, they aren't champions much longer. Sets in for us, and we never will be.

We're weary, dogged, focused on a distant goal. The team has and has always had great heart. But I worry that somehow we've started to become numb. That we're dogged, but not enthusiastic, not so much excited about the possibilities and willing to lay it all on the line to pursue a dream we've all had, as just determined to hang in there, to persevere, not to give up.

And if all of that is true, the question becomes do you let them soldier on until they run into a younger, more excited bunch on the way up rather than just hanging on, or do you shake it up? Our guys need their excitement back -- they need to start viewing big games as an exciting opportunity to strut their stuff rather than an exhausting opportunity to fail, an ordeal which must be passed.
 
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And I think we, the fans who still believe, OWE it to the team to remind them that we are still there...

When you attend a game, get involved. CHEER!! Don't wait until the middle of the second quarter to make a half-hearted "de-fense" chant.

The Kings always have fed off the crowd and the crowd has fed off the team. It's been the perfect symbiotic relationship. Right now, if the team is "burnt out" on the regular season, I think the fans can help bring them back into the now. They took out that ad saying "Our spirit will never be broken" because of all the negativity. The media became the story instead of the vehicle FOR the story...

Bricklayer made an excellent point - Our guys DO need their excitement back. And I think the ARCO crowds are the ones who can give it to them. It's a shame the local media won't get behind the team for once, instead of being all too eager to jump on any real or perceived problem.

I don't know if I'll be attending any more games this year, but I can promise one thing. If I do, I'm going to scream until I'm hoarse, I'm going to cheer from beginning to end, and I'm going to make sure they know at least one person out of those 17,317 people in the place is very, very glad to be a Sacramento Kings fan!!
 
Mental State....numb....mentally tired..... 42 and 44 posts into this thread and I think we (Kingsfans.com in general and Bricklayer and VF21 in particular) are getting down to something that makes more sense then most of the other vetting. I hope none of it is true but seems to jive with what I'm seeing.

The Kings are not bad they ARE in the top 5 in the NBA. But the lack of consistency vs. the mental state thing makes a bunch of sense. None of us knows what it is like to play 82 or 94 or more games a year for 5 years now, get close to the golden ring but never quite get there. In the 90's the Jazz and Blazers both were like that except they both went to the finals twice, the Blazers with Adelman at the helm.

Could the coach be afflicted with the same thing? Heck, he has 2 5-year stretches like that in 14 years. After 6 years of good or great team chemistry and 55 wins or more every year could he be running out of steam? Who could blame him? It must be frustrating to watch such a great bunch of players get close then slip back a bit last year then struggle a bit more this year.

I'm frustrated for them. But lets see what happens in the next 5 games, 4 of which are winnable road games followed by 7 of 8 home games. Martin got some time and did very well, Evans could become a monstor on the boards and get 10pts a night and Barnes, well up and down but with some real athleticism. Maybe even Daniels, unless he is in the doghouse. If they plus Darius and Tag can take some of the burden off the starters we may see more consistency from the big 5.

Would not suprise me that Adelman opts out after this year (if they don't get to the finals), an observation only not based on any rating of his performance, which I thinks is excellent so far.

If you were a product salesman and your baseline products got greater sales for 4 year then flattened out and maybe declined a bit, would you not want some improvement in the product or a better product mix?
 
WOW. After the Jazz and Spurs game, this thread stopped quickly. GREAT!! Made me happy. :)

It is only 2 games. Lets revisit this weekend after 4 in 5 nights.
 
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