New backup PG???

[captain bill]

Let's not set our sights too high here. A backup PG has never brought home a championship for a team. And we still have a giant hole at the PF position. I'm all for making a big push to nab a good PF with all of the MLE and then scrapping together some decent backups. And at this point in this career, DC seems begging to come back to Sac and play for nothing, just for a few minutes. All events indicate that it broke his heart to be traded and that he never really made an effort to play in Orlando, and that he desperately wants to come back to Sac, and I have no doubt that he would jump at taking the vet min. Also, Payton seems willing to come here cheap, too. Obviously he lowered his own price tag, going to LA for cheap. It's not the same situation, clearly, but it goes to show that the guy wants to get a chance to play somewhere desireable rather than pursue a paycheck, and he has said that Sacramento is a place he would like to play. So I'm not going to sweat this position at all. I think PF should be our main focus now, and let the chips fall on the backup PG situation.

 

[kingsofnba]

the reason why guys like earl watson, brevin knight, dan dickau, marko jaric, damon stoudamire are not on the list or poll, is because they would definitley want more money and possibly a starting role... and the kings do not have the money or PT to entice those types of players to play maybe 15 min/game for the vet min... i would venture to guess, that petrie will not break the bank and use the MLE on a backup PG... i would hope that most of the MLE is reserved to get a big man in here!!!

 

[uolj]

Unless the backup PG is a true scrub, the kids' minutes will get squished. I just do not see Adelman using more than 3 guards for any serious playing time without injuries forcing him to.

 

[captain bill]

^^^Good point. If we do resign Mo, having Evans, Garcia and Marting to backup Wells and Bibby in various permutations wouldn't be such a bad thing. Maybe we don't need to even pick up another guard at this point, and if the team really plays this right, we can get better and tougher by spending our cash on a FA backup PF or C in addition to grabbing a starter. I think I would rather see us add 2 good PFs than a decent backup for Bibby.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

^^^Good point. If we do resign Mo, having Evans, Garcia and Marting to backup Wells and Bibby in various permutations wouldn't be such a bad thing. Maybe we don't need to even pick up another guard at this point, and if the team really plays this right, we can get better and tougher by spending our cash on a FA backup PF or C in addition to grabbing a starter. I think I would rather see us add 2 good PFs than a decent backup for Bibby.

Yah thats what I was thinking also.. Garcia has all the tools to be a point guard even if only for a short period of time while Bibbys out, I hope this team dosen't just let Mo walk, he's got too many Intangibles we need.
Now if we can pick up someone like Reggie Evans or Steven Hunter , then I think we'll be alright and very much improved on Defence. Even if we got one of the two, just a big man that does something other then scoring, Brian Skinner will most likey be our back-up Center this year which will be good to bring his energy and defence off the bench.

 

[Kings113]

Mo won't be walking until he agrees to a deal with another team, then he is probably gone.

Brevin Knight isn't expensive. If they want to go after Watson, he could be gotten in a trade.

 

[captain bill]

Mo won't be walking until he agrees to a deal with another team, then he is probably gone.

Brevin Knight isn't expensive. If they want to go after Watson, he could be gotten in a trade.

Ummmmmm..............






My prediction for tonight's game: the team that manages to play a good game and score more points than the other team will probably, in all likelihood, win the game. But don't hold me to that. I could be wrong.

 

[RaY Z]

hmmm... what about erik daniels? hehehe


he did play pg in his highschool days

 

[Kings113]

You could argue that Bobby is a small SG and not a PG too. Eddie played great last year when he became acclimated. Lets keep it all in the family.

That or if payton was willing to sign for vet. minimum. That would be nice. Bring on Eddie Griffin and we are one maniacal team!

Eddie doesn't have Brevin's or Watson's defense. Nor Knight's great passing and steals. Knight's been around a long time too. Eddie's a scorer, and instant offense off the bench. I'd be fine if we kept him, but would be in-between as our pirmary back-up PG. Yes, B-Jax was a combo guard.

I've seen very little talk about Knight this off-season, and not since early on in the first week, like 2 or 3 times. Watson is less likely, but is a possibility.

 

[Kings113]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kings113
Mo won't be walking until he agrees to a deal with another team, then he is probably gone.

Brevin Knight isn't expensive. If they want to go after Watson, he could be gotten in a trade.

Ummmmmm..............













My prediction for tonight's game: the team that manages to play a good game and score more points than the other team will probably, in all likelihood, win the game. But don't hold me to that. I could be wrong.

Maurice is still on the market as of right now. Show me where I'm wrong.

That paragraph is irrelevant.

 

[captain bill]

I was making fun of your statement that if we agrees to a deal with another team then he is probably gone. Re-reading it I see I may have read it slightly incorrectly, but I still find it amusing. If he signs somewhere else, he probably won't play for the kings.

 

[HndsmCelt]

unfortunatly as bidding for the servises of most of these guys go up the Kings have to be MORE concerned with spending their MLE on a at least one more big man, so I suspect the compromise answer will be a return of Eddie House.

 

[Kings113]

I was making fun of your statement that if we agrees to a deal with another team then he is probably gone. Re-reading it I see I may have read it slightly incorrectly, but I still find it amusing. If he signs somewhere else, he probably won't play for the kings.

Uh, k.

I never said sign, I said agree to a deal. Which is what players (aside from draft picks) have been doing since July 1st, and until July 28th. Hence "probably", and not definite.

 

[ParniValjak]

I am more concerned about getting a PF. I wouldn't mind seeing DC back with the Kings as a back-up PG. He knows our system, he is a great leader, role-model and a great passer who can create for others. If Orlando waives him and we could get him for veteran minimum then I am all for it. The question is would he want to come back if not then I wouldn't mind seeing Brevin Knight as a back up to Bibby and we wouldn't have to break a bank to sign him up either.

 

[Bricklayer]

I am more concerned about getting a PF. I wouldn't mind seeing DC back with the Kings as a back-up PG. He knows our system, he is a great leader, role-model and a great passer who can create for others. If Orlando waives him and we could get him for veteran minimum then I am all for it. The question is would he want to come back if not then I wouldn't mind seeing Brevin Knight as a back up to Bibby and we wouldn't have to break a bank to sign him up either.

I threw my support behind the DC idea a few pages back just as a thought, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. We'd have good size, an experienced hand, an extra defender, maybe get back a little locker room leadership, along with the completely nutty wife. And then with the expanded rosters we could carry an extra pure PG in case Bibby ever got huirt (since I like Doug more to fill in for 10-15 min of reserve PG duty than actually being called upon to start at that position).

I wouldn't pay big $$ to get him back -- he is at the end and we need every ounce of that MLE for other purposes. But that's the advanatage -- I think Doug wants to come back out to the West Coast, and I think he wants to retire with us out here. He might very well come for the vet minimum just for a year, and that would be good vlaue for our money and free up our real resources to plug our other holes.

 

[BibityBobtyBoom]

If we want some veteran leadership, why don't we just sign Gary Payton, he played well towards the end of last season. I just figure it will work good with either brevin or dan, because brevin's career has turned right side up now, and dan dikau just wants to win.

 

[KingKong]

I like the DC idea too. He would be excellent at controlling the second unit and mentoring the young ones as well. Plus he already knows the system all too well and a whatever defense he has left in him.

 

[Zack]

Mateen Cleaves?

 

[SlimKid15]

I like the DC idea too. He would be excellent at controlling the second unit and mentoring the young ones as well. Plus he already knows the system all too well and a whatever defense he has left in him.

I agree with you on this. I mean hes played point plenty of times before. And in a bench role i think he could still give us what he used to as a starter since it would be limited minutes and he could give it his all in 10 to 15 mins instead of 30 to 35.

 

[tyrant]

one point guard that really blossomed was damon jones. this guy was solid for miami. why not bring him back?

 

[Bballkingsrock]

That is a good idea to bring Damon but he might be expensive or he might be mad that we didn't trust him and we dumped him. Other than that, and he takes care of those situations then it is a deal.

 

[Kings113]

I love his shooting though, it's LETHAL, I'd be satisfied with him as back-up PG.

He isn't much on defense though, probably have to get Mo back or get someone else for a more defensive, hustling guard... Buckner? I don't know his price, but things between him and Denver have been less than earlier in the off-season. I'd love him to be on the Kings.

 

[kingsofnba]

Damon Jones is out of our price range... he opted out of a $2-3mil per year contract in miami, no way he takes less money to come and be bibby's backup for less money....

as far as the backup PG, unless petrie trades for a power forward, and not using the MLE on a forward, don't expect the kings to pay more than the $1.7 mil veterans exception for a backup PG

 

[tyrant]

ya know watching damon jones in this years playoffs he kinda reminded me of sam cassell. they way he would kick his leg out and dance his way up the court to start the offense. it's like they kinda have the same genre. both are not that quick but can knock down the 3 with ease.


no offense to eddie, but i don't think he can cut it as a backup. trade him. we are gonna have to sign a backup and see if fransisco can act as a doug christie.

 

[Kings113]

Eddie's an unrestricted FA. He'd be like my 3/4th choice.

 

[thesanityannex]

i take my vote back, for whoever, i've already forgotten, and replace with a brevin kight vote.

 

[BigSong]

Payton for scoring and defense. with him and bonzi wed have 2 guards that could score in the post and\or kick out to Brad or Peja.

 

[Kings113]

Ah, yeah, I forgot about Payton's defense. Just don't like his shooting, and figure he'd want some good money...

 

[Mad D]

ya know watching damon jones in this years playoffs he kinda reminded me of sam cassell. they way he would kick his leg out and dance his way up the court to start the offense. it's like they kinda have the same genre. both are not that quick but can knock down the 3 with ease.

Your perception of Cassel might differ because of his games against the Kings, he is a mediocre 3pt shooter.

no offense to eddie, but i don't think he can cut it as a backup. trade him.

He isn't under contract with us, so you probably won't have to worry about that.

Ah, yeah, I forgot about Payton's defense.

So did he.

 

[ParniValjak]

I threw my support behind the DC idea a few pages back just as a thought, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. We'd have good size, an experienced hand, an extra defender, maybe get back a little locker room leadership, along with the completely nutty wife. And then with the expanded rosters we could carry an extra pure PG in case Bibby ever got huirt (since I like Doug more to fill in for 10-15 min of reserve PG duty than actually being called upon to start at that position).

I wouldn't pay big $$ to get him back -- he is at the end and we need every ounce of that MLE for other purposes. But that's the advanatage -- I think Doug wants to come back out to the West Coast, and I think he wants to retire with us out here. He might very well come for the vet minimum just for a year, and that would be good vlaue for our money and free up our real resources to plug our other holes.

Yeah thats my line of thinking as well but Kings could go the other way. We have shown interest in Juan Dixon and maybe Kings are looking for a combo guard that will give us some scoring punch off the bench ala Bobby Jackson. Kings possibly see Dixon as a reasonable replacement for Bobby Jackson and maybe they could do a S&T with Wizrds since they have shown some interested in Songaila.

Back up PG is not really too big a concern IMHO. We really need to get a starting, quality PF or C and move Brad to 4.