Don't forget we got Barnes out of it too.
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Don't forget we got Barnes out of it too.
You're right - it mitigates the JJ pick pretty significantly, but from talent evaluation we really blew it.
Chris Paul has been a top guard for a long time and he did lift the Suns team way up this year, but this deal is an overpayment for that length of time, age-factor, and injury history. 2 years, ok, - perhaps a little more reward if they'd actually taken the title. Just cannot see Paul performing at an NBA high level at 39 and 40 yro let alone year 38.
kingsboi
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one last pay day before he hangs it up. After the season he and the Suns had, he deserves big banks. He's also one of those players who's game ages well considering he doesn't rely on athleticism, albeit he has been banged up from time to time so Suns also taking a risk here
I would call it one last 'over-payday'. I see why he turned down $44 million or whatever it was.... you can't blame him at all for taking the deal. Of course these teams don't seem to care about salary caps or luxury taxes much anyway.
kingsboi
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Suns went 9 or 10 straight seasons without the Playoffs. Them taking a chance at overpaying Paul is worth the gamble in my opinion considering where they've been before his arrival along with Monte
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Hard to grasp for me, that DMC cant get any traction with teams in FA, while guys like Whiteside, Portis, WCS or Theis are getting signed.
From what I've seen he dominated on offense vs bench guys, when given playing time. Granted pick&roll defense was a problem, but it is for a lot of bigs in the league.
Whats your take? DMC's career over? Is he just not good enough anymore or is it the narrative of the potential malcontent, thats still out there and seems to follow him, regardless, that his teammates and coaches praise his attitude.
From what I've seen he dominated on offense vs bench guys, when given playing time. Granted pick&roll defense was a problem, but it is for a lot of bigs in the league.
Whats your take? DMC's career over? Is he just not good enough anymore or is it the narrative of the potential malcontent, thats still out there and seems to follow him, regardless, that his teammates and coaches praise his attitude.
Always been insecure despite being one of the largest, popular and most well liked people on earth.
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SLAB
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Yeah, that loser organization in Miami was holding you down.
Not familiar with this competition, but is it the same level as the California Classic? Or lower? I see it's for area talent out of Seattle, so does have UW NBA talent.
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Sacramento used to have a pro am. It was mostly locals who were in college.
I saw Zach Lavine, Matisse Thybulle and Kevin Porter Jr. were playing as well as a few other names I recognize.
#LegendAtTheBank
I was curious so I googled it. Michael Jordan didn't make that much in a season for the Bulls until he came back from his first retirement (at which point he became the highest paid player by almost double what anyone else was making).
"Would you rather be underpaid, or overrated?" - Jay-Z
miltonap
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His shot doesn't even look bad there. But sometimes he bends his wrist and stuff. Surely it shouldn't be that hard to get him to shoot decently right. I mean, it's the NBA, the national BASKETBALL organization, they have tons of money and probably the best coaches around. Is it really that hard ?
Telemachus
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The player has to be willing to work with the team. From everything I have heard, Simmons likes to do things his own way.
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This would be a big red flag for me if I were trading for him
Tetsujin
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There is also an excerpt featuring Larry Sanders getting tortured by Kidd to point of him having both a physical and mental breakdown (he would later go on to quit basketball) but there was a couple of naughty words involved and also the content made me sick so I'm not posting it here.
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Well that's just insane.
Yeah, I saw that too. That's just heartbreaking. At the 2013 MIT Sloan Analytics Conference one of the published papers went into extensive detail on why Larry Sanders was the most effective defender in the entire NBA. In 2015 after just 27 games playing under Jason Kidd, Sanders announced mid-season that he was retiring from the NBA at age 26 citing mental health as the reason. He did make an attempt at a comeback a couple years later but it's no exaggeration to say that Jason Kidd ruined his career.
Which begs the question, if all this info is out there, how come Becky Hammon can't get a head coaching gig but Jason Kidd has just been offered his third?
Boys club.
But also Hammon would be smart to wait out Pop if she can. If she were passed over she'd be rightfully livid, but that's one place that is going to give her a fair shake. Especially if Pop starts the rebuild now and hands her a reloaded team that doesn't exactly have championship aspirations, just the kind of make the playoffs ones a Kings coach would have.
But also Hammon would be smart to wait out Pop if she can. If she were passed over she'd be rightfully livid, but that's one place that is going to give her a fair shake. Especially if Pop starts the rebuild now and hands her a reloaded team that doesn't exactly have championship aspirations, just the kind of make the playoffs ones a Kings coach would have.
I'm guessing she's waiting out Pop and probably even promised his job once he retires. So perhaps unless the absolute perfect situation opens up, she's just hanging on?
Pop is 72, gotta imagine he maybe has 2 or so years left. Especially if SA really starts to bottom out, it'd be hard for me to see him stick around for a rebuild.
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