MLB Thread - 2023

Looks like Verlander went for the Stros FRP last year that's already in AA and their #4 prospect in the system. Mets are probably paying a crap-ton of his salary, but man. Our equivalent of this is probably trading like Reggie Crawford and Wisenhunt.
 

SLAB

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Looks like Verlander went for the Stros FRP last year that's already in AA and their #4 prospect in the system. Mets are probably paying a crap-ton of his salary, but man. Our equivalent of this is probably trading like Reggie Crawford and Wisenhunt.
At that price, I’ll pass.
 

SLAB

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I like nothing better than overpaying. Really wish we could have shipped off some deadweight or ripped someone off. Lmao

Guess the returning Thairo will be considered our big get.
 

dude12

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There was at least deals out there that would fit the platoon system they have in place or acquiring an arm that would fit the bulk innings spots. Not to expensive and wouldn’t cost more than some prospects in the 20-30 range which is always a crapshoot.
I’m anticipating Pollock failing here in his role, how could one not think that with his numbers and Zaidi interview basically saying that Pollock would lengthen the lineup to take pressure off younger guys.

Probably would have been better off just giving the ABs to Heliot Ramos at this point as he’s raking in triple A.
 

Makes sense. Their were no real game changer bats available anyway and the 2 SP's worth anything (Verlander/Scherzer) cost quality prospects. Would anyone have been happy if we sent Matos for one of them?

I think the move is just continue to stay the course, develop the youth, open a blank check for Ohtani and then you're in a position to be a real buyer at next years deadline. I just didn't see anyone available this year that vaults us into true contender status.
 

Makes sense. Their were no real game changer bats available anyway and the 2 SP's worth anything (Verlander/Scherzer) cost quality prospects. Would anyone have been happy if we sent Matos for one of them?

I think the move is just continue to stay the course, develop the youth, open a blank check for Ohtani and then you're in a position to be a real buyer at next years deadline. I just didn't see anyone available this year that vaults us into true contender status.
Sometimes, the best move is the one that isn't made.

One thing I've learned in sports is that it truly pays off to wait and be patient.
 
Sometimes, the best move is the one that isn't made.

One thing I've learned in sports is that it truly pays off to wait and be patient.
Yeah, I think it's a matter of really correctly identifying when you have a shot to go win a title. Like when we traded Wheeler for Beltran the season Posey was hurt all year.... Like what? That literally accomplished nothing and we lost a dude who developed into a top-end starter for the last decade.

This deadline feels pretty similar. Like the team is good, we have some fun young pieces, but I don't think we're actually a contender. We're not one piece away from winning a a world series. Like what does Jordan Montgomery or Michael Lorenzen actually do for us? Sure, SP depth, but is that actually changing the outcome of this season?
 

dude12

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I have to disagree on there being no moves out there. There were some moves made by other teams where they used prospects in the 18-30 range it seemed. And not talking about the innings eaters SP but at least a bulk inning guy or 2. The goal has to be to make the playoffs right? Could have added a bat for the short term without sending off a major prospect.

Want to stick with the young guys, I’m good with it. But why go away from Luciano and Schmitt and now we are playing Isan who has not proven he can perform at this level. Why Pollock? Hope is not a plan and they are hoping he has something left. Should have stayed in the organization and stayed with the young guy.
 
I have to disagree on there being no moves out there. There were some moves made by other teams where they used prospects in the 18-30 range it seemed. And not talking about the innings eaters SP but at least a bulk inning guy or 2. The goal has to be to make the playoffs right? Could have added a bat for the short term without sending off a major prospect.

Want to stick with the young guys, I’m good with it. But why go away from Luciano and Schmitt and now we are playing Isan who has not proven he can perform at this level. Why Pollock? Hope is not a plan and they are hoping he has something left. Should have stayed in the organization and stayed with the young guy.
Who though? Or I guess who of the bats that got traded is actually an upgrade to what we have? Dejong is fine, but he's been pretty bad the last few years and league average-ish this season. Jake Burger has some pop, but he's DH only. Josh Bell has some good history but he's been poor this year too. Pham is having a good year, but we don't have any room to cut anyone out of the OF. And he's 35, so could very easily regress. I like Choi too, but he's been awful this year and is essentially just a bad version of Wade. Platoon guy as well. Candelario is a good stick, but where do you play him? He's 1B/3B only.

Idk, it's annoying we didn't do anything, but there wasn't really much to upgrade on here at the deadline.
 

dude12

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Who though? Or I guess who of the bats that got traded is actually an upgrade to what we have? Dejong is fine, but he's been pretty bad the last few years and league average-ish this season. Jake Burger has some pop, but he's DH only. Josh Bell has some good history but he's been poor this year too. Pham is having a good year, but we don't have any room to cut anyone out of the OF. And he's 35, so could very easily regress. I like Choi too, but he's been awful this year and is essentially just a bad version of Wade. Platoon guy as well. Candelario is a good stick, but where do you play him? He's 1B/3B only.

Idk, it's annoying we didn't do anything, but there wasn't really much to upgrade on here at the deadline.
Mark Canha was traded for a minor leaguer Justin Jarvis who is not in the Brewers top 30 prospects list….unless I’m completely missing him. Canha actually fits what SF does with his ability to walk AND he has ability to play 1b.
He’s just one example but I’d guess we would have had other opportunities.

I do think Farhan has given Kapler a good roster in general with the emphasis on platooning. If you look at the roster as everyday players, then no, it doesn’t look good but as platoon guys, it’s pretty good, not great but good…..he’s using the Tampa method here. A guy like Canha >>>> Pollock which is absurd at this point in time. Maybe Pollock shows out.

I was definitely looking for arms though. I wasn’t looking for middle infielders. But I did think we needed an OFer.
One of the issues with the roster after they outlawed the shift is they now can’t play Wilmer at 2b very much. Doesn’t have the range for it but did when the shift cut down on the area a guy had to cover. So you have JD and Wilmer and Wade all needing to be in the lineup along with Joc but they don’t want to play Wade in the OF, nor do they want Joc out there meaning that often one of the guys is sitting
 
Mark Canha was traded for a minor leaguer Justin Jarvis who is not in the Brewers top 30 prospects list….unless I’m completely missing him. Canha actually fits what SF does with his ability to walk AND he has ability to play 1b.
He’s just one example but I’d guess we would have had other opportunities.

I do think Farhan has given Kapler a good roster in general with the emphasis on platooning. If you look at the roster as everyday players, then no, it doesn’t look good but as platoon guys, it’s pretty good, not great but good…..he’s using the Tampa method here. A guy like Canha >>>> Pollock which is absurd at this point in time. Maybe Pollock shows out.

I was definitely looking for arms though. I wasn’t looking for middle infielders. But I did think we needed an OFer.
One of the issues with the roster after they outlawed the shift is they now can’t play Wilmer at 2b very much. Doesn’t have the range for it but did when the shift cut down on the area a guy had to cover. So you have JD and Wilmer and Wade all needing to be in the lineup along with Joc but they don’t want to play Wade in the OF, nor do they want Joc out there meaning that often one of the guys is sitting
Canha is a great call, forgot he got moved. And he fits what we like to do as well with his defensive versatility. Just a better hitter too.
 

dude12

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Another win when they get zilch on the offensive side. Tristan Beck with the bulk innings and doing a great job once again. A good series win…..I really like the DBacks team’s talent, they have done a great job of building with young talent
 

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Letting Gausman back-fired bigtime, but the early returns on letting Rodon go look FANTASTIC
I was fine with both. Good for Gausman keeping it up. It seemed like he was getting close to being figured out by the league by the end of the Giants run. Wasn’t bad necessarily, but lots of people were just waiting out the split and he wasn’t quite the ace at the end.