Maloofs to ask NBA for extension on relocation deadline

I don't detect a lot of interest in trying to do something. About three or four people. Is that the extent of it? It's not something that will work on a small scale. A lot of people say something should be done but I think they are hoping someone else will do it.

I disagree Glenn. There are a lot of people listening, and wanting to do something. Its just that many of them have never been the leaders of something like this. But if someone will come up with a plan that everyone can participate in, I think you will be surprised by the response. Just look at the response to selling out the last game. There are motivated people out there, you just have to give them an instrument to work with.
 
http://blogs.sacbee.com/city-beat/2...-uncertain-what-can-dcs-history-teach-us.html

This part at the end says it all about this not being about Maloof's:


Have you studied the situation here? If so, what advice would you give based on your experience?


There are several things that need to change and change quickly if we really want to get a first-class entertainment/sports complex in Sacramento and keep the Kings here

First and foremost, people need to understand that this is not about the Maloofs; it's about our community. Regardless of what happens to the Kings, Sacramento needs a new venue for entertainment and sports. As I've said on many occasions: Why should the citizens of the capital of a state with one of the largest economies in the world have to take their children to Stockton or San Jose if they want to see the circus or Disney on Ice? Furthermore, as we proved in DC, a new arena with a major league team can bring enormous economic benefits to the community.

Second, the support by the media and the business community for a new arena is disappointing. And we've heard next to nothing from the Chamber of Commerce. That won't cut it.

I work for a union representing low-wage homecare providers and elderly and disabled Californians, so I am not oblivious to the fact that there are other pressing needs in our community. And if I thought that the money--mostly private funds--that would go toward a new arena could be used instead to help the poor and sick in our community, I might oppose an arena myself.

But that will not happen. The only thing our failure to build a new arena will mean for Sacramento is more unemployment, more urban blight, and perhaps an even higher ranking on Forbes Magazine's "misery" index.
 
Don't know if its been posted, but there are some interesting little tidbits from Carmichael Dave's twitter.

http://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave#


Saw that to. Pretty interesting stuff. I didn't see the press conference, but read what KJ said, and my immediate reaction was that that can't possible help the situation. Sounds like the Maloofs are paying attention to what the fans are doing, I really hope they show up to the game on monday.

Can't understand what KJ was thinking. Sounds like ego. I'm hearing the Maloofs are beyond unhappy, and were really stoked about the fans.

Cont: Maloofs have been really pleased with fan involvement. Hearing they were planning on going to monday's game, now not so much.

I'll have a piece out tomorrow detailing more of what I'm hearing, in the meantime: the blogs, signs, and pleas are NOT going unnoticed.
 
I disagree Glenn. There are a lot of people listening, and wanting to do something. Its just that many of them have never been the leaders of something like this. But if someone will come up with a plan that everyone can participate in, I think you will be surprised by the response. Just look at the response to selling out the last game. There are motivated people out there, you just have to give them an instrument to work with.

I came up with a plan. No interest. It takes work. It takes energy. I will provide most of the energy. I sent my first email to the City Council this morning.
 
Here's what I wrote. I wrote it quickly and it might not be great but I did something. I have already posted a list of all the City Council members email addresses.


Council member:

Pardon the somewhat impersonality of a group addressed email.

I have a bias. I moved here from Minneapolis 30 years ago after a stint in the Navy. There is an amazing difference between Minneapolis and Sacramento. Minneapolis has four major sports and three arenas to house them. In their history since they lost the Lakers, they have had an ABA basketball team, three hockey teams (at one time they had two at once), a baseball team, an NBA team, and a football team. Somehow they find the way to build facilities for all of them. They have marvelous museums, concert halls for their world class orchestra and theaters for plays. Somehow they get done what Sacramento cannot accomplish.

Minneapolis is a desirable place to live in. There is much to do. There is a feeling of civic pride. There is much to look forward to. Minneapolis is a big city with a big city attitude. They have big business which is non-existent is Sacramento.

If Sacramento wishes to remain "small" in its attitude, go no further, delete this email, and go about what you were doing. If Sacramento wants to be something different, if it wants to be a place where people want to be and businesses wish to set down roots, read on as you have at least one person who wants the same.

This issue is about an arena. I don't want to go to San Francisco to see a play or a concert or athletic event, etc., etc. I want it here. An arena will keep us on the national map and international map as the home of the Kings. It also will make money. This is the part that people miss. All people can think is that is will cost money. I think it is the opposite. Prince just had concerts in Oakland. Two concerts were scheduled and they sold out so fast, a third concert was scheduled. Prince wouldn't come to Sacramento. That's an example. How about Cirque de Soleil as an example? They can't use the present arena. This arena is now no longer good enough for the NCAA. It will never host an All Star game. These events make money for everyone in the area. Conventions will bypass this city. Heck, they already do.

These events draw people to the area ........ and money.

Without the Kings, the logical tenant for a new arena, businesses will leave or most certainly will scratch off Sacramento as a place to settle or expand. Lobbyists and others like to reward their clients with tickets. An arena means more jobs, it means more taxes, and it means that difficult to quantify concept of pride. PRIDE. I'm from Sacramento and I am proud of it. I don't want to returm to saying, "I'm from Sacramento and am close to San Francisco and Lake Tahoe."

Lack of an arena is a loss in the eyes of many. The nation and the rest of the world are watching. As an aside, people tell stories of Europeans lighting up when they hear you are from the home of the Kings.

Our city is ranked low by Forbes. It will now go lower.

There are people in this area who understand what I am saying but most see it as a con job. Sacramento residents are a suspicious lot. Right now they are suspicious of the 51% owners of the Kings, the Maloofs. 51%! Most people think they own the whole team. Not so. Cook, Benvenutti, etc. are part owners. People who have lived in the area and love the area.

Find a way to build an arena and don't kick the responsibility down the road. The time is now. Think hard. The arena in Orlando is owned by Orlando. It was funded by a bond issue. All income from the arena, signage, parking, etc. goes to the city. I believe it is the same in Anaheim with a billionaire managing the facility. Arenas are a source of income for a city. They are a source of entertainment (and money). They are a source of pride.

Sacramento will now maintain its reputation as a cow town with a basketball team or drop to simply a cow town.

I believe past efforts have failed because in part a lack of support by the city council. Please support an arena and let it be known. Praise the idea of an arena. Go public. Erase misconceptions. People have a strange idea of what is going on that a dose of truth would help. Be proud.

Glenn
 
I thought the best part was this:
One of our most successful tactics was to remind baseball fans that their hopes of getting another baseball team in DC would be dashed if the city were to lose yet another major league sports team (the Caps). As a result, even non-hockey fans joined our Save the Caps campaign.
There are a lot of people that for whatever reason think the NBA is small potatoes and that NFL and MLB are superior and Sac will get one of those some day. Fat chance if the Kings leave.
 
Bajaden, I presume you didn't see my spit balling list of ideas. It all has to do with emails. It has to do with contacting as many people as possible on a local and national level and sending them messages from as many people as possible and more than once. It would take research but first it takes fleshing out. It takes an agrement that people like the idea. It may not be any good and my ego is solid. If it is no good, we move to another idea. Or have many ideas going at once. I DO think there needs to be a leader of each point of attack.

Brick is coming up with some email addresses. So far it is two of us. That note was a start of one idea. There are other approaches but because I am housebound and retired, this way suits me. It would be ironic if a 66 year old man with a bad back has more energy than the young studs on this forum. Perhaps even a bit sad.
 
I thought the best part was this:

There are a lot of people that for whatever reason think the NBA is small potatoes and that NFL and MLB are superior and Sac will get one of those some day. Fat chance if the Kings leave.

Historically this is true. NBA used to show one game on late Friday nights and that was it. That ended in the mid 60's I believe. I remember staying up late to see that one game a week. That's probably why my eyes got injured.
 
I don't detect a lot of interest in trying to do something. About three or four people. Is that the extent of it? It's not something that will work on a small scale. A lot of people say something should be done but I think they are hoping someone else will do it.

I think trying to get a ton of interest from this website will be hard. As many Kings fans as there are, ALOT more of them visit sites like Facebook and Twitter. That is where most of the rallying and planning has to come from. The Facebook group for "Here We Stay" has over 2,500 'likes'. And the Twitter account for it has over 800 followers.

Not to mention you can contact the maloofs directly through twitter. Keep sending them messages, call in on local radio shows to get the word out. Go to the sacbee website and just post links to everything related to keeping the Kings in Sac ..

We need to reach people who arent members of this site. I think everyone here is already doing what they can, or at least they already know what they can do. We need to get new people involved.
 
I think trying to get a ton of interest from this website will be hard. As many Kings fans as there are, ALOT more of them visit sites like Facebook and Twitter. That is where most of the rallying and planning has to come from. The Facebook group for "Here We Stay" has over 2,500 'likes'. And the Twitter account for it has over 800 followers.

Not to mention you can contact the maloofs directly through twitter. Keep sending them messages, call in on local radio shows to get the word out. Go to the sacbee website and just post links to everything related to keeping the Kings in Sac ..

We need to reach people who arent members of this site. I think everyone here is already doing what they can, or at least they already know what they can do. We need to get new people involved.

Actually my plan included Facebook but a multi-pronged attack is great. I don't tweet.

Need to find people on Facebook and Twitter that possibly could make a difference. Who's going to look?

So ...

#1 People on this forum write to each council member, Board of Supervisors, and the mayor. Who else locally?

#2 Find people on Facebook who are announcers and the like and write messages. Do I have that correctly?

#3 Twitter. Get a list of addresses of people who can make a difference. Who will do it?

#4 The Maloofs need to know what we are doing. It'll make them feel good and as some one said, they are an emotional group of people. As I think this deal hangs on a thread and could go either way, our input and others might make a difference at least to buy an extra year.

#5 Organized movement at Feb 28 game

#6 Follow @saveourkings on Twitter

#7 Save Our Kings and Here We Stay on Facebook



I am shutting this down. No on has contributed which I think is a good indicator that no one will contribute when it really counts. Perhaps it was a stupid idea but no one had the decency to even tell me that.
 
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Will the Here We Stay group be allowed to set up tables at the arena, in or outside for the 28th game?

Since many people are motivated to come to this game just to make a statement it seems like getting sign up lists for potential activists to show up at the next round of council meetings would be key.
 
Next Monday's game is sold out and now they are selling standing room and Cantina lounge tickets. I would say that shows that the Here We Stay and other groups are hitting home with the fans that were sleeping on this. I don't think the City Council is on the fence on getting a new arena. I honestly think they are deeply involved with trying to work out something. I don't know where the county supervisors are, but they are the ones that need to get involved because the car rental tax is a big item for the airport. Reading the tea leaves here, I am pretty darn sure that the Sac City Council is on board with offering land, "toursit" and other misc. taxes that hit people who will be drawn downtown for entertainment and dining. The County needs to step on board because their citizens are affected by this too. They can do a sharing of the tax increase and there is something in it for them. If you want to write emails, start with the County Supevisors and get the message to them. And just an FYI, they are in loop according to the mayor and have had discussions. So county residents, hit them up and let them know you support them getting involved.

http://www.bos.saccounty.net/default.htm
 
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Next Monday's game is sold out and now they are selling standing room and Cantina lounge tickets. I would say that shows that the Here We Stay and other groups are hitting home with the fans that were sleeping on this. I don't think the City Council is on the fence on getting a new arena. I honestly think they are deeply involved with trying to work out something. I don't know where the county supervisors are, but they are the ones that need to get involved because the car rental tax is a big item for the airport. Reading the tea leaves here, I am pretty darn sure that the Sac City Council is on board with offering land, "toursit" and other misc. taxes that hit people who will be drawn downtown for entertainment and dining. The County needs to step on board because their citizens are affected by this too. They can do a sharing of the tax increase and there is something in it for them. If you want to write emails, start with the County Supevisors and get the message to them. And just an FYI, they are in loop according to the mayor and have had discussions. So county residents, hit them up and let them know you support them getting involved.

http://www.bos.saccounty.net/default.htm
I plan on spending my weekend sending lots of e-mails. I actuallysent one to the Maloofs yesterday. Told them I'd be willing to add some bucks to build an arena, too.
 
Here's what I wrote. I wrote it quickly and it might not be great but I did something. I have already posted a list of all the City Council members email addresses.


Council member:

Pardon the somewhat impersonality of a group addressed email.

I have a bias. I moved here from Minneapolis 30 years ago after a stint in the Navy. There is an amazing difference between Minneapolis and Sacramento. Minneapolis has four major sports and three arenas to house them. In their history since they lost the Lakers, they have had an ABA basketball team, three hockey teams (at one time they had two at once), a baseball team, an NBA team, and a football team. Somehow they find the way to build facilities for all of them. They have marvelous museums, concert halls for their world class orchestra and theaters for plays. Somehow they get done what Sacramento cannot accomplish.

Minneapolis is a desirable place to live in. There is much to do. There is a feeling of civic pride. There is much to look forward to. Minneapolis is a big city with a big city attitude. They have big business which is non-existent is Sacramento.

If Sacramento wishes to remain "small" in its attitude, go no further, delete this email, and go about what you were doing. If Sacramento wants to be something different, if it wants to be a place where people want to be and businesses wish to set down roots, read on as you have at least one person who wants the same.

This issue is about an arena. I don't want to go to San Francisco to see a play or a concert or athletic event, etc., etc. I want it here. An arena will keep us on the national map and international map as the home of the Kings. It also will make money. This is the part that people miss. All people can think is that is will cost money. I think it is the opposite. Prince just had concerts in Oakland. Two concerts were scheduled and they sold out so fast, a third concert was scheduled. Prince wouldn't come to Sacramento. That's an example. How about Cirque de Soleil as an example? They can't use the present arena. This arena is now no longer good enough for the NCAA. It will never host an All Star game. These events make money for everyone in the area. Conventions will bypass this city. Heck, they already do.

These events draw people to the area ........ and money.

Without the Kings, the logical tenant for a new arena, businesses will leave or most certainly will scratch off Sacramento as a place to settle or expand. Lobbyists and others like to reward their clients with tickets. An arena means more jobs, it means more taxes, and it means that difficult to quantify concept of pride. PRIDE. I'm from Sacramento and I am proud of it. I don't want to returm to saying, "I'm from Sacramento and am close to San Francisco and Lake Tahoe."

Lack of an arena is a loss in the eyes of many. The nation and the rest of the world are watching. As an aside, people tell stories of Europeans lighting up when they hear you are from the home of the Kings.

Our city is ranked low by Forbes. It will now go lower.

There are people in this area who understand what I am saying but most see it as a con job. Sacramento residents are a suspicious lot. Right now they are suspicious of the 51% owners of the Kings, the Maloofs. 51%! Most people think they own the whole team. Not so. Cook, Benvenutti, etc. are part owners. People who have lived in the area and love the area.

Find a way to build an arena and don't kick the responsibility down the road. The time is now. Think hard. The arena in Orlando is owned by Orlando. It was funded by a bond issue. All income from the arena, signage, parking, etc. goes to the city. I believe it is the same in Anaheim with a billionaire managing the facility. Arenas are a source of income for a city. They are a source of entertainment (and money). They are a source of pride.

Sacramento will now maintain its reputation as a cow town with a basketball team or drop to simply a cow town.

I believe past efforts have failed because in part a lack of support by the city council. Please support an arena and let it be known. Praise the idea of an arena. Go public. Erase misconceptions. People have a strange idea of what is going on that a dose of truth would help. Be proud.

Glenn

Great letter/post. I strongly share your experiences and views.
 
I'm trying to put together a list of Twitter accounts and would like any that are pertinent like Crandell, Carmichael Dave. A list will be in one spot. I'd also like someone else to do this. If you go back a few notes you will see I am organizing email addresses, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
 
I think trying to get a ton of interest from this website will be hard. As many Kings fans as there are, ALOT more of them visit sites like Facebook and Twitter. That is where most of the rallying and planning has to come from. The Facebook group for "Here We Stay" has over 2,500 'likes'. And the Twitter account for it has over 800 followers.

Not to mention you can contact the maloofs directly through twitter. Keep sending them messages, call in on local radio shows to get the word out. Go to the sacbee website and just post links to everything related to keeping the Kings in Sac ..

We need to reach people who arent members of this site. I think everyone here is already doing what they can, or at least they already know what they can do. We need to get new people involved.

I'm confused. The Facebook page I heard of has 106 likes. Is there another?
 
I ran into a semi inside source tonight. Bob Cook is lobbying hard to keep the team here. Also, it appears the ownership group will vote on the move. So if the maloofs are dividedd on their side it could swing a stay vote.
 
I ran into a semi inside source tonight. Bob Cook is lobbying hard to keep the team here. Also, it appears the ownership group will vote on the move. So if the maloofs are dividedd on their side it could swing a stay vote.

Minority owners always want to stay. What majority owners want is what they usually get. The minority owners usually either just go along, or they sell out to new minority owners in the new market. I doubt there is a shortage of that in OC.
 
LEGALLY, majority owners get their way. These are long time partners and include at least one that brought the team from Kansas City (Benvenutti). They aren't cold blooded and have no feelings. I think they need to sit down and hash a few things out. This has to be a crushing blow to Cook and Benvenutti at the least and I don't think the Maloofs will ignore that. It may very well mean they will sell their percentage but they at least have to chat. It may not change a thing. On the other hand, it is good news if even minor.

I've been a majority partner with a couple froends. I consulted them. I didn't do what they didn't want me to do. I just did all the work.
 
Minority owners always want to stay. What majority owners want is what they usually get. The minority owners usually either just go along, or they sell out to new minority owners in the new market. I doubt there is a shortage of that in OC.

Hmmm, maybe that answers my question about where the incentive is for Samueli to do this deal. He could very well be the guy who buys a minority interest in the team and with profit being a sure thing in the early going, especially with a new cba in place, his Duck losses would be offset.
 
Yes, but the question then becomes how is the Maloof majority broken down? What if they they have a mixed vote between the 5 of them?

It would surprise me but who knows, they are all individuals. THAT would be interesting if there is a little family squabble going on.
 
Yes, but the question then becomes how is the Maloof majority broken down? What if they they have a mixed vote between the 5 of them?

Chances of that being the case?! VERY remote!

If Mamma Maloof says they are moving to Anaheim, then they are moving to Anaheim! No doubt about that.
 
Chances of that being the case?! VERY remote!

If Mamma Maloof says they are moving to Anaheim, then they are moving to Anaheim! No doubt about that.

What if Mamma Maloof wants them to stay here? The problem is that we still have no facts.
 
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