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I put it in bold because I don't even know what it means, unless you actually were inferring what I presumed you were inferring.
 
In general I'm throwing in with piksi here. I went to the game where he got boo'd. I saw the rest of the games on TV. The team was nowhere near as good as a team when Webber returned (in general, specific games - yes).

I agree that he should have sat out until the next year. I also think the Kings would have had a better record than they did after Webber returned. Does this mean they win it all? No, but I think they would have been a better "team". I don't think they would have done any worse.

His return was just botched and it threw the team in a tailspin. Now they may not have gone any farther in the PO without him, but I thought they should have tried. That team was cohesive and having fun. After Webber's return, not so much.
 
Warhawk said:
In general I'm throwing in with piksi here. I went to the game where he got boo'd. I saw the rest of the games on TV. The team was nowhere near as good as a team when Webber returned (in general, specific games - yes).

I agree that he should have sat out until the next year. I also think the Kings would have had a better record than they did after Webber returned. Does this mean they win it all? No, but I think they would have been a better "team". I don't think they would have done any worse.

His return was just botched and it threw the team in a tailspin. Now they may not have gone any farther in the PO without him, but I thought they should have tried. That team was cohesive and having fun. After Webber's return, not so much.
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We were well pased the "let's be cohesive and have fun la la la" stage of our ascension at that point. It was title or bust. Title or failure. Webb was the key to that title. Our soft and flashy weenies would have died in Rnd 2 without Webb anyway -- the hope all season long was ALWAYS that the soft and flashies would get back their big PF and boom! Best in the league. Did not work out that way, but it was the shot that had to be taken.
 
Warhawk said:
In general I'm throwing in with piksi here. I went to the game where he got boo'd. I saw the rest of the games on TV. The team was nowhere near as good as a team when Webber returned (in general, specific games - yes).
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This statement is not incongruous with my position. I am not claiming that Webber's return didn't muck up the chemistry and make the team worse. What I am claiming is that the team wasn't really *that* good to begin with. I am claiming that their success was the result of a beneficial schedule, and that claims of the Kings being the best team in the league before Webber came back are overblown to the point of being fabricated.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
This statement is not incongruous with my position. I am not claiming that Webber's return didn't muck up the chemistry and make the team worse. What I am claiming is that the team wasn't really *that* good to begin with. I am claiming that their success was the result of a beneficial schedule, and that claims of the Kings being the best team in the league before Webber came back are overblown to the point of being fabricated.
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No, I get you, but I think you are going a bit overboard with this. They were a good team with a good record. After Webber came back they went downhill a bit. I don't think anyone thought the record was totally reflective of the team, but I don't think they were as mediocre as you paint them, either....and I think they would have been a better team in the PO if Webber had just sat out. Hey, I may be 100% wrong (and according to Brick I'm probably an idiot for thinking this ;) ), but that is my recollection looking back at everything.

I think they knew their roles and were playing well and that all got jumbled up with Webber's return (the way it was handled, whoever's fault that was....another discussion for another time, or maybe never as that horse has been beat already).
 
Bricklayer said:
We were well pased the "let's be cohesive and have fun la la la" stage of our ascension at that point. It was title or bust. Title or failure. Webb was the key to that title. Our soft and flashy weenies would have died in Rnd 2 without Webb anyway -- the hope all season long was ALWAYS that the soft and flashies would get back their big PF and boom! Best in the league. Did not work out that way, but it was the shot that had to be taken.
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Yeah, I know, except that was for a healthy Webber, not what we got back when he returned.
 
Warhawk said:
I think they knew their roles and were playing well and that all got jumbled up with Webber's return (the way it was handled, whoever's fault that was....another discussion for another time, or maybe never as that horse has been beat already).
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Also the players in that locker room knew how "healthy" Webber was. Things can be hidden for the public view but You can't fool Your teammates who play with You for years. I think that none of them ever believed that Webber could help at that moment. And worst of all - a guy who deserves the most credit for getting the Kings to the top - got deservedly booed from the crowd that idolized him. If that wasn't a sign to "shut him down" - don't know what else could be.
 
I would imagine the knees are alot harder to get over than a thumb. i don't expect mike to be to rusty i do however expect kevin to be tentative about the high jumps until he knows for sure it won't happen again.
 
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I would imagine the knees are alot harder to get over than a thumb. i don't expect mike to be to rusty i do however expect kevin to be tentative about the high jumps until he knows for sure it won't happen again.
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it is not as much about body parts as it is about lack of match praxis
 
Okay, back to the topic at hand...

Tonight's game should be fun! I sincerely hope to see #23 in uniform and out there on the court.

:)
 
if howard will play well we will, probably, lose the game..maybe moore will play the match of his life and sacto will beat the magic..but i don't think that it will happen
 
VF21 said:
Tonight's game should be fun! I sincerely hope to see #23 in uniform and out there on the court.

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Indeed! If the Flying Platypus is back tonight we should at the least see a more potent offense than we have been since he's been out...our offense has been sporadic, at best, without him...very predictable. Anyone heard any news on Mr. Bibby?
 
I guess the Bee mentioned these issues this morning. Salmons twisted his ankle in practice yesterday, but was listed as "probable". Miller sat out practice because he was sick, but was expected to play tonight. Don't know if the status for either has changed through the day today.

NOTE: The information can be found in the Kings News Links forum. - VF21
 
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Okay, you have to stop the turnovers. Three in first 3 minutes is gonna kill us.
 
DH is playing alone - which is a good sign.

We "only" have 4 turnovers in the first 6 minutes - that might be a bad sign
 
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