[Game] Kings vs. Cavaliers, 11/13/2023 7pm Pacific 10pm Eastern

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Caccia

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Since Mike Brown wants a true defensive squad, he should start:

Davion Mitchell
Keon Ellis
Kessler Edwards
Trey Lyles (when available)
Alex Len

This would solve all our defensive problems in one fell swoop. The scoring he can leave to the bench. It's all a matter of priorities.
 
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Caccia said:
Since Mike Brown wants a true defensive squad, he should start:

Davion Mitchell
Keon Ellis
Kessler Edwards
Trey Lyles (when available)
Alex Len

This would solve all our defensive problems in one fell swoop. The scoring he can leave to the bench. It's all a matter of priorities.
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I would much rather we NOT substitute a lot of offense for virtually no offense at all.
 
ShastaKingsFan

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Caccia said:
Since Mike Brown wants a true defensive squad, he should start:

Davion Mitchell
Keon Ellis
Kessler Edwards
Trey Lyles (when available)
Alex Len

This would solve all our defensive problems in one fell swoop. The scoring he can leave to the bench. It's all a matter of priorities.
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I would use that lineup in a spot situation for a must have defensive stop. Of course they would never start as a group
 
Section 101

Section 101

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Caccia said:
Since Mike Brown wants a true defensive squad, he should start:

Davion Mitchell
Keon Ellis
Kessler Edwards
Trey Lyles (when available)
Alex Len

This would solve all our defensive problems in one fell swoop. The scoring he can leave to the bench. It's all a matter of priorities.
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This is what a lot of people don't understand. You can have the best defensive players on the planet on the floor, but if the offensive is turning the ball over or not hitting shots it won't matter because the other team will be in transition the whole game.
 
Vinny Basketballerino

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Section 101 said:
This is what a lot of people don't understand. You can have the best defensive players on the planet on the floor, but if the offensive is turning the ball over or not hitting shots it won't matter because the other team will be in transition the whole game.
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One reason why Adelman's squads were top 1-2 in defensive FG% (the truest single measure of defensive effectiveness imo).
 
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SLAB said:
I really really really hope that Keon stays in the rotation with Fox back. Sry, Davion.
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I think 30 minutes in the OKC game with Brown trusting him to take the SGA assignment says a lot about his confidence in Keon right now. I'd be surprised if he got booted to the end of the bench. He absolutely shouldn't be with how well he played defensively and how bad we've been on defense historically.
 
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Caccia

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Vinny Basketballerino said:
If management is anywhere near as deep into analytics as they appear - that +/- stat simply cannot be ignored.
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We have only played eight games. Currently, only six guys have a positive +- per 36 minutes (to compare starters with bench). Keon is sixth at +4.2 The worst three? Barnes (-5.1), Sabonis (-6.1), Mitchell (-13.5). I would give it another ten or twelve games to make any real comparisons.
 
Vinny Basketballerino

Vinny Basketballerino

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Caccia said:
Where can I find that stat? In opponents' EFG%, the Kings are now 21st at 55.3%. The Timberwolves are first at 47.9%. I would be surprised if that lasts a whole season.
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Was referring to the Adelman times - around 200 AD, roughly 275 years before the fall of Rome. Before the Rocks changed their name to the Rockets and moved from Petra to Houston.
 
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Vinny Basketballerino

Vinny Basketballerino

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Caccia said:
We have only played eight games. Currently, only six guys have a positive +- per 36 minutes (to compare starters with bench). Keon is sixth at +4.2 The worst three? Barnes (-5.1), Sabonis (-6.1), Mitchell (-13.5). I would give it another ten or twelve games to make any real comparisons.
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That's fair - but I'm all for giving Keon the majority of Davion's minutes so we can have that comparison. We have quite a bit of data on Davion already.
 
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The_Jamal

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https://twitter.com/statuses/1724238533769244968

uh what? He's been like negative versatility on defense this year lol.

Offensively, he's honestly been mostly fine, outside this last game. Non-aggressive as usual, but been very very efficient virtually every game out there. It's the lack of lateral quickness defensively and the ability to stay with anyone on the perimeter that's been a real problem. It started showing a bit last year, but it's been god awful this year
 
ockingsfan

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The_Jamal said:
https://twitter.com/statuses/1724238533769244968

uh what? He's been like negative versatility on defense this year lol.

Offensively, he's honestly been mostly fine, outside this last game. Non-aggressive as usual, but been very very efficient virtually every game out there. It's the lack of lateral quickness defensively and the ability to stay with anyone on the perimeter that's been a real problem. It started showing a bit last year, but it's been god awful this year
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind coach Brown starting Trey Lyles at the stretch 4 when he gets back and healthy. HB off the bench as the backup SF/PF makes a lot of sense.
 
Bfreeman

Bfreeman

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They didn’t really want to resign Barnes. He does have upside but, it seems like after that opening game he feels like he’s done his part. It’s weird cause when he wants it he really has that high percentage iso game that we need during the 2nd or 3rd quarter lull. Is it fear with HB? When he tries he’s great, he really is a mystery to me.
 
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