Kings trading 7th in larger deal?

[SacTownKid]

I highly doubt we see the Kings doing any "cost cutting" and moving a top 7 pick to do so. The Maloofs have said everything possible to the contrary, if they went back on their word now wel.... there is no rope left to hang themselves with, they used it all up with their 9 lives to boot.

 

['89 Kings Fan]

I went into the chat the guy was having and he says... "Sacramentio is willing to move 7 and have talked about moving it with Garcia and Udrih and have been approached by other teams trying to get up and get targeted players" I followed up asking him to why they would want to move picks and he resounded by saying "the Kings financial woes have them possibly moving those bloated contracts" Sounds really legit....

Unless in the CBA negotiations they reduce the minimum salary, how can you "Cut Costs" when you already below the minimum? Last season we had to trade for a guy with a neck injury (Marquis Daniels) just to make the minumum. I doubt also the other 29 teams will be interested in helping the Maloofs save money by negotiating lower minumum salary requirements. They more interested in a hard cap and reducing player salary % of income. The only way that makes sense is if we trade for an injured player whose deal is already being paid by insurance. (Marquis Daniels, again)

 

[joemama]

Portland wants Kemba Walker

Portland has made it clear for some time now that they want Kemba Walker. Now that Fredette is doing wonderful and teams aren't really taking walker that serious Portland feels more comfortable that Walker will fall to #7.

Portland will do what they always do and make 7 trades on draft day. They will get close enough for kings to draft fredette, its a win-win.

Kings #7 Donte/Omri, Garcia
Portland (top 12 Fredette), Gerald Wallace

Kings get rid of Garcia get their SF problem solved resign Dally and Thorton and look beastly with Fredette and Wallace

Evans/Udrih/Pooh?
*Thorton/Fredette
Wallace/Donte
Cousins/Thompson
*Dalembert/Nikola Vucevic or Nikola Mirotic/Whiteside

* would have to sign
I could see us signing Marc Gasol if Dally goes somewhere else.

Portland saves money, get what they covet by moving up to get Kemba Walker, waive Garcia under new CBA because they already have Batuum and Omri

Walker/AndreMiller/Rudy Fernandez
Roy/Matthews/Garcia
Batuum/Omri
Aldridge/*Oberto
Camby/Oden

*would have to sign

 

[joemama]

Rebounders

With a starting line of Evans, Thorton, Wallace, Cousins, and Dalembert we would be the best rebounders, and I wouldn't feel too bad if we lost Omri's shooting when Fredette comes in. Garcia can't hit a three when we need him to, at least Omri could pick the team up and hit big threes. Plus Garcia is always hurt!

 

[joemama]

Hints

First hint was Portland "staffer" saying Petrie started Rumor of Kemba to Portland. His name was Casey Holdahl.

Then Kerry Eggers of the Portland Tribune reported that the Blazers are interested in moving into the top seven to pick up Kemba Walker, and said people should consider "the source" when it comes to rumors.

So Portland started a rumor, and then said we didn't start that rumor, but look at all the attention it got. Also, no matter how retarded their method was it planted the seed!


http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2011/...etrie-started-portland-kemba-walker#storyjump

 

[Tetsujin]

Portland has made it clear for some time now that they want Kemba Walker. Now that Fredette is doing wonderful and teams aren't really taking walker that serious Portland feels more comfortable that Walker will fall to #7.

Portland will do what they always do and make 7 trades on draft day. They will get close enough for kings to draft fredette, its a win-win.

Kings #7 Donte/Omri, Garcia
Portland (top 12 Fredette), Gerald Wallace

Kings get rid of Garcia get their SF problem solved resign Dally and Thorton and look beastly with Fredette and Wallace

Evans/Udrih/Pooh?
*Thorton/Fredette
Wallace/Donte
Cousins/Thompson
*Dalembert/Nikola Vucevic or Nikola Mirotic/Whiteside

* would have to sign
I could see us signing Marc Gasol if Dally goes somewhere else.

Portland saves money, get what they covet by moving up to get Kemba Walker, waive Garcia under new CBA because they already have Batuum and Omri

Walker/AndreMiller/Rudy Fernandez
Roy/Matthews/Garcia
Batuum/Omri
Aldridge/*Oberto
Camby/Oden

*would have to sign

I seriously doubt Portland would trade GW for the right to move up 5 picks in the draft. AND as a special added bonus, they get to take on another bloated injury-prone swingman contract to fatten the albatross that is Roy's contract. Makes absolutely no sense for them on any level other than the Paul-Allen-had-to-hire-a-crackhead-as-GM-because-he-already-fired-everyone-else level.

And signing Gasol if we lose Dalembert? How the hell does that help compensate for our lost defense and rebounding at all?

 

[ElRey]

Hm. I have an entire website devoted to Sacramento Kings news and info as part of my source. I also follow Donte Greene, Tyreke Evans, and Cobra Commander on Twitter. I think I have just as good a chance of delivering inside information at this point in time.

spike, what's your website?

 

[ElRey]

First hint was Portland "staffer" saying Petrie started Rumor of Kemba to Portland. His name was Casey Holdahl.

Then Kerry Eggers of the Portland Tribune reported that the Blazers are interested in moving into the top seven to pick up Kemba Walker, and said people should consider "the source" when it comes to rumors.

So Portland started a rumor, and then said we didn't start that rumor, but look at all the attention it got. Also, no matter how retarded their method was it planted the seed!


http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2011/...etrie-started-portland-kemba-walker#storyjump

#7 for Batum straight up!

 

[Spike]

spike, what's your website?

Shh....

This one. <--- Best one on the net. Most of the sources are pretty good, but there are a few crackheads on here.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Then Kerry Eggers of the Portland Tribune reported that the Blazers are interested in moving into the top seven to pick up Kemba Walker, and said people should consider "the source" when it comes to rumors.

Hey, that's the 3rd most popular weekly paper in town you're questioning there!

 

[Dime Dropper]

#7 for Batum straight up!

I think I'd prefer to just take Vesely than trade the pick for Batum.

 

[joemama]

I like Batuum

But it is a contract year for Batuum. That is the only reason why I wouldn't trade for the #7 straight up.

 

[joemama]

I seriously doubt Portland would trade GW for the right to move up 5 picks in the draft. AND as a special added bonus, they get to take on another bloated injury-prone swingman contract to fatten the albatross that is Roy's contract. Makes absolutely no sense for them on any level other than the Paul-Allen-had-to-hire-a-crackhead-as-GM-because-he-already-fired-everyone-else level.

And signing Gasol if we lose Dalembert? How the hell does that help compensate for our lost defense and rebounding at all?

I said after new CBA you can waive useless contracts like Garcia, this is how Portland would save money!

 

[AleksandarN]

I said after new CBA you can waive useless contracts like Garcia, this is how Portland would save money!

They would not do it. I would think they would rather waive Roy than getting Garcia just to waive him.

 

[Spike]

I said after new CBA you can waive useless contracts like Garcia, this is how Portland would save money!

But I heard in the new CBA, you can restructure every contract in order to get under the hard cap, so it wouldn't work anyway.

 

[SacKings7]

I said after new CBA you can waive useless contracts like Garcia, this is how Portland would save money!

Unfortunately, I don't think you get to decide what the stipulations are in the new CBA

 

[joemama]

Unfortunately, I don't think you get to decide what the stipulations are in the new CBA

I am not deciding, the new CBA will decide! Nevermind jerk-offs!

You guys are an overwhelming amount of negative energy, anytime a good idea comes negative comments fill the thread!

 

[SacKings7]

I am not deciding, the new CBA will decide! Nevermind jerk-offs!

You guys are an overwhelming amount of negative energy, anytime a good idea comes negative comments fill the thread!

I don't think it's realistic but I like your idea. I just don't see the point in making up fantasy stipulations for the new CBA just to make a potential trade seem logical for the other team

 

[rainmaker]

I am not deciding, the new CBA will decide! Nevermind jerk-offs!

You guys are an overwhelming amount of negative energy, anytime a good idea comes negative comments fill the thread!

What is the point of getting our hopes up, or even considering something which has little chance of happening? You're talking about amnesty, which would only happen if a hard cap not only went into place, but was inforced immediately. Fat chance of that happening.

 

[Tetsujin]

I said after new CBA you can waive useless contracts like Garcia, this is how Portland would save money!

Where do unicorns and bigfoot come in?

 

[Spike]

You guys are an overwhelming amount of negative energy, anytime a good idea comes negative comments fill the thread!

Not anytime, but at times we do ask for logic and reality to play a key role in trade ideas. They have to work, at least mathematically, to get rid of the naysayers that will poke all the holes in your idea. That said, I still don't think it's a good idea. We need Dalembert more than we need Gasol.

 

[kingsboi]

I want to first see how the first 6 picks play out before we consider trading the pick. You never know who could drop to us, after we get our player then we can discuss a trade if something intriguing is out there.

 

[bajaden]

Where do unicorns and bigfoot come in?

Ask Frodo!

 

[jalfa]

Why the heck would you want Batum in the first place much less give up a top 10 pick for him? He averaged 8 points and 1 rebound in 25 minutes last year. Heck even Casspi put up better numbers last year.

More like 12/4.5/1.5 in 31 minutes with pretty good defense and showing nice development to boot. He may be a little overhyped, but there's no question whatsoever that he's better than anything we have right now and will probably be better than most of the SFs in the draft as well.

 

[ElRey]

Why the heck would you want Batum in the first place much less give up a top 10 pick for him? He averaged 8 points and 1 rebound in 25 minutes last year. Heck even Casspi put up better numbers last year.

Batum is already better than both our forwards. He's an athletic SF that can defend and also hit outside shots. Just what we need.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Batum is already better than both our forwards. He's an athletic SF that can defend and also hit outside shots. Just what we need.

batum/miller for casspi/beno? salaries are almost identical

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

More like 12/4.5/1.5 in 31 minutes with pretty good defense and showing nice development to boot. He may be a little overhyped, but there's no question whatsoever that he's better than anything we have right now and will probably be better than most of the SFs in the draft as well.

Sorry, I mistakenly read his playoff stats. My bad. 12 and 4 is better but I'm still not sure it's worth swapping the pick for. I'd say odds are Leonard or Jimmer will end up being as good or better players than Batum so I'd rather just draft one of them. Especially Jimmer. Maybe I'm buying into the hype a little too much but I have a good feeling about Jimmer.

 

[mac]

batum/miller for casspi/beno? salaries are almost identical

Man we shoulda traded Kenny Thomas for James and Wade back in the day while we're at it.

 

[hrdboild]

batum/miller for casspi/beno? salaries are almost identical

I think this is a great idea because it doesn't include our pick. I think you can sell Portland on Beno being a younger replacement for Miller who they're going to need to replace in the next couple years somehow. You'd also have to sell them on Casspi having as much potential as Batum, but this is potentially a win-win trade for both teams. I like it. It would seem to pressure us into taking a PG with our pick, but all indications are that we're leaning that way anyway.

 

[bajaden]

I haven't read all the posts, but the question I would ask, is if Batum is that good, then why would Portland want to move him? I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but if Portland thinks that Casspi has more upside than Batum, then I have to step back and re-think the whole thing.

When you look at his stats, he went from a role player in 2009/2010, to a major contributer in 2010/2011. His minutes went up, and so did his shot attempts. He went from 268 attempts in 2009/10 to 807 shot attempts in 2010/11. His 3 pt attempts went from 132 to 342. But his overall shooting percentage went from 51.9% to 45.5%. And his 3 pt percentage went from 40.9% to 34.5%. At the same time, his blocked shots and steals per game remained almost the same, despite the additional minutes.

So he definitely took a step backwards last season when given a chance to be a big part of the team offensively and defensively. Now one season does not condemm a career for all time. But at the same time, I'm not doing flip flops all over the place over a chance to aquire him. I think at the right price he'd be worth the gamble. The question is, is he more of a role player than a starter? Of course only time will tell. Could be that last season was just a small bump in the road, or an adjustment period to the extra minutes. He may have been trying too hard to show he deserved the extra minutes. Or not! The question is, how much do you want to pay to find out?