Kings - Suns Simple swap

[Smills91]

With the additions of Childress, Hedo and the emergence of Dudley along with Hill the Suns have a pretty nice rotation at the wing positions. However, with the departure of Amare, the Suns are lacking some talent in their front court. Ahem, Kings to the rescue.

Kings deal: Samuel Dalembert
Suns deal: Jason Richardson

Both players are expiring, yet each team gets what they're looking for. The suns get a big man who can run the floor, be the benefactor from Steve Nash passes and who will rebound and patrol the paint on the defense.

The Kings get an athletic finisher/shooter who could complement Tyreke or Beno on the floor. We get more explosive offensively and the Kings become a much more exciting team(ticket sales). J-Rich is also versatile enough to slide to the 3 to make a 3 guard line-up or to play small-ball with certain match-ups.

Suns save a few hundred thousand dollars in the deal(big plus to Sarver).

Kings new roster:

C:Cousins, Whiteside
PF: C. Landry, Thompson, Jackson
SF: Greene, Casspi, M. Landry
SG: Richardson, Garcia, Wright
PG: Tyreke, Beno, Jeter

Suns new roster:

C: Dalembert, Lopez, Jones
PF: Frye, Warrick, Lawal
SF: Hedo, Dudley, Clark
SG: Childress, Hill, Dowdell
PG: Nash, Dragic

 

[Bricklayer]

No.

We absolutely, positively, do NOT need another guy eating up shots in the backcourt. Especially not one with an aversion to defense.

We are NOT going to go back to our pudding soft red carpet down the paint wussified pretend defense. We need shotblockign roleplayers a lot more than we need offensive wannabes. We've got at elast 8 guys on this team who could legitimartely average double figures given the minutes/shots (Reke/Beno/Cisco/Casspi/Greene/Landry/JT/Cousins), and two of them are young ball dominant stars. Defensive roleplayers are where its at now for us. The offense is already here.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

we need a shane battier type player at SG. someone that knows their role, does it effectively and can knock down open shots

 

[Dime Dropper]

This makes zero sense.

 

[bajaden]

I think not!

 

[cuad]

The legend lives on. Smills91 for kings fans hall of fame.

 

[kingsboi]

I like J-Rich and all, but I don't want to trade our seven footer with shot blocking/rebounding abilities without seeing him play first.

 

[Prince_XY]

Ahem, Kings to the rescue.

Kings deal: Samuel Dalembert
Suns deal: Jason Richardson

If either Cousins or Whiteside is ready to assume the role of a defensive anchor in our team, then by all means this could be a good trade. But until that happens, I will always put more value on Dalembert than Jason Richardson in our team.

BTW, don't you like our team to have a legit defensive minded shotblocking center for a change? Let us try this exciting change for at least a season! We've waited for so long for this to happen and now we are so quick to go back to poor defense?

 

[Smills91]

If either Cousins or Whiteside is ready to assume the role of a defensive anchor in our team, then by all means this could be a good trade. But until that happens, I will always put more value on Dalembert than Jason Richardson in our team.

BTW, don't you like our team to have a legit defensive minded shotblocking center for a change? Let us try this exciting change for at least a season! We've waited for so long for this to happen and now we are so quick to go back to poor defense?

In theory YES, absolutely. And I do like the Dalembert acquisition. I think he's a nice safety net for the rookie that is DMC. However, I have a feeling by December many Kings fans will be pulling their hair out in frustration due to Daly's low bball IQ and inability to handle and finish with the rock near the basket. Also, I think the number of goal tends he'll commit will likely offset the number of quality blocked shots(quality defined as blocked for a defensive stop, not blocked, regained by the offense and scored again). Daly's more of a luxury to me than anything, whereas I think J-Rich could be an integral part of our offense.

 

[Superman]

In theory YES, absolutely. And I do like the Dalembert acquisition. I think he's a nice safety net for the rookie that is DMC. However, I have a feeling by December many Kings fans will be pulling their hair out in frustration due to Daly's low bball IQ and inability to handle and finish with the rock near the basket. Also, I think the number of goal tends he'll commit will likely offset the number of quality blocked shots(quality defined as blocked for a defensive stop, not blocked, regained by the offense and scored again). Daly's more of a luxury to me than anything, whereas I think J-Rich could be an integral part of our offense.

Your definition of a quality block is hogwash. A block is a block. It's not the blocker's fault that the offense gathers the ball up and puts it back in. He did his job already. Of course, the last part of defense is rebounding / gaining possession, but that doesn't diminish the blocked shot.

As for moving Dalembert, I do think the Kings will get rid of him around the deadline, assuming he gets healthy before then. I don't see him as part of the long term future. If he gets in the lineup and plays a huge role, anchoring the defense, and we're making a legitimate push for the playoffs, then I could see management rolling with him for the rest of the season. But if we're projecting for a high 30s, low 40s finish in late January or early February, I would expect that we'd be looking to move him to a team that is looking for a shotblocker, and acquiring a pick, rather than losing him after the season. I would expect that there will be a number of potential contenders that would like a guy like Dalembert and would be willing to offer him an MLE type deal next summer, and that's more than I think he's worth to us. His injury might have ramifications as well.

But trading him for a stop gap swingman that would almost certainly be looking for a new team next season doesn't make any sense at all, especially not when the swingman would cost us an extra $2 million.

 

[King Baller]

No offense Smills, I like JR and his game, but you NEVER trade Big for Small

KB

 

[asakkings]

I wouldn't mind being able to get Jared Dudley from them somehow.

 

[Telemachus]

In theory YES, absolutely. And I do like the Dalembert acquisition. I think he's a nice safety net for the rookie that is DMC. However, I have a feeling by December many Kings fans will be pulling their hair out in frustration due to Daly's low bball IQ and inability to handle and finish with the rock near the basket. Also, I think the number of goal tends he'll commit will likely offset the number of quality blocked shots(quality defined as blocked for a defensive stop, not blocked, regained by the offense and scored again). Daly's more of a luxury to me than anything, whereas I think J-Rich could be an integral part of our offense.

I think sometimes when looking at a shot-blocker, people tend to only look at the shots they block. To me, it is much more important how many shots they change. How many times over the years did we see a player like Hakeem or Mutumbo get in the heads of the Kings players by blocking a couple shots early? They would start rushing their shots in the paint OR start taking all perimeter shots and get completely away from their offense. This is what a good shot-blocker like Dalembert can do for the Kings. Maybe Whiteside will be able to do the same thing in a couple years (but not now). This is something I have wanted to see happen for the Kings for a very long time, the last thing I want to do is trade him away before we even have a chance to watch it.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

can't wait for the season to start already

 

[Andre87]

No.

We absolutely, positively, do NOT need another guy eating up shots in the backcourt. Especially not one with an aversion to defense.

We are NOT going to go back to our pudding soft red carpet down the paint wussified pretend defense. We need shotblockign roleplayers a lot more than we need offensive wannabes. We've got at elast 8 guys on this team who could legitimartely average double figures given the minutes/shots (Reke/Beno/Cisco/Casspi/Greene/Landry/JT/Cousins), and two of them are young ball dominant stars. Defensive roleplayers are where its at now for us. The offense is already here.

who's eating shots in the backcourt aside from reke now?!
But anyways no way the suns are trading jrich for dalembert.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

This. Great post Brick.