Kings out of the picture for Iverson...
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LA radio is right up there with Peter Vesey in BS value. I see Sac "in the mix" but don't see AI here, ever!
Bloomberg is a news agency. Joe Maloof gave one of their reporters an interview.
http://www.bloomberg.com/
http://www.bloomberg.com/
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You have a total of 18 posts? So obviously you must be a previously banned person as you say you are a lurker. You have lurked for years?
She puts the info out, choose to believe it or not. Things do change quickly so her source(a credible one) may hear one thing and next minute the deal could be back alive. That is not VF's fault. I would say majority of the time its been a pretty solid source and those of us that have been here for a while actually know that. I agree with PIK'S VF why even respond.. Let us grunts do it for you.
On a side note, thanks for the info VF, Haven't posted in a while, just working out some issues here at home. I may be one of the few that am glad at this point this is not going to happen. Thats a discussion for the other AI thread tho.
She puts the info out, choose to believe it or not. Things do change quickly so her source(a credible one) may hear one thing and next minute the deal could be back alive. That is not VF's fault. I would say majority of the time its been a pretty solid source and those of us that have been here for a while actually know that. I agree with PIK'S VF why even respond.. Let us grunts do it for you.
On a side note, thanks for the info VF, Haven't posted in a while, just working out some issues here at home. I may be one of the few that am glad at this point this is not going to happen. Thats a discussion for the other AI thread tho.
Not only did Grant say that the Kings were never in it for AI, he also said that GP never spoke to Billy King and his explanation why Joe Maloof said that the Kings were in the mix was to get others off his back and stop asking whether or not they were going after him, which makes absolutely zero sense, but that is what he said. He said that he spoke to several people in the Kings front office today and they all confirmed to him that they were never in it for AI.
11 years is kind of a long stint in sports.
Anyway, the key to those denver/Indiana deals would appear to be the thing we were't willing to part wiht -- the promising young player. Granger, and now unexpectedly JR Smith. Thought from the beginnign that Kevin would be the logical target for the Sixers, adn every deal they have seemed to be considering has always involved some young kid with big upside. Absolutely right approach for the Sixers, but somebody is going to have to bite their lip and go for it form the other side.
Anyway, the key to those denver/Indiana deals would appear to be the thing we were't willing to part wiht -- the promising young player. Granger, and now unexpectedly JR Smith. Thought from the beginnign that Kevin would be the logical target for the Sixers, adn every deal they have seemed to be considering has always involved some young kid with big upside. Absolutely right approach for the Sixers, but somebody is going to have to bite their lip and go for it form the other side.
Why wonder about the credibility of Bucher or Napear? For now, what we have is a direct quote from Joe Maloof that the Kings are not pursuing AI. He never commented on whether they had or hadn't pursued AI.
All that matters as of today, is the direct quote from Joe, that was reported on Bloomberg and repeated on KHTK. Could that change tomorrow? Maybe. But right now, if I'm going to listen to anyone, it will be one of the owners of the Kings.
All that matters as of today, is the direct quote from Joe, that was reported on Bloomberg and repeated on KHTK. Could that change tomorrow? Maybe. But right now, if I'm going to listen to anyone, it will be one of the owners of the Kings.
i dont know if anybody has brought it up yet but i wonder if there is a chance that a deal might have gone down but wanted to wait until after tonite so bibby would be able to play tonights game worry free. or maybe the maloofs decided it would be better to stop gushing about iverson when a reporter called. remember when artest said he wasnt going to play in sac? the next day, it was on. im not ready to give out on this quite yet.
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Oh yeah and Indiana's 2007 first round pick belongs to Atlanta from the Joe Johnson trade. So basically their offer would be Tinsley, Jacko, Foster, and Shawne Williams. Sounds like crap to me.
Oh yeah and Indiana's 2007 first round pick belongs to Atlanta from the Joe Johnson trade. So basically their offer would be Tinsley, Jacko, Foster, and Shawne Williams. Sounds like crap to me.
The general mood does seem to be of depression, but I too didn't think getting Iverson was a very good idea. His history is too sketchy, and we already have one such guy in the locker room. Iverson has feuded with all his coaches, and Muss would be a light weight for him (add Artest to the mix, and Muss just might throw up his hands and quit too).
Is he better than Bibby? Sure. If we could also offload KT, does that help. Sure it does. Despite this, following needs to be remembered
1. Apart from the year when they went to the finals (I know that's a big apart), Iverson hasn't won much. Recently, Philly has missed the playoffs, and with or without Iverson, would have missed it this year too (even in the East).
2. He has not existed with other stars (nor has Artest). This would have gotten ugly soon.
3. Young guys have rarely propered in his shadow. Don't know if they were not good enough to begin with, or the culture of the organization is more to blame than AI. That's a big question though, with us grooming some young guys to play bigger roles in future.
4. Doesn't help our cap. Per hoopshype, Bibby and KT shall make a combined 21M next year, while AI shall make about 20. Plus, we shall need to sign another "big" guy to shore up our already woefully thin front court. On other other hand, if Bibby opts out next year (will the current events prompt him to?), we might have some good cap for a major signing (we shall need a PG of course).
5. We shall remain mediocre. West is too tough. With Iverson, or with Bibby and KT, we might make the playoffs as 7-8th seed, or miss it. We are not going to be contenders either way.
The best option might be to trade Bibby and or some other guys (Reef has a smallish contract and is a good low post scorer, something a lot of teams could use; Chicago for example) for future picks. This shall allow us to stink bad this year, and hopefully land a high pick, while at the same time, clearing up space for a major signing. Easier said than done though.
Is he better than Bibby? Sure. If we could also offload KT, does that help. Sure it does. Despite this, following needs to be remembered
1. Apart from the year when they went to the finals (I know that's a big apart), Iverson hasn't won much. Recently, Philly has missed the playoffs, and with or without Iverson, would have missed it this year too (even in the East).
2. He has not existed with other stars (nor has Artest). This would have gotten ugly soon.
3. Young guys have rarely propered in his shadow. Don't know if they were not good enough to begin with, or the culture of the organization is more to blame than AI. That's a big question though, with us grooming some young guys to play bigger roles in future.
4. Doesn't help our cap. Per hoopshype, Bibby and KT shall make a combined 21M next year, while AI shall make about 20. Plus, we shall need to sign another "big" guy to shore up our already woefully thin front court. On other other hand, if Bibby opts out next year (will the current events prompt him to?), we might have some good cap for a major signing (we shall need a PG of course).
5. We shall remain mediocre. West is too tough. With Iverson, or with Bibby and KT, we might make the playoffs as 7-8th seed, or miss it. We are not going to be contenders either way.
The best option might be to trade Bibby and or some other guys (Reef has a smallish contract and is a good low post scorer, something a lot of teams could use; Chicago for example) for future picks. This shall allow us to stink bad this year, and hopefully land a high pick, while at the same time, clearing up space for a major signing. Easier said than done though.