[Game] Kings @ Lakers 10/26/2024 7:30pm Pacific 10:30pm Eastern
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megapoxy
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So the 10 minutes that Davis wasn't on the floor the Lakers had a +26.
On a bright note I liked Domas in the offense, and that mini run DDR did all by himself in the 4th. Also 2nd match with Fox dishing 10+ assists. The weak link in both matches so far was Lyles, not himself in defense, missed several open shots in offense, the two man game he tried to play with Len twice was... catastrophic. But who can replace him as a power forward? Keegan and DDR staying on the floor with... dunno Keon playing at 3 (or with 3 guards?). Him and Huerter getting straight back to the action without taking part in training/preseason might have not been the wisest thing to do.
On a bright note I liked Domas in the offense, and that mini run DDR did all by himself in the 4th. Also 2nd match with Fox dishing 10+ assists. The weak link in both matches so far was Lyles, not himself in defense, missed several open shots in offense, the two man game he tried to play with Len twice was... catastrophic. But who can replace him as a power forward? Keegan and DDR staying on the floor with... dunno Keon playing at 3 (or with 3 guards?). Him and Huerter getting straight back to the action without taking part in training/preseason might have not been the wisest thing to do.
Double-K
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I mean, silver lining. Demar was nearly unstoppable and as long as we have him, Fox and Monk, we can never say a game is over...
iowamcnabb
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it’s so weird that 5 or 6 years ago he was probably a top 3 player or close and then he has been injured and a bit of a pansy on the court the last several. He throws up a bunch of slop but so far it’s going in and he is getting to the line a bunch.
Double-K
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To Sactownkid's point, maybe our grinder team is perfect for such a competitive west division in the long run.
LoungeLizard
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Yep…that was the final nail of many nails in the coffin tonight.
Tetsujin
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I think the Kings were theoretically trying that with the Len lineup to start the fourth (Len being a better defender on paper than Domas) and Keegan being our best pure defender. Everything just went completely to crap the second LeBron hit his third shot in a row and activated his 20% limit break stat bump.
Kingz19
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This is a treat. Usually you have to stay up late to listen to a Deuce and Morgan cope session.
Obviously, They lost the game in the first 5 minutes of the fourth. The rebounding was bad all game too. The defense had good stretches. Outside of a few breakdowns I thought the defense was good.
You can’t do nothing about what LeBron did to start the quarter..but they could’ve made a couple of baskets. Even a pathetic 21-4 run the Kings probably still win the game. But no points is a killer.
Mike is the king of the immediate timeout to start a quarter but he was very slow on the draw to start the fourth when the momentum was obvious at 6-0 not just from the Lakers swagger but the Kings aimlessness.
Anyway…I’m very comfortable with our starters. Whether you have Huerter or Keon in there. The team is going to be fine because their starting lineup is extremely good.
What I’m not happy with..and wasn’t happy with at the end of the offseason was the Kings bench and how really nothing was done outside of drafting an injured player who might not help us this season.
They will hold the team back if not fixed. It’s not an issue with the individual talent. Obviously we have one of the best reserves in Monk but the bench the bench has zero stylistic diversity. Negligible athleticism and matchup flexibility..and if Monk has an average or sub par night. No offense.
It doesn’t really matter how the bench is used either. It’s just not very good and the Kings aren’t deep.
Monte needs to raise his preference to 6’8 and long and athletic instead of 6’5 and athletic.
But I can’t believe he entered the season with the bench as is.
Oh well, on to the next.
Great game by Domas and I liked how DeMar had his time to blow up instead of us going to him all game like Minny. I liked the more “souped up Barnes” role for him as @SLAB put it
Obviously, They lost the game in the first 5 minutes of the fourth. The rebounding was bad all game too. The defense had good stretches. Outside of a few breakdowns I thought the defense was good.
You can’t do nothing about what LeBron did to start the quarter..but they could’ve made a couple of baskets. Even a pathetic 21-4 run the Kings probably still win the game. But no points is a killer.
Mike is the king of the immediate timeout to start a quarter but he was very slow on the draw to start the fourth when the momentum was obvious at 6-0 not just from the Lakers swagger but the Kings aimlessness.
Anyway…I’m very comfortable with our starters. Whether you have Huerter or Keon in there. The team is going to be fine because their starting lineup is extremely good.
What I’m not happy with..and wasn’t happy with at the end of the offseason was the Kings bench and how really nothing was done outside of drafting an injured player who might not help us this season.
They will hold the team back if not fixed. It’s not an issue with the individual talent. Obviously we have one of the best reserves in Monk but the bench the bench has zero stylistic diversity. Negligible athleticism and matchup flexibility..and if Monk has an average or sub par night. No offense.
It doesn’t really matter how the bench is used either. It’s just not very good and the Kings aren’t deep.
Monte needs to raise his preference to 6’8 and long and athletic instead of 6’5 and athletic.
But I can’t believe he entered the season with the bench as is.
Oh well, on to the next.
Great game by Domas and I liked how DeMar had his time to blow up instead of us going to him all game like Minny. I liked the more “souped up Barnes” role for him as @SLAB put it
Double-K
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And as Mr Slim pointed out earlier, Fox has become a better PG. On the flip side of the coin, that means he's much better at picking and choosing his spots now that we have all the weapons. So if this is indeed a grind-to-win-by-2 kind of team, you'd want Fox of all people to be fresh enough all season and not like the last 2 seasons where he was visibly drained out by February...
#Silverlining
#Silverlining
coolhandluke
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We got Mr. Slim talking about silver linings? I didn't think things were that bad. Now, I'm concerned.
iowamcnabb
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Yeh the offensive rebounding was a back breaker. There were several times that Keegan or someone else made a defensive stop and then the loose ball off the miss would land behind him for an easy put back. That was annoying
I agree with all of this. I was already over Trey Lyles' lack of defensive intensity last season. He does space the floor which made him a good fit for this roster in year 1 and 2 of the Mike Brown era but ultimately he's a guy who gives up as many points as he gets. The help at PF needs to come via trade. Keegan has done admirably in that role so far but he's only one guy and he's going to get beat up if he's got to bang with PF's and C's every game.
Double-K
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Wait till you see SLAB's comment... lolWe got Mr. Slim talking about silver linings? I didn't think things were that bad. Now, I'm concerned.
Kingster
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Which doesn't portend well.
Huerter tied with Keegan for +9 in the game vs Minny. Monk was -7 vs Minny. Keon was -12 vs Minny. Why are we worse when Monk and Keon are on the floor?
See how dumb that is? I've literally been saying this since i joined this forum a billion years ago; individual +/- does not matter outside of incredibly specific scenarios and rotations. It's not indicative of anything at all.
God damn, yall Huerter haters are getting really nonsensical. It's infuriating.
iowamcnabb
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Also, another positive, Demar looks pretty good on those pull up threes at the top of the key. Super small sample size but that pull up has a rhythm to it that is similar to his mid range, maybe that’s his spot?
We got Mr. Slim talking about silver linings? I didn't think things were that bad. Now, I'm concerned.
Double-K
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I think moreso Demar is clearly scoring at will in the 4th depends on what the defense is giving him.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I think the near comeback at the end of the game does sort of point towards the bigger picture of the team with DDR, Fox, and Malik all pretty much having their way with their single defender because no one dares double-team off of Fox or Deebo taking turns giving the other team nightmares.
There are like three teams in the league with the personnel capable of slowing that lineup down when it has any sort of momentum and even then I’m not sure it’d be particularly easy for the Celtics, Knicks, or Thunder to do so.
SacTownKid
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His spot is clutch, haha.
Double-K
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Yeah back in the days, we usually have to rely on Fox alone to carry us. Even Domas got a habit of saying, "oh wait till 4th and Fox will carry us."
This might be a good sign in the long run.
Larry89
Disgruntled Kings Fan
Because he is not a good 1v1 defender
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s not that Demar can’t shoot threes, it’s just that he doesn’t feel like it because it’s not aesthetically pleasing to watch.
iowamcnabb
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I was really happy with how Keegan guarded Bron tonight regardless of the outcome. In years past he would just blow by him and get and ones. Keegs muscled up to him and forced him into facilitating more than I think Lebron anticipated. Encouraging
coolhandluke
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It would have been called as a foul if AD missed that shot.
That and Monk is just so much better paired with Fox.
Double-K
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Bro grew up idolizing Kobe. He also had said many times (in numerous podcasts) that it's not that he couldn't shoot the 3 but when the defense collapse it's always easier to get to his go-to spot with the 40+% shot in mid range.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
He also had the misfortune of being on the floor to start the game and during the start of the fourth quarter. In the first quarter, he was surprisingly our best defender but in the fourth quarter stretch it’d be hard to say that he really helped matters (Although I do wish we had tried harder to get him a look at the basket once the momentum began to shift).
Huerter played an excellent game. He was the only guys actually hitting 3's. He had at least 5 deflections on defense, i think 3 lead to steals.
If you watched the game and can't acknowledge that he was very good tonight, then yes, you have a preconceived bias against him.
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