[Game] Kings @ Lakers 10/26/2024 7:30pm Pacific 10:30pm Eastern

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Ok so yeah disappointed…. but we just didn’t have anyone to stop AD or Lebron and they hammered us. WTH is up with our third quarters?? It’s early in the season so I’ll be patient to watch and pray they work this out ASAP.
 
So the 10 minutes that Davis wasn't on the floor the Lakers had a +26.
On a bright note I liked Domas in the offense, and that mini run DDR did all by himself in the 4th. Also 2nd match with Fox dishing 10+ assists. The weak link in both matches so far was Lyles, not himself in defense, missed several open shots in offense, the two man game he tried to play with Len twice was... catastrophic. But who can replace him as a power forward? Keegan and DDR staying on the floor with... dunno Keon playing at 3 (or with 3 guards?). Him and Huerter getting straight back to the action without taking part in training/preseason might have not been the wisest thing to do.
 
I mean as an nba fan that was great entertainment. I’m choosing to just tip my hat to bron for that spectacular run.

we are a good team that is clear.

unfortunately, this is going to be the west all year, just a bunch of dog fights every night. Going to be super draining if we don’t keep a level head as fans.
I mean, silver lining. Demar was nearly unstoppable and as long as we have him, Fox and Monk, we can never say a game is over...
 
Just considering the momentum of the game, the Kings also probably win had AD not hit a random fall away three off of one foot with Domas literally slamming into him (which surprisingly didn’t get called as a foul).
it’s so weird that 5 or 6 years ago he was probably a top 3 player or close and then he has been injured and a bit of a pansy on the court the last several. He throws up a bunch of slop but so far it’s going in and he is getting to the line a bunch.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
That's not what I meant. I refer to the second-half minutes where at least some of the starters rest, usually at the end of the third and beginning of the fourth quarters. The bench has to hold on to that lead until the closing squad is back on the court.
I think the Kings were theoretically trying that with the Len lineup to start the fourth (Len being a better defender on paper than Domas) and Keegan being our best pure defender. Everything just went completely to crap the second LeBron hit his third shot in a row and activated his 20% limit break stat bump.
 

Kingz19

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This is a treat. Usually you have to stay up late to listen to a Deuce and Morgan cope session.

Obviously, They lost the game in the first 5 minutes of the fourth. The rebounding was bad all game too. The defense had good stretches. Outside of a few breakdowns I thought the defense was good.

You can’t do nothing about what LeBron did to start the quarter..but they could’ve made a couple of baskets. Even a pathetic 21-4 run the Kings probably still win the game. But no points is a killer.

Mike is the king of the immediate timeout to start a quarter but he was very slow on the draw to start the fourth when the momentum was obvious at 6-0 not just from the Lakers swagger but the Kings aimlessness.

Anyway…I’m very comfortable with our starters. Whether you have Huerter or Keon in there. The team is going to be fine because their starting lineup is extremely good.

What I’m not happy with..and wasn’t happy with at the end of the offseason was the Kings bench and how really nothing was done outside of drafting an injured player who might not help us this season.

They will hold the team back if not fixed. It’s not an issue with the individual talent. Obviously we have one of the best reserves in Monk but the bench the bench has zero stylistic diversity. Negligible athleticism and matchup flexibility..and if Monk has an average or sub par night. No offense.

It doesn’t really matter how the bench is used either. It’s just not very good and the Kings aren’t deep.

Monte needs to raise his preference to 6’8 and long and athletic instead of 6’5 and athletic.

But I can’t believe he entered the season with the bench as is.

Oh well, on to the next.

Great game by Domas and I liked how DeMar had his time to blow up instead of us going to him all game like Minny. I liked the more “souped up Barnes” role for him as @SLAB put it
 
And as Mr Slim pointed out earlier, Fox has become a better PG. On the flip side of the coin, that means he's much better at picking and choosing his spots now that we have all the weapons. So if this is indeed a grind-to-win-by-2 kind of team, you'd want Fox of all people to be fresh enough all season and not like the last 2 seasons where he was visibly drained out by February...

#Silverlining
 
:: #SilverLining mode engaged ::

Six players in double figures, shot over fifty percent from the field, had an acceptable performance from three-point range, shot decent at the free throw line, held their own in the paint, won the turnover battle, pushed or won on every counting stat, except one.

:: End #SilverLining mode ::

... But, oh brother, that one!
We got Mr. Slim talking about silver linings? I didn't think things were that bad. Now, I'm concerned. :p
 

hrdboild

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So the 10 minutes that Davis wasn't on the floor the Lakers had a +26.
On a bright note I liked Domas in the offense, and that mini run DDR did all by himself in the 4th. Also 2nd match with Fox dishing 10+ assists. The weak link in both matches so far was Lyles, not himself in defense, missed several open shots in offense, the two man game he tried to play with Len twice was... catastrophic. But who can replace him as a power forward? Keegan and DDR staying on the floor with... dunno Keon playing at 3 (or with 3 guards?). Him and Huerter getting straight back to the action without taking part in training/preseason might have not been the wisest thing to do.
I agree with all of this. I was already over Trey Lyles' lack of defensive intensity last season. He does space the floor which made him a good fit for this roster in year 1 and 2 of the Mike Brown era but ultimately he's a guy who gives up as many points as he gets. The help at PF needs to come via trade. Keegan has done admirably in that role so far but he's only one guy and he's going to get beat up if he's got to bang with PF's and C's every game.
 
It's only one game, but Huerter was -29 in 26 minutes and Monk +20 in 28 minutes. Kevin shot well and had some deflections, but golly, why is the team worse when he is on the court?
Huerter tied with Keegan for +9 in the game vs Minny. Monk was -7 vs Minny. Keon was -12 vs Minny. Why are we worse when Monk and Keon are on the floor?

See how dumb that is? I've literally been saying this since i joined this forum a billion years ago; individual +/- does not matter outside of incredibly specific scenarios and rotations. It's not indicative of anything at all.

God damn, yall Huerter haters are getting really nonsensical. It's infuriating.
 

Tetsujin

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And as Mr Slim pointed out earlier, Fox has become a better PG. On the flip side of the coin, that means he's much better at picking and choosing his spots now that we have all the weapons. So if this is indeed a grind-to-win-by-2 kind of team, you'd want Fox of all people to be fresh enough all season and not like the last 2 seasons where he was visibly drained out by February...

#Silverlining
I think the near comeback at the end of the game does sort of point towards the bigger picture of the team with DDR, Fox, and Malik all pretty much having their way with their single defender because no one dares double-team off of Fox or Deebo taking turns giving the other team nightmares.

There are like three teams in the league with the personnel capable of slowing that lineup down when it has any sort of momentum and even then I’m not sure it’d be particularly easy for the Celtics, Knicks, or Thunder to do so.
 
I think the near comeback at the end of the game does sort of point towards the bigger picture of the team with DDR, Fox, and Malik all pretty much having their way with their single defender because no one dares double-team off of Fox or Deebo and taking turns giving the other team nightmares.

There are like three teams in the league with the personnel capable of slowing that lineup down when it has any sort of momentum and even then I’m not sure it’d be particularly easy for the Celtics, Knicks, or Thunder to do so.
Yeah back in the days, we usually have to rely on Fox alone to carry us. Even Domas got a habit of saying, "oh wait till 4th and Fox will carry us."

This might be a good sign in the long run.
 
Keegan has done admirably in that role so far but he's only one guy and he's going to get beat up if he's got to bang with PF's and C's every game.
I was really happy with how Keegan guarded Bron tonight regardless of the outcome. In years past he would just blow by him and get and ones. Keegs muscled up to him and forced him into facilitating more than I think Lebron anticipated. Encouraging
 
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s not that Demar can’t shoot threes, it’s just that he doesn’t feel like it because it’s not aesthetically pleasing to watch.
Bro grew up idolizing Kobe. He also had said many times (in numerous podcasts) that it's not that he couldn't shoot the 3 but when the defense collapse it's always easier to get to his go-to spot with the 40+% shot in mid range.
 

Tetsujin

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Because he is not a good 1v1 defender
He also had the misfortune of being on the floor to start the game and during the start of the fourth quarter. In the first quarter, he was surprisingly our best defender but in the fourth quarter stretch it’d be hard to say that he really helped matters (Although I do wish we had tried harder to get him a look at the basket once the momentum began to shift).
 
I do not hate Kevin Huerter. I just do not believe he has earned a starter's role, particularly after missing all of preseason except for one scrimmage. But as other posters have pointed out, Mike Brown is loyal to a fault.

As for tonight, he was on the court during both the 12-0 and 14-0 runs. Maybe it's just a coincidence.
Huerter played an excellent game. He was the only guys actually hitting 3's. He had at least 5 deflections on defense, i think 3 lead to steals.

If you watched the game and can't acknowledge that he was very good tonight, then yes, you have a preconceived bias against him.
 
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