Kings - Jazz

[Smills91]

It's almost apparant that Boozer is likely to leave Utah this summer as a FA and I don't think the Jazz will miss him or his demands with Paul Millsap playing the way he does and also having Kirilenko. My thoughts are, nobody in their right mind would deal for a Boozer rental WHILE giving up pieces to help the Jazz win now, except for maybe US.

Kings deal:
John Salmons
Brad Miller

Jazz deal:
Carlos Boozer
Jarron Collins
Morris Almond

The Jazz get two pieces that can help them in their playoff pursuit, and the Kings get the inside track on re-signing Boozer in the off-season or as a consolation get 17 million is cap savings to pursue other FA's/trades this off-season.

Looks like a win-win, cuz I can't see Boozer garner more value than a Salmons/Miller package with his "I'm opting out for a raise" declaration earlier this season.

 

[Spanish_King]

Salmons (5 $)& Miller (12$) for Boozer (12$)and someone more....the salaries are different...Korver?

 

[Entity]

we could take Jarron Collins off their hands and it would work. he is an expiring 2 mil contract.

 

[Spanish_King]

Options:

Korver 10$ in 2 years
CJ Miles 15$ in 3 years, plus an option for the team: 1 year
Collins 2$ in 1 year
Knight 2$ in 1 year
Price 1'1$ in 1 year

The Choosen?

 

[HighTopKicks]

The only reason Utah lets Boozer walk is because his salary puts them over the Luxury Tax, so why would they want Miller & Salmons. More than likely, they trade him to a team with cap space for future draft choices.

 

[Smills91]

The only reason Utah lets Boozer walk is because his salary puts them over the Luxury Tax, so why would they want Miller & Salmons. More than likely, they trade him to a team with cap space for future draft choices.

No I think the Jazz let him walk, as Boozer has stated he's opting out and will want a max deal that'd mean something like a 6 year 80-100 million dollar deal. I'm pretty positive that the Jazz are set to let that go to someone else and just re-sign Millsap to a nice reasonable deal as he's not that much of a drop off in his production for them. That way they can use that money ELSEWHERE, a la John Salmons or who may it be.

The deal I have going is:

Miller/Salmons for Boozer/Collins/Almond

 

[kingsnation]

It's almost apparant that Boozer is likely to leave Utah this summer as a FA and I don't think the Jazz will miss him or his demands with Paul Millsap playing the way he does and also having Kirilenko. My thoughts are, nobody in their right mind would deal for a Boozer rental WHILE giving up pieces to help the Jazz win now, except for maybe US.

Kings deal:
John Salmons
Brad Miller

Jazz deal:
Carlos Boozer
Jarron Collins
Morris Almond

The Jazz get two pieces that can help them in their playoff pursuit, and the Kings get the inside track on re-signing Boozer in the off-season or as a consolation get 17 million is cap savings to pursue other FA's/trades this off-season.

Looks like a win-win, cuz I can't see Boozer garner more value than a Salmons/Miller package with his "I'm opting out for a raise" declaration earlier this season.

Well, Boozer is badly hurt and is about to have another surgery...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3800848

Does the league allow him to be traded under this kind of circumstance?

 

[Entity]

I am not sure if they do. BUT this could be a good trade now. It looks like a total salary dump. But think about it this offseason who is going to pay top dollar for a guy that barley played this season. We would have bird rights and still have cap space enough for somebody like Hedo. Still have our 2 1st rounders and keep all of our youth we have now. I couldn't think of a reason why Utah would do this until now.

 

[Smills91]

Sure he can be traded while injured, the Kings would have to 'waive' the physical as he wouldn't pass it in order to allow the Kings to push it through. However, since he's injured, if he were to retire from it, the Kings wouldn't get any cap relief via insurance. With Boozer likely not retiring and essentially being an expiring contract at this juncture, that last issue it moot.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Boozer isn't our guy.

 

[HighTopKicks]

No I think the Jazz let him walk, as Boozer has stated he's opting out and will want a max deal that'd mean something like a 6 year 80-100 million dollar deal. I'm pretty positive that the Jazz are set to let that go to someone else and just re-sign Millsap to a nice reasonable deal as he's not that much of a drop off in his production for them. That way they can use that money ELSEWHERE, a la John Salmons or who may it be.

The deal I have going is:

Miller/Salmons for Boozer/Collins/Almond

Okur & Korver have player options, which I believe they will exercise so that they become UFA in 2010 when the big FA money will be available. Also, the owner stated earlier that he wasn't going to pay the Luxury Tax again.

Without this deal and without Boozer, Utah's base for 2009/2010 is $60M and that's before they resign Millsap or their 1st rounder which puts them well over the salary cap and close to the Luxury Tax even without MIller & Salmons. Add those two and Utah's salary reaches nearly $80M. So, the only way Utah stays under the Luxury Tax is to trade Boozer for draft choices or let him walk for nothing.

 

[Kings Faithful]

Boozer isn't our guy.

My problem is figuring out who is....im wondering if we are just going to to let the 09 and 10 FA's pass without picking up a superstar because if Boozer isn't our guy, I don't see Bosh, Lebron, Wade ect... as our guys either. We have to pick up at least 1 of them if we want a rebuild that doesn't last 10 years.

 

[Section 101]

Boozer isn't our guy.

+ infinity

 

[Section 101]

My problem is figuring out who is....im wondering if we are just going to to let the 09 and 10 FA's pass without picking up a superstar because if Boozer isn't our guy, I don't see Bosh, Lebron, Wade ect... as our guys either. We have to pick up at least 1 of them if we want a rebuild that doesn't last 10 years.

By not our guy means he's hurt alot and not worth it. Bosh, Lebron, Wade would be the guy if we can sign them.

 

[NME]

My problem is figuring out who is....im wondering if we are just going to to let the 09 and 10 FA's pass without picking up a superstar .

 

[Vlade4GM]

My problem is figuring out who is....im wondering if we are just going to to let the 09 and 10 FA's pass without picking up a superstar because if Boozer isn't our guy, I don't see Bosh, Lebron, Wade ect... as our guys either. We have to pick up at least 1 of them if we want a rebuild that doesn't last 10 years.

If the opportunity is there for a reasonable price it's certainly risky to pass up on it, I'm just hesitant because we'd be commited to a Boozer+Hawes froncourt. Either that or we trade Hawes and try to get a game changing defensive big at C. That and his health problems in the past, also his shady character re: loyalty. Also, who knows if he stays at the end of the year? Miami might be making a play for him, chances are he'd stay where his bird rights are but it's a concern nonetheless. I don't think a deal gets done without losing a serious prospect and/or pick anyways.

We probably aren't going to get the star player we need through the free agents coming up. My pipe is Joe Johnson. I'm holding out hope that if we build good enough young talent by 2010 he will sign because he's used to playing for a semi-small market.

 

[Kingster]

Why is there a penchant on this board to trade for injury-plagued players? I can appreciate the charitable spirit at this time of year, but that's way too much charity when you think of a long term contract and a guy who gets injured and then we end up trading him for many "pieces". No Thanks.

 

[FakeInjury]

I LOVE IT......Boozer sign-trade for beasely in the offseason....brilliant thread.

 

[mac]

The thing is how good is Boozer without a good point guard? Hell Jason Kidd made Moore look decent, who knows what Deron Williams can do. He's a big pickandroll guy, and where is a point guard on our team that can even run the pick and roll well may I ask? Bibby's gone...