Kings Have Signed John Salmons - Bye, Bye Bonzi!!

Have the exact terms been released yet? I find it extremely hard to believe that the Kings would blow the entire MLE on him, when Salmons simply stated that he turned down Toronto's offer because "they weren't a good fit" for him. Which simply means, they suck hard and he didn't want a part of it.
 
hammystyle said:
I can't really defend too much about the move particularly if it really is the whole MLE. But Salmons is really not too bad, he's a pretty good defender at the 1-3 and can handle the ball a bit. You could call him a broke man's Doug Christie.
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And you can now call us a broke man's team.


That doesn't know what a rebound is.
 
AleksandarN said:
Why is Petrie getting blamed for this when this is clearly has Maloof fingire prints all over this. From what I am reading and what VF says that there will be no sign and trade that means that we did not want to get salary back. This talent bleeding all over again because the Maloofs not Petrie did not want to spend money. The Maloofs lied yet again and we are blaming Ptrie for this:mad: :mad: :mad: . The Maloofs are the ones that did not want Bonzi back at market value. also people who said we could get better a SG on market then tell me who. I know people have mentioned Ariza but Orlando already said they would match any offer of MLe or lower.
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If Petrie is being so misrepresented by the evil Maloofs, Im sure he would have quit by now. He has the track record, or had, to go almost anywhere in the league. Im not buying your conspiracy theory.
 
This board reminds me of 1996 when Petrie drafted Peja and all the "experts" screamed and hollared and wanted John.... "whatsisname" from Syracuse, who was out of the league in a few years. I'm sure Musselman is in on this and Geoff's reference to 3 years ago when we had Doug, Bobby, etc made sense.

We had no decent backup PG last year, our athleticism nearly non-existant, Cisco did not have a good year and our outside shooting wasn't there.

Now we have a 4 yr vet of the Doug Christie size who shoots ok and hits 77% of his FT and plays 3 positions. Kevin is our 2. If the 3 is Artest then the 4 and 5 are likely SAR and Brad. Salmons, Douby and Cisco off the bench start to look like the Mavs bench, a bunch of run and gun types.

I'll let the smoke clear and see what happens in Aug and Sep, if anything.
 
I'm trying to think about it like this now.. An aging BoJax for Salmons.. oh crap.. but for the mid level.
 
At first blush this doesn't make much sense, but I'm with CruzDude. Three of the very best front offices in the league, Phoenix, Toronto and Sacramento were all gung ho for Salmons. I guess I'll just hope they know something we don't.

Second, this now changes the Garcia equation, and could open up a KT+Garcia for Magloire trade.
 
Yoda said:
If Petrie is being so misrepresented by the evil Maloofs, Im sure he would have quit by now. He has the track record, or had, to go almost anywhere in the league. Im not buying your conspiracy theory.
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This is not a conspiracy theory. all you have to do is look at the last couple of years and see how players were traded or let go because the Maloof did not want to pay them. Petrie works for the Maloof and as such has to do the best he can with the budget the Maloofs set for him. No conspiracy theory on this one.
 
CruzDude said:
This board reminds me of 1996 when Petrie drafted Peja and all the "experts" screamed and hollared and wanted John.... "whatsisname" from Syracuse, who was out of the league in a few years. I'm sure Musselman is in on this and Geoff's reference to 3 years ago when we had Doug, Bobby, etc made sense.

We had no decent backup PG last year, our athleticism nearly non-existant, Cisco did not have a good year and our outside shooting wasn't there.

Now we have a 4 yr vet of the Doug Christie size who shoots ok and hits 77% of his FT and plays 3 positions. Kevin is our 2. If the 3 is Artest then the 4 and 5 are likely SAR and Brad. Salmons, Douby and Cisco off the bench start to look like the Mavs bench, a bunch of run and gun types.

I'll let the smoke clear and see what happens in Aug and Sep, if anything.
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I appreciate your trying to step back and think clearly. It's true the offseason is not over. And I'm not blaming Geoff for Bonzi/his agent's irrationality. That said:

1. He basically admitted that we're going to suck at rebounding and it's not a top priority
2. He confirmed he thought Songaila would be a valuable addition to our softie frontcourt
3. He hinted (and this may be Petrie just being sly and not wanting to tip his hand at any further moves--and I dearly hope it is) that this is pretty much it for the offseason.

Not good signs, IMO. Salmons should be solid. And Martin will play well as a starter. It's the other things that are going on here that are troubling.
 
CruzDude said:
This board reminds me of 1996 when Petrie drafted Peja and all the "experts" screamed and hollared and wanted John.... "whatsisname" from Syracuse, who was out of the league in a few years. I'm sure Musselman is in on this and Geoff's reference to 3 years ago when we had Doug, Bobby, etc made sense.

We had no decent backup PG last year, our athleticism nearly non-existant, Cisco did not have a good year and our outside shooting wasn't there.

Now we have a 4 yr vet of the Doug Christie size who shoots ok and hits 77% of his FT and plays 3 positions. Kevin is our 2. If the 3 is Artest then the 4 and 5 are likely SAR and Brad. Salmons, Douby and Cisco off the bench start to look like the Mavs bench, a bunch of run and gun types.

I'll let the smoke clear and see what happens in Aug and Sep, if anything.
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The Mavs bench can rebound, our starters and our bench combined couldn't outrebound the Mavs's bench.
 
LPKingsFan said:
I appreciate your trying to step back and think clearly. It's true the offseason is not over. And I'm not blaming Geoff for Bonzi/his agent's irrationality. That said:

1. He basically admitted that we're going to suck at rebounding and it's not a top priority
2. He confirmed he thought Songaila would be a valuable addition to our softie frontcourt
3. He hinted (and this may be Petrie just being sly and not wanting to tip his hand at any further moves--and I dearly hope it is) that this is pretty much it for the offseason.

Not good signs, IMO. Salmons should be solid. And Martin will play well as a starter. It's the other things that are going on here that are troubling.
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...wow...i think thats what hurt the most, even more then this stupid signing...

Does he just not get it?

because if he dosent, can someone get me the number of petries dealer, because i got alot of college friends that would pay alot of money for the stuff petrie is on.
 
CruzDude said:
This board reminds me of 1996 when Petrie drafted Peja and all the "experts" screamed and hollared and wanted John.... "whatsisname" from Syracuse, who was out of the league in a few years. I'm sure Musselman is in on this and Geoff's reference to 3 years ago when we had Doug, Bobby, etc made sense.
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The difference is that that nobody had seen Peja play, nor John Wallace at an NBA level. All guesswork.

Every single person on this board who watches the NBA has ssen Bonzi play and John Salmons play. Its not guesswork.

I think I'll just go ahead and advance the Geoff-as-Gm-without-a-title count now ahead by one more.
 
We are going to get rocked at rebounding next season. No Bonzi to help the rebounding problems diminish anymore. I now wish we traded Bonzi for Foster and Jasik...whatever.
 
nbrans said:
At first blush this doesn't make much sense, but I'm with CruzDude. Three of the very best front offices in the league, Phoenix, Toronto and Sacramento were all gung ho for Salmons. I guess I'll just hope they know something we don't.
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Good point. And I hope you're right. But again, Pheonix and Toronto are basically the same front office, and our's hasn't really done much of late to warrant a top tier distinction. We'll see.

nbrans said:
Second, this now changes the Garcia equation, and could open up a KT+Garcia for Magloire trade.
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I'm not so sure. I've always envisioned Garcia as our primary backup 2/3 swingman in the Hedo/JJ role. And now with Martin starting, that's what he'll likely be. Salmons should be a 1/2 backup. Price has shown flashes but nothing to indicate he's ready full time--I say give him a shot, but keep a vet around just in case--and Douby hasn't even played in the NBA yet. And Hart... well what more can be said?
 
So Bonzi is going somewhere else for LESS than we offered probably? What was his quote, it's up to the Kings to keep me, I want to be here or something like that?

Grant was saying he might end up in Detroit.
 
Salmons must have something going on. He turned down a deal with the Suns too.

Remember the griping about Martin and Garcia?

I'm going to give GP the benefit of the doubt here. He has got a good eye. And if the Maloof's are pinching pennies there ain't too much he can do but bargain shop.
 
We got Hart, Salmons, and Jeter and Price in the backup PG.
We have Garcia, Salmons, Douby as backup SG
We have Garcia, Salmons as backup SF
We have KT?, Williams, Williamson(who never plays) at PF
We have Potato, Williams and no one else at C.

We have no rebounders, no shotblockers, we have no defense apart from Artest. We aren't going to win anything next year and i feel sick.
 
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Full roster.... all 17 of them

Here is current roster as of 5:00pm ALL 17 of them!!!!
1 22 Louis Amundson F 6-9
2 93 Ron Artest F/G 6-7
3 8 Quincy Douby G 6-3
4 32 Francisco Garcia G/F 6-7
5 44 Eugene “Pooh” Jeter G 5-11
6 23 Kevin Martin G 6-7
7 7 Ronnie Price G 6-2
8 40 Justin Williams C 6-10
9 3 Shareef Abudur-Rahim F 6-9
10 10 Mike Bibby G 6-2
11 32 Francisco Garcia F 6-7
12 5 Jason Hart G 6-3
13 52 Brad Miller C 7-0
14 20 Vitaly Potapenko C 6-10
15 7 Ronnie Price G 6-3
16 9 Kenny Thomas F 6-7
17 34 Corliss Willaimson F 6-6

The CBA only allows a max of 15. And this does not include camp invitees. Starters in bold
 
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Sac.Kings said:
We got Hart, Salmons, and Jeter in the backup PG.
We have Garcia, Salmons, Douby as backup SG
We have Garcia, Salmons as backup SF
We have KT?, Williams, Williamson(who never plays) at PF
We have Potato, Williams and no one else at C.

We have no rebounders, no shotblockers, we have no defense apart from Artest. We aren't going to win anything next year and i feel sick.
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Yeah, I don't even think we'll make the playoffs next year or even be in the running to make the playoffs.


Count this as my prediction
 
The Sixers didn't even WANT Salmons back! He had NOWHERE to play and in the article released about how he nixed the deal with Toronto it says "Salmons has very few options left and as of right now may not have a guaranteed contract next season" Wow... A full MLE on a guy who might not even HAVE A CONTRACT?
 
CruzDude said:
Here is current roster as of 5:00pm ALL 17 of them!!!!
1 22 Louis Amundson F 6-9
2 93 Ron Artest F/G 6-7
3 8 Quincy Douby G 6-3
4 32 Francisco Garcia G/F 6-7
5 44 Eugene “Pooh” Jeter G 5-11
6 23 Kevin Martin G 6-7
7 7 Ronnie Price G 6-2
8 40 Justin Williams C 6-10
9 3 Shareef Abudur-Rahim F 6-9
10 10 Mike Bibby G 6-2
11 32 Francisco Garcia F 6-7
12 5 Jason Hart G 6-3
13 52 Brad Miller C 7-0
14 20 Vitaly Potapenko C 6-10
15 7 Ronnie Price G 6-3
16 9 Kenny Thomas F 6-7
17 34 Corliss Willaimson F 6-6

The CBA only allows a max of 15. And this does not include camp invitees.
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This is what I posted in my thread in the personnell moves forum:

C: Miller/Potapenko/Williams?
PF: SAR/Thomas/Amundson?
SF: Artest/Garcia/Williamson
SG: Martin/Salmons/Douby
PG: Bibby/Hart/Price

I assume the summer league guys only have partially guaranteed contracts, so 1-2 of them will likely be cut during camp. As for the rest, gotta hope for a KT/Pot/Hart/Corliss consolidating supermove.
 
This is really a freak'n joke. What happened to all the talk of contending and spending after Mussleman's arrival for this season? Sad...truly sad.
 
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