Kings Have Signed John Salmons - Bye, Bye Bonzi!!
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Sac.Kings
All-Star
That makes me happier (a little).
D-Mass
Starter
They'll HAVE to if they expect to compete up front.
KP
Starter
I watched almost every single Sixers game last year and I can tell you... Salmons can definately score... inconsistantly. Bad move by management, if Bonzi wanted a little more I would have tried to accomidate him even if it we were already offering him the most anyone could. The guy was a flat out beast against one of the best defensive and rebounding teams in the league, during the most important time of the year. Bonzi deserves some blame too though... it definately seems all the people that were saying Bonzi really wanted to stay and that he was a different guy now were completely wrong. What a shocker 
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Viking
Starter
Well, that would make me feel a little better.
I still don't like the move one bit though.
KP
Starter
The real question is how much would it have taken? Of course we'll never know, so all we can do is speculate, but John Salmons... if we did use the MLE or most of it on him just smacks of being cheap, not wanting to pay Bonzi enough to keep him and then throwing a lesser contract at the next best swing man that was available at the time. This just looks stupid to me, and about 75% of this board. It definatley doesn't look like a team willing to do anything to win a championship... but let's be honest they haven't looked like that in years.
ParniValjak
All-Star
Why is Petrie getting blamed for this when this is clearly has Maloof fingure prints all over this. From what I am reading and what VF says that there will be no sign and trade that means that we did not want to get salary back. This is talent bleeding all over again because the Maloofs not Petrie did not want to spend money. The Maloofs lied yet again and we are blaming Petrie for this
I have been saying for a long time now that we will NOT re-sign Bonzi because Maloofs have become tightasses that are more concerned about luxury tax than winning. I got shot down in flames by those that know best
because Maloofs were apparently going to give their guy (read Musselman) every chance to win and they said they wanted Bonzi back. HOGWASH!!!!!!Maloofs have over the years shown that they are not willing to sign their own FAs. We have lost a LOT of talent over the years because they didn't want to pay up. They are fast becoming the laughing stock of the NBA with their Sterling like financing
walker60
Bench
Look, Bonzi said he wanted to come back and that he didn't care about the money. Well, that is looking like hogwash right now. He obviously was frustrated at what we were offering him. Petrie gave him an offer that was higher than anyone else's. Bonzi didn't accept.
What else could Petrie have done??
Petrie decided to move on, before even more FA's were off the board. We couldn't wait all summer for Bonzi to decide. He got a young player who can play 3 positions, and most importanty, can play PG. Our backcourt is now set for the next 3 seasons or so. The offseason isn't over, we can still make trades and use whatever of the MLE and LLE we have left. We aren't done yet.
What else could Petrie have done??
Petrie decided to move on, before even more FA's were off the board. We couldn't wait all summer for Bonzi to decide. He got a young player who can play 3 positions, and most importanty, can play PG. Our backcourt is now set for the next 3 seasons or so. The offseason isn't over, we can still make trades and use whatever of the MLE and LLE we have left. We aren't done yet.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
That's definitely comforting.
The Maloofs lied? Because they don't want to pay Bonzi a Peja-like contract?
Good lord, people. This is NOT the end of the bleeping world.
And look! In all the furor, you missed it!
We got POOH!!!
Seriously, lighten up, folks. There was a very good chance, based on Bonzi's playoff performance AND Peja's unbelievable deal, that Bonzi would want more than the Kings or any other team with a modicum of sense would want to pay. It sure seems like Petrie tried to negotiate a deal that Phillips and Bonzi just weren't going to take.
It happens.
We'll survive. And, again, remember - Salmons might well turn out to be just fine. We don't know yet.
Remember last year? The fuss about Wells? How he would destroy the franchise?
We signed Justin Williams and Pooh Jeter. It's still only July. Let's see what else happens before we start jumping off bridges.
Indeed, Petrie even talked about a trade or two supposedly, right?
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Who said that? Salmons will likely be backup 1/2, and Garcia the 2/3. That's like arguing Bobby vs. Hedo, etc.
LA King Fan II
Bench
I like Garcia. IMO he was on even terms with Kevin in all around contribution to the team BEFORE he sprained his damn ankle. He was driving and dishing, had heart and played defense. His long arms were a factor and he didn't have the benefit of a year of professional level body building to add muscle.
He shot like hell last year, but if that comes around for him and we lose him I believe the team will regret it. Could they possibly keep him now?
He shot like hell last year, but if that comes around for him and we lose him I believe the team will regret it. Could they possibly keep him now?
We got "pooh" alright.
In fact, scatology could be a theme with some of Petrie's moves in the past two years...
LA King Fan II
Bench
And it will be interesting to see the fecal point - i mean focal point - of the moves to ensue.
captain bill
All-Star
2 words: "Youth Movement."
I guess all the talk of blowing up the team and rebuilding pre-Artest finally got to Geoff's head. This roster looks very very young, and would look nice if we were a lottery team instead of an annual playoff team. Keep Bonzi and move Brad, we could contend. Now, any moves we're going to make are going to have to mean shuffling talent. Not only is this a decline in talent but a loss of a potentially valuable trade piece, which is why this may be the last move of the offseason- we can't trade Kevin, Mike, or Artest for a big. Essentially, someone has to want either Kenny or Brad if we want our shotblocker. Bonzi kept that hope alive, but now it's gone. With that in mind, I think that this roster looks like Geoff is banking on Amundson or Williams becoming a legit player to step in at some point next to Salmons and Martin- after, of course, Mike, Ron, Reef, and Brad have started to fall off in talent. Firing Adelman also makes more sense- he's probably not gonna want to rebuild again, and most teams get new coaches for bringing in a young batch of kids. Musselman seems to be the one to do that. If these moves this summer all pan it, it will be for the future. Ron Artest and Mike Bibby will not win a championship in Sacramento.
Or I could be entirely wrong and we could get Dwight Howard tommorow.
I guess all the talk of blowing up the team and rebuilding pre-Artest finally got to Geoff's head. This roster looks very very young, and would look nice if we were a lottery team instead of an annual playoff team. Keep Bonzi and move Brad, we could contend. Now, any moves we're going to make are going to have to mean shuffling talent. Not only is this a decline in talent but a loss of a potentially valuable trade piece, which is why this may be the last move of the offseason- we can't trade Kevin, Mike, or Artest for a big. Essentially, someone has to want either Kenny or Brad if we want our shotblocker. Bonzi kept that hope alive, but now it's gone. With that in mind, I think that this roster looks like Geoff is banking on Amundson or Williams becoming a legit player to step in at some point next to Salmons and Martin- after, of course, Mike, Ron, Reef, and Brad have started to fall off in talent. Firing Adelman also makes more sense- he's probably not gonna want to rebuild again, and most teams get new coaches for bringing in a young batch of kids. Musselman seems to be the one to do that. If these moves this summer all pan it, it will be for the future. Ron Artest and Mike Bibby will not win a championship in Sacramento.
Or I could be entirely wrong and we could get Dwight Howard tommorow.
Starting Five
Bench
I think we have turned into tweener land.
Garcia brought the ball up the floor in probably half the games he played last season. Salmons career high in assists is 2.7 in 25 minutes per game. Doesn't scream "backup point guard" to me.
Bobby is 6'1". Hedo is 6' 10". Salmons is a 6'6" 2, 1 and 3. Garcia is a 6'7" 2, 3 and 1. They're not that much different.
One more thing. As a starter:
Garcia: 10.6 PPG, 38 min, .392 FG%, .219 3p%, 5.8 RB, 2.8 AST, 1.3 St
Salmons: 9.5 PPG, 32 min, .465 FG%, .400 3p%, 3.5 RB, 4.0 AST, .8 ST
Salmons is in his fourth full year and Garcia is in his first. Obviously Salmons is more efficient at this point and his assists are better, but I'd lay money on a second year Garcia putting up similar numbers in similar minutes.
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jdbraver
Guest
When did Petrie say anything about making future trades? I thought he mentioned that a sign and trade was unlikely because the additional salary would put us over the luxury tax.
ParniValjak
All-Star
When ever a player or his agent say that then you know they are telling fibbs. There is not a player out there that thinks its not about the money. They all know its about the money but not many of them say it publicly. Those that do are often ridculed and made out to be mercenaries.
From what I've gathered, because AI and Iguodala were ahead of him and had larger roles, and did most of the ballhandling on the team.
captain bill
All-Star
From a Sixers fan on Realgm:
"Gentlemen and Ladies:
I almost feel bad for you, but considering our experience with C-Webb's defense, one good turn deserves another.
John Salmons is universally hated in Philadelphia as a dog with an attitude. He is arguably the worst defensive player to wear a Sixers uniform in the recent history of the franchise, worse that C-Webb and with none of the class and heart.
He single-handedly lost 5-10 games for us last year by his lack of hustle and his matador defense. Allen Iverson calls him a 'girl'. We can't wait until Ron gets his piece. And he makes Kenny Thomas look like an all star. You've got him for three years? four years? five years?
Good luck. We'll be watching closely."
most encouraging. Clarifies why Petrie likes him a bit tho
"Gentlemen and Ladies:
I almost feel bad for you, but considering our experience with C-Webb's defense, one good turn deserves another.
John Salmons is universally hated in Philadelphia as a dog with an attitude. He is arguably the worst defensive player to wear a Sixers uniform in the recent history of the franchise, worse that C-Webb and with none of the class and heart.
He single-handedly lost 5-10 games for us last year by his lack of hustle and his matador defense. Allen Iverson calls him a 'girl'. We can't wait until Ron gets his piece. And he makes Kenny Thomas look like an all star. You've got him for three years? four years? five years?
Good luck. We'll be watching closely."
most encouraging. Clarifies why Petrie likes him a bit tho
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Hmm...I sincerely doubt it. Maybe you are thinking of Shavlik Randolph or Steven Hunter?
Salmons is a guard, not a great body, not tall or strong enough to remotely contend on the front line. Poor rebounder for a guy his size, and his size is only 6'6". Can swing occassionally to SF, kind of, but even that is a stretch.
LA King Fan II
Bench
In that case is Garcia gone, Brick?
Tell me Magloire is coming and I'll accept it.
Tell me Magloire is coming and I'll accept it.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
This is encouraging news. Wonder what Artest will call him...
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