Kings going in the right direction?

[fnordius]

Trade artest and bibby for crap and get expiring contracts?

Well, since either Artest or Bibby could walk this summer, they have to be treated as expiring themselves. It would make no sense to trade them just for other expirings, unless one were worried that they'd exercise options to stay. But if the other expirings came with a couple of promising kids or draft picks, then it makes all the sense in the world. At least then, when July rolled around, we would have something. As things stand right now, July could arrive and leave us totally empty handed, and if being a Kings fan teaches one anything, it's that whatever can go wrong, probably will.

So that's why the talk of trading Ron and Mike. They're going to be leaving before long regardless, but we prevent a possible worst case scenario from cropping up.

 

[VF21]

As things stand right now, July could arrive and leave us totally empty handed, and if being a Kings fan teaches one anything, it's that whatever can go wrong, probably will.

Ah, but if we follow that proviso, we'll trade both Mike and Ron for young talented players ... and they'll run into each other in the locker room, causing "turnips" that render them "Odenlike" for at least an entire season.

 

[hammystyle]

I don't like where we're headed at all. They are on course to be one of the best of the bad teams again. Meaning we're stuck in no-man's land. There's some solid young talent on the roster, but its mostly repiclative, and nowhere close to what I'd call the core of a championship or contender's roster. It feels like we're on a path to win 30-40 games for the next 5 years. Which is just awful.

 

[kennadog]

Ah, but if we follow that proviso, we'll trade both Mike and Ron for young talented players ... and they'll run into each other in the locker room, causing "turnips" that render them "Odenlike" for at least an entire season.

LOL! I probably shouldn't have voted (no), because most of the time answers just aren't that simple. I like the hiring of Theus, I like the development of some of the players, but generally much more has to happen for this team to have any real improvement in direction.

 

[kupman]

Thanks for all that I have replied and voted. It looks like everyone who intends on voting has voted.

I started this thread because last week when I was driving home from work I was listening to Grant and Mike talk about the Kings and I could have sworn that I heard Lamb say "I think 90% of Kings fans would agree that they are headed in the right direction," or something to that effect. I know "90%" was used. I thought it sounded crazy.

However, it got me thinking "what is the percentage?" I think that they are headed in the right direction, but have felt that I held a minority opinion around here - I thought it would be 50%-50% at the most.

I am actually surprised at how high the "I agree" percentage is. I did not want to make predictions or bring-up the Grant and Mike thing first because I thought that it might influence votes and/or turn this into a "those guys are idiots," discussion.

Thanks for participating. I found it interesting.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

LOL! I probably shouldn't have voted (no), because most of the time answers just aren't that simple. I like the hiring of Theus, I like the development of some of the players, but generally much more has to happen for this team to have any real improvement in direction.

This is pretty much the reason I voted 'yes'. Hiring Reggie Theus was the best thing for this franchise, and the right move to at least get things pointed in the right direction for the future. I think that as far as the rest of this season and the off-season, the thing for the 'right direction' should be ridding ourselves of old weight, even if it's just 1 player that fits that bill, that would be considered a success, in my mind. We wont really have anything substantial in the way of money to spend for another 2 years, but that doesnt have to stop our direction on our path at all, even if things are going slow until then, progress is progress...we had alot of waiting to do to get to 1998-99'. I just hope its not that long until we're there again...I probably couldnt take making the playoffs only 2 times in 14 years...again.

 

[CruzDude]

New direction is quickly defined as "New Coach", "New overall game plan (run and defend)", "New key players (Beno, Hawes, and to lesser extent Jones)", "New Starters" or rather having all players off the injured list.

Yes, Kings are going in new direction by default and by plan. To experiment with new starters for 30 games, win some games with them, then get last years starters back all at once, that alone creates a new direction.

But to go to the next level to me is equally important as the direction they go to get there. Coach Reggie has to find out what he has, how they mesh and what works before he can know what direction to go. Us fans, however, ain't got that patience and want something quicker. Ain't gonna happen dudes. But having said that.......................

What if Petrie pulls off a blockbuster trade, not that I have a clue about any nor am I suggesting one, but for the sake of argument, lets say he does and both Bibby and RonRon leave, and a big name starter comes our way and Beno/Salmons/Jones have to step up. That can be a new direction that is also getting up to the next level quickly. Just a thought.

The Kings don't have a choice of direction yet until they can get a hard and fast feel on what they have for the first time this year. And 5-6 games in with 3 new starters is not gonna do that for a bit yet. So such it up guys and gals and let's see what happens mid-February.

 

[AyeCarly]

I think we're going in the right direction, in general. We're a better team than last year, maybe not record wise yet, but in the way we compete and the way the coach is getting the most out of Cisco, Salmons, Beno and the bench. Cisco and Salmons have definitely moved up a notch in my book.

Now while it may seem we're standing still or even regressing by starting Mike and Ron. Fact is, to get them traded we need to start them and showcase them. If we benched them, which logic suggests, based on the improved team play without them, we would be lowering their trade values. Who wants to trade for guys that are on a sub .500 team's bench?

 

[Glenn]

I am actually surprised at how high the "I agree" percentage is. I did not want to make predictions or bring-up the Grant and Mike thing first because I thought that it might influence votes and/or turn this into a "those guys are idiots," discussion.

Thanks for participating. I found it interesting.

I'm not surprised. I also found it a bit reassuring but then that's me.