Kings Bench Needs Major, Major Help!!!
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Bricklayer
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thesanityannex said:
Not Spree. There are levels. That's more like trying to reform Terrel Owens. Spree's too old and too smart to change his ways now. Indeed sees no need to and is thoroughly convinced that he is right and "the man" has always been wrong. You kind of have to have a "bad boy" admit there might be a problem before you can have any hope of reforming him. Spree, on the other hand...well, he's just Spree.
GoGoGadget
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PixelPusher said:I can't resist. I have to ask...
Latrell Spreewell or Tony Massenburg?
Spree's Pipi Longstocking braids alone give Massenburg the edge.
slugking50
All-Star
Why not try and bring the Sherrif out of retirement? Im sure he could give us a few.
Purple Reign
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VF21 said:I'd bring back Keon Clark before I'd choose to let Sprewell wear a Kings uniform...
You are honestly telling me that if Geoff Petrie stepped to the podium tommorrow and announced that the Kings have signed Latrell Sprewell for the veteran minimum for the remainder of the season, you would not welcome him? I would not only welcome him, he would be the first perimeter player off of the bench!!! Forget about off court comments. And the Carlisimo thing was 8 years ago.
He plays hard
He competes, playing to win
He is athletic in spite of his age
He works hard on the defensive end
Here are the bench numbers last night for Martin and Garcia:
1-7 FG
0-3 3 PT
6 rebounds (all by Martin)
2 assists
1 turnover
Not bad considering what we have been seeing, but I have no confidence that either of these guys can produce when they are called upon. Now I do not deny that these players will be good players at some point, especially Garcia. I like Garcia much more than I do Martin. But this is not the developmental league. The Kings need to win RIGHT NOW!!! They need help on that bench.
Purple Reign said:
They need help on the bench. They do not need someone who - for reason or reasons unknown - is pretty much being snubbed BY THE ENTIRE LEAGUE.
I'm sorry. I thought you were interested in hearing what other people thought about your comments. I didn't know we had to pretty much rubber stamp our agreement to your comments.
IF Geoff Petrie decided Latrell Sprewell was what the Kings needed, I would be forced - once again - to question his sanity. I would not, however, form a concrete opinion about Sprewell's performance AS A KING until he had actually performed as a King.
At this point, however, it's all conjecture and I do NOT agree that Sprewell would be worth the trouble. And at this point, your comment that he is athletic despite his age is becoming less and less applicable as time goes on... he's getting older, more out of condition, etc.
Fear the Putin
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I dont understand why you wouldnt let Spree into Sacramento...!
yes he has a bad attitude....wait, didnt Bonzi have a bad attitude also?
Sprewell as out backup SG/SF is a blessing to anyone
You cannot imagine what he can bring to the table...
If he gets to sign a contract with us, he will be grateful for that...
He will be just another Bobby Jackson (in terms of scoring)
I personally wish that Spree can be our backup SG/SF
yes he has a bad attitude....wait, didnt Bonzi have a bad attitude also?
Sprewell as out backup SG/SF is a blessing to anyone
You cannot imagine what he can bring to the table...
If he gets to sign a contract with us, he will be grateful for that...
He will be just another Bobby Jackson (in terms of scoring)
I personally wish that Spree can be our backup SG/SF
piksi
Hall of Famer
1 TeAm DiMe 0 said:I dont understand why you wouldnt let Spree into Sacramento...!
yes he has a bad attitude....wait, didnt Bonzi have a bad attitude also?
Sprewell as out backup SG/SF is a blessing to anyone
You cannot imagine what he can bring to the table...
If he gets to sign a contract with us, he will be grateful for that...
He will be just another Bobby Jackson (in terms of scoring)
I personally wish that Spree can be our backup SG/SF
I think that You just insulted Bobby Jackson - badly.
We already have 2 ticking bombs on the bench. We don't need another one.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Well, one thing of Spree's behalf is that his has always had the respect of his teammates.
Purple Reign
Starter
I think the Sprewell to Sacramento is a dead deal once you read the following story. First of all it looks like "Spree" will not come off the bench and neither will he play for the veteran minumum.....
Last call
Salary, playing demands keep Sprewell at home
Posted: Friday November 18, 2005 3:20PM; Updated: Friday November 18, 2005 5:44PM
The dollar amounts have changed, but the rhetoric is still the same from the Latrell Sprewell camp a year after the shooting guard turned down a three-year, $21 million contract extension offer from the Minnesota Timberwolves. Nearly a month into the season, Sprewell, who infamously explained his rejection of Minnesota's overture by saying he had "a family to feed," is unemployed and, according to his agent, willing to sit out the season rather than play for the NBA veteran's minimum of $1.1 million.
"Anyone who thinks he should play for that, that's absurd," Sprewell's representative, Bob Gist, told SI.com this week. "He might as well retire."
"Latrell doesn't need the money that badly. To go from being offered $7 million to taking $1 million, that would be a slap in the face."
(Purple Reign comments - "this dude is straight trippin". Retire then.... and spend the rest of your life putting spinners on cars.)
Gist said he considers the offer rejected last year a fair one. "The Timberwolves' offer was close to a [fair] valuation," he said. (Sprewell averaged 12.8 points and 2.2 assists in 80 games for the T'wolves in 2004-05.) "If you look at his stats, I think $7 million - $10 million [per year] is what veterans like him are commanding."
Gist said the Detroit Pistons, L.A. Lakers and Denver Nuggets have expressed interest in signing Sprewell since NBA training camps opened in October, but none was a good match for his client. Salary cap inflexibility hampered the Lakers, and Sprewell balked at Detroit's intention to use him as a sixth man off the bench. "Denver had a strong interest," Gist said. "I'm not sure who dropped the ball there, my client or the Nuggets."
Gist also said he doesn't believe Sprewell is being blackballed because teams feel he carries too much baggage to sign. "Any G.M. that tells you that, he's not real bright on the facts," said Gist. "I can understand fans saying that. But people in the industry, who have accesss to information about what kind of guy Latrell really is, that's irresponsible."
Truth be told, there is no incentive for Sprewell to sign right now. Because the $1 million veteran's exception is not prorated, Sprewell could sign for that exception and receive the full $1 million whether it is tomorrow or it is March. The best bet for Sprewell now is to stay in shape and wait for a contender to make a major trade or suffer a major injury that will open a hole at shooting guard or small forward that he can fill. That also would allow Sprwell to be received as a savior, and he might find upward room to negotiate a more appealing contract.
(Purple Reign's comments...."that leaves Sacramento out!!!! Unless Bonzi Wells goes down for the season.)
For now, though, Gist said Sprewell is working out at home in Milwaukee, and is prepared to stay there for a while. "I think he can wait the season out," said the agent. "He doesn't need the money, not where he can play for a million dollars."
Last call
Salary, playing demands keep Sprewell at home
Posted: Friday November 18, 2005 3:20PM; Updated: Friday November 18, 2005 5:44PM
The dollar amounts have changed, but the rhetoric is still the same from the Latrell Sprewell camp a year after the shooting guard turned down a three-year, $21 million contract extension offer from the Minnesota Timberwolves. Nearly a month into the season, Sprewell, who infamously explained his rejection of Minnesota's overture by saying he had "a family to feed," is unemployed and, according to his agent, willing to sit out the season rather than play for the NBA veteran's minimum of $1.1 million.
"Anyone who thinks he should play for that, that's absurd," Sprewell's representative, Bob Gist, told SI.com this week. "He might as well retire."
"Latrell doesn't need the money that badly. To go from being offered $7 million to taking $1 million, that would be a slap in the face."
(Purple Reign comments - "this dude is straight trippin". Retire then.... and spend the rest of your life putting spinners on cars.)
Gist said he considers the offer rejected last year a fair one. "The Timberwolves' offer was close to a [fair] valuation," he said. (Sprewell averaged 12.8 points and 2.2 assists in 80 games for the T'wolves in 2004-05.) "If you look at his stats, I think $7 million - $10 million [per year] is what veterans like him are commanding."
Gist said the Detroit Pistons, L.A. Lakers and Denver Nuggets have expressed interest in signing Sprewell since NBA training camps opened in October, but none was a good match for his client. Salary cap inflexibility hampered the Lakers, and Sprewell balked at Detroit's intention to use him as a sixth man off the bench. "Denver had a strong interest," Gist said. "I'm not sure who dropped the ball there, my client or the Nuggets."
Gist also said he doesn't believe Sprewell is being blackballed because teams feel he carries too much baggage to sign. "Any G.M. that tells you that, he's not real bright on the facts," said Gist. "I can understand fans saying that. But people in the industry, who have accesss to information about what kind of guy Latrell really is, that's irresponsible."
Truth be told, there is no incentive for Sprewell to sign right now. Because the $1 million veteran's exception is not prorated, Sprewell could sign for that exception and receive the full $1 million whether it is tomorrow or it is March. The best bet for Sprewell now is to stay in shape and wait for a contender to make a major trade or suffer a major injury that will open a hole at shooting guard or small forward that he can fill. That also would allow Sprwell to be received as a savior, and he might find upward room to negotiate a more appealing contract.
(Purple Reign's comments...."that leaves Sacramento out!!!! Unless Bonzi Wells goes down for the season.)
For now, though, Gist said Sprewell is working out at home in Milwaukee, and is prepared to stay there for a while. "I think he can wait the season out," said the agent. "He doesn't need the money, not where he can play for a million dollars."
This is funny ... and sad at the same time.
I don't know who is more delusional, Spre or his agent.
He was offered $7 million and didn't take it. Now his stock is dropping like a rock. I'd play Bozo the one-legged monkey before I brought Latrell Sprewell to the Kings.
Not in my book. His ego has written checks way in excess of his true value.
Have a nice retirement, Spre.
I don't know who is more delusional, Spre or his agent.
He was offered $7 million and didn't take it. Now his stock is dropping like a rock. I'd play Bozo the one-legged monkey before I brought Latrell Sprewell to the Kings.
Not in my book. His ego has written checks way in excess of his true value.
Have a nice retirement, Spre.
slugking50
All-Star
And the Sprewell insanity continues.......
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/367267p-312621c.html
Interesting. If that develops further, Petrie should look into that.
I like Hayes.
http://www.hoopshype.com/players/jarvis_hayes.htm
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jarvis_hayes/index.html
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Bricklayer
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Kings113 said:
Yes I noted that. But it was a throway line at then end fot he very same Mitch Lawrence article as the guys quitting on Adelman (right next to that quote actually). And just as dubious. Might have been no mor than Mitch just looking at box scores and going "that must mean...".
But just for kicks...
Kenny Thomas for Etan Thomas and Jarvis Hayes works salarywise as long as those two are out of favor.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Bricklayer said:Yes I noted that. But it was a throway line at then end fot he very same Mitch Lawrence article as the guys quitting on Adelman (right next to that quote actually). And just as dubious. Might have been no mor than Mitch just looking at box scores and going "that must mean...".
But just for kicks...
Kenny Thomas for Etan Thomas and Jarvis Hayes works salarywise as long as those two are out of favor.
Well, I remember during the summer they said they were looking for a more bigs that can hit the outside shot, but I think it would take more than that though. I would love that deal, I think it does help both teams.
T
thesanityannex
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*calls "kevin martin is running out of time hotline"
Bibby-4-Three
G-League
Yeah but if Kevin punches Robert Horry tomorrow just like Doug did Rick Fox...I'll be much more likely to want to keep him around.
A
AriesMar27
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6th said:
pretty much yeah..... martin hart and thomas.... sucking it up together....
6th said:
It wasn't really a matter of having them on the court at the same time. It was more about them each being totally outclassed by the players they were matched against. Especially in Kevin's case. Kevin played more minutes than he would have because he actually came in with Bonzi and Bibby for a bit when Peja's finger got Fortsonized.
KT was okay, but not remarkably so...
The sad thing was that if you glanced at the bench, no one immediately came to mind who could have done better than what those guys were doing. Skinner didn't play at all, which was understandable.
Our bench just has a LOT of problems. We need someone like Bobby Jackson back - but I don't regret the Wells trade. Quite a paradox, huh?
Purple Reign
Starter
help!!!!!!
atxrocker
Starter
Purple Reign said:help!!!!!!
I second that! Wow, what a horrible bench. Really makes me question GP's decision to get this group of guys together. Not working. For K-mart improving so much over the summer, Cisco so advanced, KT of starter quality and Skinner and Hart supposed to be so good at what they do NONE of it is showing on the court. JUST BAD. Noone is showing me anything out of the bunch. Trade them all. We are not going to win without considerable contributions from the bench. Please!
Diabeticwonder
Bench
At this point I'm not all against giving Ronny Price a few minutes to show what he can do. I know he's an undrafted rookie, but he is an offensive minded player who can hit the outside shot better than what Hart has shown. However, the biggest concern right now, as has been pointed out, is the backup 2.
