Kessler Edwards
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So Edwards is in a strange situation. His first season he was on a two-way that eventually got converted to a remainder-of-season full NBA deal. This offseason, he signed a deal for one year plus the team option. This means that:
1) He is on a 1-year deal (the option doesn't count)
2) The Nets would have Early Bird rights if he finished the season with them
The NBA was apparently concerned that teams would sign players to one-year deals to get Early Bird rights (or Full Bird rights) and then trade the player to a team eager to have those EB/FB rights. So under the circumstances listed above, the NBA strips "Bird service time" to prevent teams from "sneaking into" Bird rights without a two-year deal. Because the Bird service is stripped, the player has to agree to the trade.
Edwards will be eligible to be an RFA at the end of his contract (this year or next) by virtue of having <=3 years of NBA service time. But if we extend the QO, we still have to have a salary cap exception to match any offer sheet, or to sign him outright. The Gilbert Arenas clause guarantees that any offer sheet's first year can't exceed the MLE, so we would always have some option to resign him (though at this point such a large offer seems unlikely). Note that you cannot "spend whatever you want" to sign/match an RFA - you have to have an exception. Usually we think of RFAs as players coming off of their rookie deals (four years without changing teams as a free agent, so Full Bird Rights), but for second rounders this often isn't the case and they don't have Full Bird. But you have to use some sort of exception to make the signing.
For example:
If we DON'T pick up Edwards' option, we will have "Non-Bird" rights on him, which means we can sign him starting up to 120% of his previous salary or the QO (whichever is greater), <= 4 years, 105% max raises
If we DO pick up Edwards' option, we will have Early Bird rights at the end of his deal, which means we can sign him starting up to 105% of the average salary (this would be much more than the other EB criterion, 175% of his last year's salary), 2-4 years, 108% max raises
So really what Edwards gave up in consenting to the trade, wasn't the ability to be offered ~$10M by the Nets this summer (they wouldn't do that due to the team option at a much lower salary) but rather up to a max salary two summers from now. But since that seems really unlikely to happen, in essence he's giving up...nothing.
1) He is on a 1-year deal (the option doesn't count)
2) The Nets would have Early Bird rights if he finished the season with them
The NBA was apparently concerned that teams would sign players to one-year deals to get Early Bird rights (or Full Bird rights) and then trade the player to a team eager to have those EB/FB rights. So under the circumstances listed above, the NBA strips "Bird service time" to prevent teams from "sneaking into" Bird rights without a two-year deal. Because the Bird service is stripped, the player has to agree to the trade.
Edwards will be eligible to be an RFA at the end of his contract (this year or next) by virtue of having <=3 years of NBA service time. But if we extend the QO, we still have to have a salary cap exception to match any offer sheet, or to sign him outright. The Gilbert Arenas clause guarantees that any offer sheet's first year can't exceed the MLE, so we would always have some option to resign him (though at this point such a large offer seems unlikely). Note that you cannot "spend whatever you want" to sign/match an RFA - you have to have an exception. Usually we think of RFAs as players coming off of their rookie deals (four years without changing teams as a free agent, so Full Bird Rights), but for second rounders this often isn't the case and they don't have Full Bird. But you have to use some sort of exception to make the signing.
For example:
If we DON'T pick up Edwards' option, we will have "Non-Bird" rights on him, which means we can sign him starting up to 120% of his previous salary or the QO (whichever is greater), <= 4 years, 105% max raises
If we DO pick up Edwards' option, we will have Early Bird rights at the end of his deal, which means we can sign him starting up to 105% of the average salary (this would be much more than the other EB criterion, 175% of his last year's salary), 2-4 years, 108% max raises
So really what Edwards gave up in consenting to the trade, wasn't the ability to be offered ~$10M by the Nets this summer (they wouldn't do that due to the team option at a much lower salary) but rather up to a max salary two summers from now. But since that seems really unlikely to happen, in essence he's giving up...nothing.
Assuming we pick up his option for next year, he would still be eligible to be an RFA in the summer of '24. So if we were to give him the QO, the Gilbert Arenas provision would kick in, and no team would be able to make an offer larger than we could match with the MLE.
Of course, we're putting about 5 or 6 carts in front of the horse here - Edwards is pretty unlikely to break out to where he would command an MLE-level contract anytime soon.
Of course, we're putting about 5 or 6 carts in front of the horse here - Edwards is pretty unlikely to break out to where he would command an MLE-level contract anytime soon.
So basically what you are saying is the middle manager is finding talent that he might be able to keep for a while for cost controlled means, that might fit his vision, and might be a contributor for a contending type team on his current team's timeline?
The middlest of middle managing folks!! No vision!! Gone by AS break.
The middlest of middle managing folks!! No vision!! Gone by AS break.
I just don't see it with Edwards.
He adds needed lenth to the wing.
He adds shooting.
We need perimeter defense.
We need rebounding.
We need athleticism.
We don't need someone that brings the weak sh1t and gets blocked repeatedly on dunk attempts.
I was wrong about Lyles, I sure hope I am wrong again.
He adds needed lenth to the wing.
He adds shooting.
We need perimeter defense.
We need rebounding.
We need athleticism.
We don't need someone that brings the weak sh1t and gets blocked repeatedly on dunk attempts.
I was wrong about Lyles, I sure hope I am wrong again.
The Nets sent $2.58MM in cash to the Kings in the Kessler Edwards trade that was completed on Tuesday, reports ESPN’s Bobby Marks (via Twitter). That money is enough to cover Edwards’ remaining salary for 2022/23 as well as his $1.93MM team option for ’23/24 if Sacramento chooses to pick it up.
