Beasley is also a couple years younger than Thompson. It's not even 10 games in to the year and you want to declare thompson the better deal right away?
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Beasley is also a couple years younger than Thompson. It's not even 10 games in to the year and you want to declare thompson the better deal right away?
Roundtable: Early rookie returns, East improvements and more
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/11/18/writers.roundtable/index.html#
1. Which rookie has impressed you the most so far?
Chris Mannix: Several rookies have been impressive (Mayo, Rose, Beasley, Gasol), but the one I have been most impressed with is Jason Thompson. When the Kings took Thompson with the 12th pick, I was ready to engrave his name on the 2008 Draft Bust Award right then and there. But Thompson has been solid and, at times, spectacular. He is averaging 11.5 points and 6.5 rebounds in 25.6 minutes, and has shown the ability to swing between both forward positions. He may not turn out to be a star like Rose or Beasley, but the Kings may have found themselves a starting forward for the next decade.
Steve Aschburner: It's hard to quibble with Rose's early production while shouldering the pressure of being the No. 1 pick. Mayo is getting every opportunity to succeed in Memphis and mostly seizing them. But the guy who caught my eye on opening night was Sacramento's Thompson. He had 18 and 10 against Minnesota, and totaled 31 points and 20 boards in back-to-back games last week against the Pistons and Clippers. He hasn't blocked a shot in more than two weeks, but he's got a long, lively build and a swell future.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/11/18/writers.roundtable/index.html#
1. Which rookie has impressed you the most so far?
Chris Mannix: Several rookies have been impressive (Mayo, Rose, Beasley, Gasol), but the one I have been most impressed with is Jason Thompson. When the Kings took Thompson with the 12th pick, I was ready to engrave his name on the 2008 Draft Bust Award right then and there. But Thompson has been solid and, at times, spectacular. He is averaging 11.5 points and 6.5 rebounds in 25.6 minutes, and has shown the ability to swing between both forward positions. He may not turn out to be a star like Rose or Beasley, but the Kings may have found themselves a starting forward for the next decade.
Steve Aschburner: It's hard to quibble with Rose's early production while shouldering the pressure of being the No. 1 pick. Mayo is getting every opportunity to succeed in Memphis and mostly seizing them. But the guy who caught my eye on opening night was Sacramento's Thompson. He had 18 and 10 against Minnesota, and totaled 31 points and 20 boards in back-to-back games last week against the Pistons and Clippers. He hasn't blocked a shot in more than two weeks, but he's got a long, lively build and a swell future.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
I would take Thompson over Beasley, mostly because I think that
Beasley is a true SF, and said so before the draft. He's only around 6'7.5" without shoes. Makes him around Kenny Thomas size. That doesn't make Thompson better than him, it just means Thompson fills a need for us at the PF position.
I agree that it might take a couple of years to really make a judgement.
Beasley is a true SF, and said so before the draft. He's only around 6'7.5" without shoes. Makes him around Kenny Thomas size. That doesn't make Thompson better than him, it just means Thompson fills a need for us at the PF position.
I agree that it might take a couple of years to really make a judgement.
The key to Thompson's early successes is his " all-out effort " whenever he plays. The kid is a workhorse. The Kings should be happy it was him that they got.
Maybe Beasley has more moves and talent than Thompson ( for now ), but if Thompson continues to exert the kind of extra effort he gives now, I wouldn't be surprise if Thompson turns out more talented and valuable than Beasley in the near future.
With Thompson's skillset and intensity, he would be at best a Chris Webber if he can add more offensive skills in his arsenal. A Dennis Rodman at best if he stops learning offensive skills, but continues to learn the art of rebounding. The very least a Boris Diaw, if he stops and never improve on his skills.
Maybe Beasley has more moves and talent than Thompson ( for now ), but if Thompson continues to exert the kind of extra effort he gives now, I wouldn't be surprise if Thompson turns out more talented and valuable than Beasley in the near future.
With Thompson's skillset and intensity, he would be at best a Chris Webber if he can add more offensive skills in his arsenal. A Dennis Rodman at best if he stops learning offensive skills, but continues to learn the art of rebounding. The very least a Boris Diaw, if he stops and never improve on his skills.
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Aenadin
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HighFlyingMonkey
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Thompson's ceiling is C-Webb, but his basement is Channing Frye. He'll be closer to the former if he stays aggressive attacking the hoop (and learns to finish with his left hand), but if he decides to be the jumpshooting softie, then he'll be the latter.
JerN820
Bench
Exactly. Thompson should easily be starting and Mikki should barely be seeing the floor. Not hard to see that JT was better than Mikki from day one. Plus it's just wasting time having Mikki out there as much as he is.
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You do realize Geoff Petrie picked Jason Thompson intentionally, right? It was a number of fans who had no idea what the Kings were doing selecting him - at least not until they actually saw him play for the first time.
kupman
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I am remember reading chad ford's comments the day after the draft...LOL:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/round?draftyear=2008
http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/tracker/round?draftyear=2008
captain bill
All-Star
I remember the 100 "Fire Petrie" threads that got started that day, people were furious. Spencer Hawes? Jason Thompson? Two wasted draft picks for sure.
PurpleHaze
All-Star
I don't want to start another thread but... NO MORE Mikki Moore!! NO Matter What!! That's it!! OVER, DONE!! Jason Thompson is a walking double-double nearly every night out, besides his amazing versatility. Donte has a ways to go, Spence can slide in and out at C/PF - but JT is there - completely - totally... JT must remain a starter! If Moore can't take it like a professional stick him down there at the end of the bench with K-dog and/or look to trade him.
captain bill
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HighFlyingMonkey
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AriesMar27
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Sa-Da-Tay....
Eh? There were two posters who wanted Petrie's head, but most of us were reasonably happy with the pick. http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27824
JerN820
Bench
I remember the 100 "Fire Petrie" threads that got started that day, people were furious. Spencer Hawes? Jason Thompson? Two wasted draft picks for sure.
You can throw the draft analysts in there too. Boy did Petre shut those "experts" up or what with these two picks? I remember reading one article where a columnist for CNNSI stated that when they called Thompson's name and Stern said that he was not in the building, that said it all. So this begs the question, how do you get to be an expert or write columns and have strong opinions when you cant even be objective? Draft picks are totally hit or miss (more so in the NBA than the NFL) and you just never know. Too bad these fools dont understand that. If you could go back on here, I actually praised Petrie on the pick. I like how Thompson had proven himself against the tougher competition and outdualed Beasley in their meeting. A lot of these smaller conference teams are totally underrated as well. I.E. Normally half of the Missouri Valley Conf. could take on most of the Big Ten.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well...this was actually Jason's first strong start in a long time -- Clippers game really was the last (and the only other double double on the year). But I certainly agree about the Mikki sentiment. Bringing him back in as the starter now would just be stupid. Take the injury as a blessing and an excuse, and let's get this kid out there for a full season and see what he can do.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
There's always going to be a certain amount of inconsistancy with any young player, so no surprise there. The thing is, that even on his bad nights, he's better or just as good as Mikkie. The kid really needs to work on his left hand. I've seen him use it a couple of times, but I guess old habits are hard to break, as he inclined to switch to his right at the last moment. The league will catch on and make it more and more difficult for him.
I think his defense is improving, so the more playing time the better. Even at their worst, Hawes and Thompson at least bring energy on to the floor.
By the way. Is it just me, but does it appear that Miller has been sleepwalking through half the game?
gunks
Hall of Famer
I agree that Jason should start. He already brings more to the table than Moore does. Also, has much more upside and potential to improve, whereas I think Moore is pretty much capped out on his skills.
I've noticed that when Reynolds says things like "Jason should use his left hand more," and "he should develop a short hook," then boom, next game he IS doing those things. Shows a strong desire to learn and improve, and the ability to do so.
I've noticed that when Reynolds says things like "Jason should use his left hand more," and "he should develop a short hook," then boom, next game he IS doing those things. Shows a strong desire to learn and improve, and the ability to do so.
Widowmaker2k
Bench
I'm blown away by how fast he seems to learn little things like this. When the season started, they were talking about how he needed to learn to shoot the mid-range jumper, and now that's a high percentage shot for him. Those kinds of little skills can take some players seasons to learn, and he picks them up relatively quickly.
If he can learn some post moves from Spencer...oh boy.
Widowmaker2k
Bench
TouchéIt would be nice if he'd learn to shoot free throws.
Though to be fair, the Kings have a long history of missing free throws.
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