Jarrett Jack
- Thread starter Smills91
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I think he COULD be. You gotta take the BPA in the lotto IMO, and that very well might NOT be a PG. So in that instance, I think Jack > Udrih and Griffin/Monroe/Hill/Harden whoever may or may not be that star player. But you can't focus on Need when you're lacking as much star power as our roster is. Jack is affordable and could be had as a high production, low salary player. The best kind of asset to have on your team.
nbrans
All-Star
I don't think he's any better than Beno. I mean, if he's coming in at a low low price I guess it wouldn't really hurt, but he's already 25 and hasn't improved much at all since he's come into the league.
I know people are frustrated with Beno, but the grass isn't always greener. Jack's 11.8 ppg and 3.8 assists isn't any better than Beno's 11.0 ppg and 4.3 assists in fewer minutes.
Jack's a better defender, but...... enh.
Arby's Roast Beef
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I really liked Jack coming out of the draft--you knew that his bottom was going to be a solid roleplayer right away, although his ceiling wasn't that high due to his lack of good athletic indicators. In a draft where talented athletic run-wild guards unleashed their flaws this way and that way, it was refreshing to see a tallish guard play "the right way", with few flaws and pretty good talent. While he hasn't proved me wrong, we just don't need a player like him. He's sort of straddling the line between starter and backup here (I'm leaning more towards backup), and he's not a great point guard--merely a solid one at best, who can play the position adequately. In addition, his shooting is middling, is finishing ability is average, and he has average athleticism and footspeed. Still fairly young, but at this point with his lack of substantial improvements in certain areas and in terms of his overall game, five years from now he is probably what you see right now. And we are not in the market for a stopgap point guard or a safe pick--we really need a good point guard who can actually playmake, and the route to go for that one is perhaps via the draft.
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Jack = Beno = Drew Gooden = all the other ok MLE type guys in the league caught between having starter talent and having backup talent, and not really excelling at either. He's solid, but he's got no calling card, got beat out by Steve Blake in Portland, and generally doesn't accomplish anything for you as a starter. Better not to clog the cap or clog the roster wiht that level player until/unless you are only a move or two away from being over the top.
Nighthawk1
Starter
Did Jarret Jack have a good game earlier this week or something...?
No the FUNDAMENTAL difference is that Jack actually plays some solid defense. Something that is NECESSARY from the Point position to excel.
You might want to check out the past month, since he's been a starter in Indiana. Quite impressive numbers, and I've always felt Jack was an underrated player in Portland in his time there as well.
nbrans
All-Star
It's always hilarious when you start capitalizing things. NOW we're going to agree with you!! Fear the caps-lock!!!
Anyway, he plays solid defense, but he's middling. Even with the defense he's a marginal player. We don't need any more marginal players, we need someone who is markedly better than Beno. A tiny upgrade isn't really worth the trouble.
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
are we that desperate for mediocrity??? show some patience and wait for the draft and the expirings to come off the book. this is like settling for that 19" tv when you want the 60" big screen tv. just stop, blowing the MLE on these crappy players.
Arby's Roast Beef
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There's only so much smarts can do for you--Jack was a very good defender for the Yellow Jackets, and gets by well in the league especially on strength matchups, but when most of the point guards in the league are speedsters or athletic freaks, there's only so much you can do. Jack's not bad, but not great either--he's average to good on most nights.
In fact, Gooden is much the same way--he's actually a very solid athlete when it comes down to fundamentals, but too often he spaces out and loses concentration, and even when that doesn't happen he's not an intimidator who will suddenly block a shot out of nowhere or alter anything around the paint.
By the way, I'm not trying to disparage fundamentals--it's valuable, and in part among other things, it's giving these type of players MLE type deals that may bite GMs in their *** when they're investing in middling players rather than anything with potential star quality. My preference is a player with great defensive fundamentals but few athletic gifts over a player with natural gifts for defense but who never learns how to play it properly, but you can never tell. Some players flash more potential than others on defense and have the physical gifts (George Hill of the Spurs and Shannon Brown of the Lakers comes to mind), and when that happens I'd prefer those players over guys like Jack and Gooden. Of course, that's only one part of the equation, and their offensive skills also have to be evaluated into the equation, but if we were just comparing that aspect of the game, that's my preference.
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Nighthawk1
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I know what he's been doing, which is why i said what I said. It seems there are posts like this anytime a potential FA has a decent game
Sarunas
G-League
I went to school up in Oregon the last 4 years, so I watched a lot of blazer games just because they were always on. I dont think Jarrett Jack is really worth our time in rebuilding. He is alright, but nothing about him really impressed me at anytime in watching his games with portland. He was pretty unpopular with the fans just because of his play sometimes. I'd rather look elsewhere. He reminds me of a young kirk hinrich...we'd be just as good living with beno for a bit longer.
Kev.in
Starter
We already have enough backup point guards on the roster. Jarret Jack is not the starting point guard of a winning team.
He's making a little bit over $1 mil this season and that's good value. It's kind of depressing that he's putting up similar stats to Beno (and is probably a better player) at 1/5th of the price. If we could go back in time, never sign Beno and get Jack at that price, it would be the ideal situation.
He's making a little bit over $1 mil this season and that's good value. It's kind of depressing that he's putting up similar stats to Beno (and is probably a better player) at 1/5th of the price. If we could go back in time, never sign Beno and get Jack at that price, it would be the ideal situation.
rainmaker
Hall of Famer
I wouldn't resign J. Jack. I don't think he can get much better as a player. He could potential be a spark off the bench and give us 12-15 pts a game, but I would rather have Gonte take those shots next year.
I would much rather have Donte play a big part in the rotation next year. His ceiling is much higher than J Jacks talent wise.
I would much rather have Donte play a big part in the rotation next year. His ceiling is much higher than J Jacks talent wise.