In Petrie we trust

[sactownfan]

In light of the very early 09 draft threads popping up. I thought i'd be good to throw out that Petrie's got a plan and is the master of the draft!

after watching Thompson operate so far i think its safe to say Petrie did it again! Another Diamond in the rough! I thought it would be a good time to give credit to Geoff Petrie for a very successful draft. He got two players he coveted all along, with an additional first round pick next year. Plus ridding us of the headache that is Artest. Thus saving us from the unavoidable absolute blowup that would have happened if he was still here. Things could be worst guys!

Now Petries weakness's are obviously giving out the mid level to avg players, and gathering players that cant play defense or rebound. However i think Petrie realized its time to get some athleticism and rebounding so he drafted Thompson, plus Greene is a freak athlete too, but will just need some more coaching, he could become a good rebounder for a SF, hes got the height.

Unfortunately he once again handed Beno the mid level. But on the bright side, Beno is not gettin way over paid and should be very tradable. same with all the rest of the mid levels.

Ok so Petrie's on a roll with drafting talent and is wheeling and dealing with teams to clear cap space. Things suck now but i can see what hes doing behind the scenes.

I think this could end up being the most crucial draft in our teams rebuild. If things hold up we could very well end up battling for the #1 pick. I dont think we'll be the worst team this year, but the worst team hasn't won the #1 pick for awhile so??? We will most likely be in the top 5 worst teams.

SO IN PETRIE WE TRUST! People are saying this will be a weak draft. But like Thompson people didn't see his potential. But I believe Petrie will be able to make the most out of this top pick.

side note i read on ESPN that Brad Miller could be on the block, and if he is traded for more expiring contracts, youth or picks. we could be sitting pretty in 1-2 years. I could see Petrie making this happen if we're still at the bottom by all-star break, perhaps taking advantage of a wanna be contender.

 

[Denio]

side note i read on ESPN that Brad Miller could be on the block, and if he is traded for more expiring contracts, youth or picks. we could be sitting pretty in 1-2 years. I could see Petrie making this happen if we're still at the bottom by all-star break, perhaps taking advantage of a wanna be contender.

He might be traded already... just waiting for his suspension to be over before it is announced.

 

[One and Done]

These post-glory years have proved that Petrie has a great eye for talent, but his business decisions have been questionable at best.

 

[NoBonus]

He might be traded already... just waiting for his suspension to be over before it is announced.

True dat. But where?

 

[sactownfan]

his business decisions have been questionable at best.

i dont necessary agree. He Had to trade Webber. Philly ended up buying him out because they couldn't stand him, and he was terrible. Kenny Thomas was a bust but on the other hand corliss w. was alright. plus we were in the decline when that trade was made. signing Salmons was a good sign. Hes definitely tradable and is a great player on the cheap. Maybe not the SF of the future for the kings but again cheap. Moore was a last ditch desperation move to land a PF that wasn't Kenny Thomas. But moores contract is out of here soon. and isn't affecting anything. Beno looks to be the worst signing of all these guys. but like i said if he can get back to being an avg PG hes tradable.

Petrie has alot of good signings and trades in his history. Christie for the cat was a steal, Webber, Williams for Bibby, trading Bibby, and signing of Vlade Divac, the signing of christie, jim jackson, ect. look this is a rebuild and petrie has made some mistakes trying to patch things up but there not affecting the rebuild process. in fact you could argue that there helping because of the ability to draft the likes of Thompson, ect.

 

[Kingster]

He might be traded already... just waiting for his suspension to be over before it is announced.

Wouldn't that be nice...

 

[AriesMar27]

Petrie has alot of good signings and trades in his history. Christie for the cat was a steal, Webber, Williams for Bibby, trading Bibby, and signing of Vlade Divac, the signing of christie, jim jackson, ect. look this is a rebuild and petrie has made some mistakes trying to patch things up but there not affecting the rebuild process. in fact you could argue that there helping because of the ability to draft the likes of Thompson, ect.

all of those moves were horrible except signing vlade and the williams/bibby trade... mobley didnt stay after that 1st round exit, neither did bonzi or jim jackson... if petrie had held on to webber this team probably would have been well under the cap by now and wouldnt have wasted money on reef and moore...

lets not forget drafting douby.... horrible....

 

[rhythmless]

all of those moves were horrible except signing vlade and the williams/bibby trade... mobley didnt stay after that 1st round exit, neither did bonzi or jim jackson... if petrie had held on to webber this team probably would have been well under the cap by now and wouldnt have wasted money on reef and moore...

lets not forget drafting douby.... horrible....

drafting douby ahead of RONDO. ahead of marcus williams. both point guards, something we need right now.

petrie is not a schemer. he doesnt "make" things happen. he takes what he can get. pritchard he is not.

Webb - basically everyone on this board has deemed it a horrible trade. had we kept webb, we would have a huge ender, but we didnt, and turned that webb contract into kenny thomas. skinner turned into potapenko and monia. corliss left. thomas... STILL HERE

weve been over this a thousand times. petrie is a good gm, nothing more. he's made some good drafts, and bad drafts, hes turned our walking talent or downward talent into one year rents lately, which turned into nothing.

you shouldnt place so much faith on one man, especially one who's track record contains as much ups and downs as anyone else's.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

ahead of marcus williams

i would pick my grandma over williams. gstate wasted a 1st rounder on him.


Rondo hurts.

 

[sactownfan]

all of those moves were horrible except signing vlade and the williams/bibby trade... mobley didnt stay after that 1st round exit, neither did bonzi or jim jackson... if petrie had held on to webber this team probably would have been well under the cap by now and wouldnt have wasted money on reef and moore...

lets not forget drafting douby.... horrible....

umm ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

webber was the sec highest paid player in the nba next to shaq and was playing on one leg. worse yet is he was useless. the webber trade is the most iffy one out of the bunch i'll give you that but keep in mind that philly had to pay him tens of millions to leave town, thats how bad he was. Plus at the time Peja and him were fighting and we weren't sure what we wanted to do with peja yet.

Christie for Mobley was an awesome trade... Chirstie played maybe two game for the magic and then retired at the end of the year.

 

[Heuge]

umm ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

webber was the sec highest paid player in the nba next to shaq and was playing on one leg. worse yet is he was useless. the webber trade is the most iffy one out of the bunch i'll give you that but keep in mind that philly had to pay him tens of millions to leave town, thats how bad he was. Plus at the time Peja and him were fighting and we weren't sure what we wanted to do with peja yet.

Christie for Mobley was an awesome trade... Chirstie played maybe two game for the magic and then retired at the end of the year.

Worthless he was not. He had a triple double right before the trade. Anyone arguing that as even a reasonable trade has got blinders on. Look at Phili now...look at us...sure glad we got rid of Webber so we could have all that flexibility. We couldnt have used Brand anyway.

 

[Sac.1989]

we did ship c web off a bit too early for me and the pieces used to fill his void have been questionable. We are none the less heading in the right direction and i really wouldnt rather have anyone else leading the front then GP

 

[FakeInjury]

Everything Petrie has done in the last 3 years will make perfect sense if we sign ben gordon to a max contract.

 

[Heuge]

Everything Petrie has done in the last 3 years will make perfect sense if we sign ben gordon to a max contract.

This would be consistent, though a mid-level will be more along the lines, since that seems to be the general trend of our contracts. Gosh, knowing that was probably a serious statement absolutely made my day.

 

[Kingzrool]

Hold up! It has been a whole day and Brick did not rip into the OP for praising GP. WTF?

I am going with sactownfan on this. Sure, you can knock a couple of those trades, but only because you have a crystal ball. They were all solid at the time. The Webb trade can be argued about for an eternity. The trade turned out a bust, yeah, but it was pretty close. He did have the right idea in moving CWebb, and made a gamble that did not pay. It could have easily turned out to be the most praised move by GP ever, had the cards fallen that way. I will stop because I know Chris is beloved, but I could go on. If you blame Geoff for Cat and Bonzi than you should reexamine the facts. Peja for Ron was brilliant regardless of the outcome.

IN PETRIE I TRUST.

 

[Bricklayer]

Hold up! It has been a whole day and Brick did not rip into the OP for praising GP. WTF?

Given the dubious nature of the thread, people were doing a sufficent job of debunking. But hey, if you want to up this by calling me out, I'll play. In Petrie I Trust = joke. In Ainge I Trust is just as valid, and a year ago that was a joke too. You give any blind squirrel enough shots, things will start to break right. Petrie is not a blind squirrel, but finally managing to hit rock bottom and find some hope after a record tying 6 straight years of decline, two, going on three years in the lottery, and playing to the decimated remains of the once great "best fans in the NBA" is nothing to be religious about.

The Webber trade was asinine. Completely. I called it as such at the time. Let Geoff know as much at the time in a (actually several) nastygram. And have been proven right in spades over the years. You do NOT do that trade. Ever. It was ludicrous and easily the blackest mark on Geoff's shaky 2000s resume. His best defense is "the Maloofs made me do it." And maybe they did. His greatest indictment was his ridiculous Peja manlove that may have distorted all reasonable judgment.

The Mobley trade looked decent enough at the time, but subsequent events rendered it lousy too. Mobley left. We gained nothing. Did not use the cap room to rebuild, but rather to sign more crappy MLE talent to "compete". And in the process tore out the heart and soul players from our franchise and denied them, and us, the opportunity to say goodbye. Helps sour the fanbase and clear out the old barn nicely. That trade only makes sense if you are keeping the guy you traded for or can use him as trrade bait yourself. If you are not, then you wasted an asset.

Losing Gerald was a mistake. I called it. Signing SAR was a mistake. Again, I called it. Firing Adelman was a mistake. Called it. Signing Moore was mistake. Called it. The addiction to signing middling roster and capspace clogging vets to the MLE is a mistake. Same thing McHale did forever in Minnesota. You don't want to emulate McHale. And of course the negatives that people always leave out -- took too long to rebuild. Waited too long to trade Peja, losing most of his value and forcing a gamble (likely by the Maloofs). Waited too long to trade Bibby, losing most of his value and getting next to nothing for him in the end; is years past the trade Brad born on date, but remains trapped by his Princeton shooting center upbringing.

Now though, this thread, despite the OP's dubious blinders-on-enthusiasm, was mostly about the draft picks, and therein lies the hope. We have done everything wrong in acquiring those picks, have found ourselves repeatedly in lousy Cedric Simmons/Mateen Cleaves like drafting position, but still maybe have managed to draft four of our five future starters in the last 5 years. And maybe could have had five of five if Geoff had not blown the Douby pick (agian, for a shooter). I think Rajon Rondo would have looked rather nice in a Kings uniform, but hey, you can't shoot, sorry, you get banished over to those piddly little championship winning teams while we look down our noses at you while playing H.O.R.S.E. In any case, now the shoe has landed on the other foot, and whereas the hope used to be the trades, the hope now lies in the draft. And that has appears to have gone well in recent years (assuming Hawes and Thompson continue to develop), so now for the first time in years there is legitimate reason to hope. And thus I generally left this thread alone. Suddenly popping back up and declaring your alleigance to Petrie after 5 years of gaffes and screwups is ridiculous, but at this point, today, this season going forward? We're in a better spot than we've been since 2004.

 

[Kingzrool]

Now the world is right again.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

was waiting for your post brick

lets hope for the worst and get another high pick this offseason and develop our young talent. if we play our cards right we might get rubio.