SacKings384
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Why not trade Peja??? With Pejas (relatively) small contract, the Kings barely benefit cap wise from him leaving... I'd have a hard time just letting him walk for nothing...
SacKings384 said:Why not trade Peja??? With Pejas (relatively) small contract, the Kings barely benefit cap wise from him leaving... I'd have a hard time just letting him walk for nothing...
SacTownKid said:Well, we have done a lot of letting players walk for nothing, but if Peja just walks away I will be PO'ed!!!
Like I said, just wait till the deadline he will be all over the tube.
Bricklayer said:That one would be a mistake/disaster. You just do NOT let a player of Peja's talent walk away unless you are going into full-fledged rebuilding mode. You only get so much talent, and you have to conserve whenever possible.
I still insist that trading Peja is the way to go from any tactical perpective. If Peja is worth whatever he is at his current $$, he's worth less at max$$ (or anywhere close), and he's almsot surely worth less still if he just walks (depends on if you are ale to sign somebody to replace him). The only way to conserve his value is to trade him for a similar level of talent that you can keep for equal or less $$ into future years.
SacTownKid said:I think Peja is worth more than his current deal. I just don't think he is worth that much to us with the other players we have. We don't need his abilities as desperately as some other teams do, and thats what scares me. He may be worth that much to another team looking for a guy thats going to give 20+ points without being volume shooter.
West_Gunslinger16 said:Ofcourse we need his skill. Remember the Kings-Spurs game, we got no 3-pointer to turn to (only Bibby). The reason their (Spurs) win is only by 3 is because Bibby sparked and I tell you that doesn't happen everytime we need it.
SacTownKid said:You can always find a 3 point shooter. Maybe not on Peja's level but I think a simple spot up 3 point shooter could do the trick. Peja definately sets him self apart from a simple 3 point shooter, but what else do really use him for?
West_Gunslinger16 said:You call him a simple 3 point shooter? I can't think of anyone as consistent as Peja. If there's as consistent as Peja that would be Ray Allen. And I doubt Seattle would ever let him go. Tell me, who can do a 6-8 3PTFG in the SF Pos. today? Mention one "simple" 3PT shooter who can only miss few. Come on, I'd rather have a scorer than a rebounder/blocker that doesn't score at all. Oh, if there's anybody who I want to be in SF Pos. that would be Marion which is impossible.
P.S. Don't mention Eddie Jones!
West_Gunslinger16 said:You call him a simple 3 point shooter? I can't think of anyone as consistent as Peja. If there's as consistent as Peja that would be Ray Allen. And I doubt Seattle would ever let him go. Tell me, who can do a 6-8 3PTFG in the SF Pos. today? Mention one "simple" 3PT shooter who can only miss few. Come on, I'd rather have a scorer than a rebounder/blocker that doesn't score at all. Oh, if there's anybody who I want to be in SF Pos. that would be Marion which is impossible.
P.S. Don't mention Eddie Jones!
West_Gunslinger16 said:You call him a simple 3 point shooter? I can't think of anyone as consistent as Peja. If there's as consistent as Peja that would be Ray Allen. And I doubt Seattle would ever let him go. Tell me, who can do a 6-8 3PTFG in the SF Pos. today? Mention one "simple" 3PT shooter who can only miss few. Come on, I'd rather have a scorer than a rebounder/blocker that doesn't score at all. Oh, if there's anybody who I want to be in SF Pos. that would be Marion which is impossible.
West_Gunslinger16 said:You call him a simple 3 point shooter? I can't think of anyone as consistent as Peja. If there's as consistent as Peja that would be Ray Allen. And I doubt Seattle would ever let him go.
Tell me, who can do a 6-8 3PTFG in the SF Pos. today?
Come on, I'd rather have a scorer than a rebounder/blocker that doesn't score at all.
sloter said:It is really annoying how many times people are going to say that Pedja is not a good defender. Pedja is a very solid defender.
sloter said:It is really annoying how many times people are going to say that Pedja is not a good defender. Pedja is a very solid defender.
Bricklayer said:Peja's defense has to be broken into two parts:
1) Man to man: surprisingly solid, has been for some time now;
2) Help defense: pretty terrible. One of the very worst and for the same reasons that plague him throughout his game. No tougnness/hustle, unwilling to stick his nose in there, rotate hard, absorb contact etc.
Some guy at 82games.com did a statistical study and found Peja the 2nd worst SF defender in the league over the past three years ( link ), and if that's true its not because of his defense on his man IMO, its because he helps nobody else with theirs and the whole defense suffers because of it, he doesn't hit the glass, and doesn't pick up loose balls. Hence other teams score more with him in the game even with him having developed solid one on one defensive skills.
West_Gunslinger16 said:Yeah? But why put all the blame on the SF? Why don't you blame the guy does 0.5 BLK a game and Rebounds less than 8 a game? In fact when I see Miller I don't see any difference with him and Peja. "Horrible" defender and does no hustle rebounds. The only 2 field Miller beats Peja is assists and rebounds but that's understandable the fact the he beats Peja by 2 inches and the reason Kings hired that person (TO BE A CENTER!!!!!). I'm hurt by the way people include Peja w/o or not Miller in trading, its really disheartening. If Miller defends a little like Skinner, I'll be his biggest fan and forget about the way he plays. But I guess we can't really have all the good stuff, right?