Hype thread for Justin Williams

[Ryle]

what do you expect from Williams?

Pretty much what I said in my post.

 

[Ryle]

Hmmm. His FG percentage is 61.4%, which is more than 13 points higher than the 2nd place King... everyone else shoots 38.1%-48.2%. His turnovers per minute of PT are the lowest on the team, and his offensive rebounds per minute are much higher than anyone else on the team. I'm really short on sleep today, so I may be overlooking something, but I have a hard time figuring out how he's an offensive liability. Assists and FT% that are comparable to Scot Pollard or Brendan Haywood? Is that enough to make someone an offensive liability?

Instead of just looking at Stats you might want to watch him on the court.

Don't get me wrong I like him but just keep him away from the ball unless it's chasing down a rebound or dunking it.

 

[BawLa]

Instead of just looking at Stats you might want to watch him on the court.

Don't get me wrong I like him but just keep him away from the ball unless it's chasing down a rebound or dunking it.

I would rather see him start working on his offensive game in the summer league and preseason rather than waiting until the regular season. He has athletic ability, it is just his BB IQ and footwork that need to be improved.

In general I agree with you. He is not going to be a number 3 or 4 option, but if he can occasionally take advantage of a mismatch, then that will raise his overall effectiveness and therefore get him more playing time.

If anything he could learn a lot from Spencer.

 

[NewMonkey]

Just don't touch the basketball on offense unless you are rebounding the ball or dunking it. Otherwise stay out of the way.

Everyone here tends to way overrate this guy as he is a complete liability on the offensive end and will probably be only able to stay on the court 10-15 minutes a game because of it.

Agreed, but the Kings are SO horrendously awful on the boards and with interior defense that Williams may get more time just to make up for the terrible deficiencies of the other guys on the court. I like the guy because he can actually make a difference on the Kings. He does everything the other guys don't. If Williams could ever be as good as a 2001 Scot Pollard, I'd be happy.

 

[Entity]

Hey Ryle KT was a complete liabilty on BOTH ends last year and yet he started. I'll take Justins liabilty over KT's any day. I mean Justin defines the word role player. Whith Bibby 18pts Martin 21pts Artest 19pts and Miller 15pts an 8-10 pts Justin Williams is just what the doctor ordered as long as you get the 10-12 reb. now If for some reason he becomes a 5rpg guy like KT then he is no longer needed. KT could not be used to dish off to after cutting into the lane, Justin can. KT or SAR either one can get a rebound and go back up with a strong finish, Justin can.

Read my new sig.

 

[CruzDude]

Hmmm. His FG percentage is 61.4%, which is more than 13 points higher than the 2nd place King... everyone else shoots 38.1%-48.2%. His turnovers per minute of PT are the lowest on the team, and his offensive rebounds per minute are much higher than anyone else on the team.......

Justin's high FG% is due to fact that 98% of his buckets are either offensive rebound tip ins or dunks from a play sequence. The ugliest hook shot of the decade I referred to earlier was his attempt at a shot from about 6-8 ft away along the baseline. He did make sort of an "alley oop" teardrop shot from about 6-8 ft straight away but that is rare.

He shooting more than 6 ft away is also seen in his still poor FT shooting, struggling to get above 50%. He misses 90% of the first of 2 but nearly always makes the second. So could be a solveable problem.

His domain is 99% within about that same 6 ft radius of the basket. Now an interesting vision is Big JWill owning the domain inside the circle down low and Hawes owning from there out to 3 pt range. Hawes has a decent-good hook but is rushing it. Once he settles down and gets a bit of summer league confidence, we should see Hawes be a 15-20 pt per gamer. And he does have a back-to-the-basket game. Big JWill does not.

 

[Entity]

Justin is the Ben Wallace type player that in todays game you have to have on your team be it starting or coming off the bench either way 15-20 min a game by Justing would go along way in our team rebounding and just all out hustle points.

 

[fnordius]

He shooting more than 6 ft away is also seen in his still poor FT shooting, struggling to get above 50%. He misses 90% of the first of 2 but nearly always makes the second. So could be a solveable problem.

Yeah, I think he's improving a lot in that area. Last year, he started out shooting 20% (3 of 15) through Jan-Feb, but went 30% (3 of 10) during March 1-17. From then until the end of the season, he shot 44.7% (17 of 38). So I'm sure that he's working on it when he's not in the weight room.

I'm aware that he has that high a FG% because he's a dunker and the team garbageman. But that does seem like just what we need. It's not like we're dying for lack of players that want to take jumpers. And a good dunker can match the points-per-shot of a proficient 3-point shooter, which is a good thing. If he can get to the 70% FT mark, he might even be a reasonable guy to pass to when we're down by 1 with a few seconds to play.

 

[vytzka]

Read my new sig.

Your sig is indeed pretty cool

I love Williams because exemplifies everything that the Kings lacked for last couple of years - rebounding, athleticism, shotblocking. But most of all I love his heart and his will to go after every ball, challenge every shot and leave everything on the floor. He also doesn't belong in the loony bin unlike the one other King who gets closest to some of those qualities.

Besides he'll be a terrific bigmen combo with Spencer Hawes. Just you wait.

 

[Bricklayer]

Justin is the Ben Wallace type player that in todays game you have to have on your team be it starting or coming off the bench either way 15-20 min a game by Justing would go along way in our team rebounding and just all out hustle points.

There's no "in today's game" about it. In fact really, the argument has been that you need it LESS in today's game than before...but I think that's hooey. Every good team needs to have guys who do the things Justin does. Been that way since the peach basket was first nailed up. Ntohing;s changed. Thoe guys doing it can be stars (Duncan, Marion etc.) or roleplayers (Dampier/Diop etc.) but SOMEBODY out there has to get down in the trenches and do the dirty work so all the pretty little scorers can run around and thump their chests.


As an aside, while I pretty just rolled my eyes at a "hype" thread, as long as its here, I liked this picture from his summer league bio. Pretty much says it all about how he's approached things (and about the level of competition he's faced, but that's an issue for another thread):

 

[Entity]

I figured you hated "hype" but its just excited to see a guy like this on our team. We haven't seen it in some time. Some ppl say Keon Clark but, I say no Keon seemed a little more lazy and didn't seem to be going all out as Justin does.

 

[fnordius]

Nice pic! I always enjoy the ones which include the look of frustration on an opponent's face.