Grades v. Cavaliers 12/06

[VF21]

Adelman ( C ) -- we started this one out with good energy, but just could not get the execution going. And then the frustration, rushed shots, sloppy plays began to pile up and threatened to swamp us by the end of the half. Luckily the Cavs were actually playing pretty poorly as well, and politely refused to put us away. We had our chances in the second half but just... I don't know. We can never sustain. Never play any real stretches of inspired ball. And finally we just left the game sitting our there so long that LeBron just decided to pick it up and run away with it. Some of what Rick tried worked well -- thought we bothered LeBron early with a variety of defenders and defenses to keep him from getting into a good rhythm. Rick kept the unstable bench supported by a pair of starters (at least) at all times. And he drew up a nice play out of a timeout with 2:30 minutes to go resulting in a Shareef dunk to keep us within striking range. But of course with things going the way they are, what Rick did NOT do is going to draw the extra attention. A few days after threatening to shake it up, we were right back to the same rotation. Right back to playing the starters heavy minutes and saying "win it". Did not even take a look at the Corliss and Skinner duo (I undertand Corliss as there is no possible way he could guard LeBron, but Thomas sucked, and Skinner could have been a possibility if we weren't so 100% determined to solely play him at center). The team played better tonight, they tried in spurts and jerks. But at this point it is disturbing how answerless they appear to be. Effort doesn't appear to be enough. Its like they have to learn how to win all over again. Any one of these games could spell the end of the Adelman era in Sacramento I think. At this point I'm not sure it really matters. This team is going nowhere, and building toward nothing. And Rick himself is almost sure to choose to leave even if he makes it to the summer. So if it happens, it happens. And please Geoff, this time how about a REAL rebuilding plan rather than this half-assed mismatched mess we are watching now?

And that might well end up being Adelman's epitaph.

And, for the first time, I'm hoping they fire him sooner rather than later. To see someone who has done so much for this franchise slowly and inexorably spiral downward towards "redundancy" is heart-breaking. Rick Adelman deserves better...

 

[D-Mass]

Not what he meant -- hew took Peja out to put Corliss in the other night. And that was fine. Good even. But tongiht if he does that it means that Corliss has to guard either LeBron or Larry Hughes...and that isn't happening. So he would have to put Corliss in there at PF against the best rebounding team in the league...and that just isn't happening too. Just no good matchups.

That's what I figured...I'm still just a bit steamed after this loss.

 

[NewMonkey]

Any one of these games could spell the end of the Adelman era in Sacramento I think. At this point I'm not sure it really matters. This team is going nowhere, and building toward nothing. And Rick himself is almost sure to choose to leave even if he makes it to the summer. So if it happens, it happens. And please Geoff, this time how about a REAL rebuilding plan rather than this half-assed mismatched mess we are watching now?

Grades are good as usual, but the rebuilding thing has a lot to do with wanting to stay in Sacramento. If you rip the team apart and say you're going to lose for a few years, you give up any chance to get an arena built in Sacramento. Try to keep a playoff team and there's still a shot at an arena, so I understand why Petrie did what he did. (And this really SHOULD be a playoff team.) I think they'll rebuild the team when they (decide to) move, but not before.

 

[Elektrik]

And that might well end up being Adelman's epitaph.

And, for the first time, I'm hoping they fire him sooner rather than later. To see someone who has done so much for this franchise slowly and inexorably spiral downward towards "redundancy" is heart-breaking. Rick Adelman deserves better...

All good things must come to an end. All players in all sports respond to different motivation. They are not responding to Rick Adelman or his staff. This team has talent. Certainly more than 7 and 11. It wasn't too long ago that we didnt lose this many games at Arco in a whole season. Rick's style is not getting it done anymore. This bunch of guys can't seem to get up to play the game and that is where the coach has to prepare the players. The players play the game but ultimitlely the coach is the first to feel the hammer come down. I think coachie is too old, and Elston Turner can't teach defense. Rick should be let go now. Not because he is a bad guy or a bad coach but because his time has come and gone. I don't believe in the Princeton offense anymore. We need a coach who is going to preach defense....for 48 minutes.

 

[SacTownKid]

All good things must come to an end. All players in all sports respond to different motivation. They are not responding to Rick Adelman or his staff. This team has talent. Certainly more than 7 and 11. It wasn't too long ago that we didnt lose this many games at Arco in a whole season. Rick's style is not getting it done anymore. This bunch of guys can't seem to get up to play the game and that is where the coach has to prepare the players. The players play the game but ultimitlely the coach is the first to feel the hammer come down. I think coachie is too old, and Elston Turner can't teach defense. Rick should be let go now. Not because he is a bad guy or a bad coach but because his time has come and gone. I don't believe in the Princeton offense anymore. We need a coach who is going to preach defense....for 48 minutes.

Maybe Elston would actually play Skinner though! One positive for our possible soon to be coach. I actually kind of like Elston, if Adelman leaves I wouldn't mind seeing the "head coach" talk at the end of the half.

 

[VF21]

He wouldn't. That job always goes to the assistant, which means Elston would not be doing the talking any longer.

 

[kennadog]

And, for the first time, I'm hoping they fire him sooner rather than later. To see someone who has done so much for this franchise slowly and inexorably spiral downward towards "redundancy" is heart-breaking. Rick Adelman deserves better...

You know, VF, I've been thinking the same thing. He looks miserable and I think he is still mad/hurt over last summer and the Jackson fiasco. At this point, I think firing him would be merciful and a relief to him.

Weird thing is, I sort of feel the same way watching Bibby, Brad and Peja out there. Webber, Vlade, Doug, Bobby gone and those three are left here. I think Bibby, Brad and Peja were great WITH those teammates. I'm almost wishing the entire group had been split up all at once. Maybe it will get better, but its like rather than being a "core," it's a shell. Geez, I'd better knock back a good shot and go to bed.

 

[Mad D]

This was Rick's first loss against the Cavs at Arco.

 

[slugking50]

This was Rick's first loss against the Cavs at Arco.

If thats not a firable offense I don't know what is.


< sighs >


Looks like this is going to be a long year. Our core is indeed rotten and needs to be tossed for some Golden Deliscious Apples. We need GP to work his magic on a major scale.

 

[bozzwell]

And that might well end up being Adelman's epitaph.

And, for the first time, I'm hoping they fire him sooner rather than later. To see someone who has done so much for this franchise slowly and inexorably spiral downward towards "redundancy" is heart-breaking. Rick Adelman deserves better...

I don't think Adelman can be fired. When he is released that'w exactly what it will mean - he will be excused from this mess, because it is not of his doing. He will be rewarded, because he does deserve better from this franchise. Better then PJ fiasco, better then pulling the rug from underneath him (player moves), and better then being put into sputtering rebuilding by his buddy.

If RA ends up in HOU next year and immediately proceeds to build a freescoring superpower there, we shouldn't be regretfull or resentfull. RA is still great coach, we just need new start as much as he does.

 

[ESP47]

Bricklayer, ever thought about doing a cumulative grading over the entire season as well? You could give the game grades and average them out so we can see how well these guys are doing over the entire year.

 

[Bricklayer]

Bricklayer, ever thought about doing a cumulative grading over the entire season as well? You could give the game grades and average them out so we can see how well these guys are doing over the entire year.

Several people have suggested that and even tried to tally the overall grades themselves. I think its a bit dubious just because...I dunno, but alot of things can go into these grades that isn't exactly scientific, and guys can get inflated/defelated grades based on whether we won or not, whether they were our best player that night or not etc. that might not add up the most accurate tally. (I think on a couple of games this year I've also left a few people oiff the grades -- been busy).

A couple of years ago though I did do mid and end of season overall grades, just based on overall impressions. Last year I didn't, but somebody else did I seem to recall. Maybe I'll try to put that together again this time around and throw in a tally of the individual grades threads as well.

 

[gman23]

Skinner??? Anyone. Skinner???

Is that anything like a UFO sighting?