Gilbert Arenas

[Jespher]

Given the injury filled year Gilbert Arenas has just suffered, do you think he will still opt out of his contract to hope for a larger extension this summer? I expect him no to terminate his option and resign one more year with the Wizards. If so, how about a straight swap, Gilbert Arenas for Brad Miller.

Trade:

Kings Out:

Brad Miller

Kings In:

Gilbert Arenas

Wizards Out:

Gilbert Arenas

Wizards In:

Brad Miller

Why the Kings do this: At the end of the season, every point guard on the Kings becomes a free agent. We all hope and expect Beno to be signed for the midlevel or so, but he is eligible to sign anywhere and he has played well enough to garner offers for more than we can offer. Gilbert Arenas is a better player than Beno, though not as pure a passer. If we could make this trade, and resign Beno, we would be set at PG for a while.
Gilbert would give us another deep threat, and think how lethal a back court of Gilbert Arenas and Kevin Martin would be. Plus, Gilbert would be the markee type player that the team would need to compete if Ron opts out.

Why the Kings don't do this: Gilbert would only be signed through one season, and would not retain bird rights if traded, so we could lose him for nothing after one year. The Kings could also hope to develop Beno as the primary PG of the future for much less $. Plus everyone knows DON'T TRADE BIG FOR SMALL!!!


Why the Wizards do this: They are always a big man away from competing for the eastern conference title. Brad fits perfectly into Eddie Jordan's system of princeton style motion offense, and his defense and rebounding has seriously improved (Imagine him playing the weak east bigs). If Gilbert doesn't opt out this summer, the Wizards might also not have the money to sign him to a longer extension after that season, so this way they would at least be getting something promising for him. Besides, thereare plenty of PGs in the draft this year.

Why the Wizards don't do this: Gilbert Arenas is an all star player, and with the new rule changes favoring guards, he makes that team lethel. They would miss his scoring and leadership, but they actually have been playing great without him too. I think this is a bigger bargain for them than they realize.

Kings New Roster (Signing Beno)

PG Gilbert Arenas/Beno Udrich/Quincy Douby or Francisco Garcia
SG Kevin Martin/Francisco Garcia or John Salmons/Quincy Douby
SF Ron Artest/John Salmons or Francisco Garcia
PF Mikki Moore/Sheldon Williams
C Spencer Hawes/Shareef Abdur-Rahim or Mikki Moore

Maybe we would then draft Roy Hibbert to play C behind Spencer and Mikki??

 

[BMiller52]

LOL. I wish.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Wait? Are we on the same page, talking about the same Gilbert Arenas who once averaged 30+ ppg just a couple seasons ago?

I don't get your drift. Arenas, even if injury-laden at the present time, arguably has double the amount of value Miller has. That's no slight on Miller, it's just that Arenas' namesake, history, age and future contribution combination gives him much more of an edge in terms of value than Miller. I do get the feeling Washington may be a little more open in letting Arenas go (maybe even this offseason--the LA teams were said to be interested, per hoopshype) in an attempt to net some big fish, but I don't think they'd do a trade with us at all, considering that we don't have quite the players with Arenas' luster.

 

[Dime Dropper]

This a joke? Miller for Arenas? Seriously?

 

[kennadog]

This a joke? Miller for Arenas? Seriously?

So in this case, your signature should read, "Just because you can dream it, doesn't mean you can do it?"

 

[KCKingsCountry]

We would have to give up Kevin Martin to get Arenas IMO.

 

[Jespher]

We would have to give up Kevin Martin to get Arenas IMO.

Even given the injury, contract status, and the way the Wizards have performed without Gilbert? Wow...I disagree (Plus why would they want Kevin when Caron Butler is playing like an all star, and they just drafted Nick Young?)

 

[BMiller52]

Even given the injury, contract status, and the way the Wizards have performed without Gilbert? Wow...I disagree (Plus why would they want Kevin when Caron Butler is playing like an all star, and they just drafted Nick Young?)

That's basically what it takes to get young superstars bro. The injury is not permanent, and they're a better team with Gil. The contract status is pretty irrelevant because he'd have to agree to a S&T here anyway since he's going to be opting out. They'll probably still want to keep him anyway and will probably re-sign him.

 

[SacKings7]

umm, why would the Wizards do this? They trade a borderline superstar for an overpaid, jumpshooting center? I just don't see any logic to this, even if you are thinking "they get value for GA instead of losing him for nothing" because I'm pretty sure a player like Arenas can get you much, much more than this thru a trade

 

[Big Cuz 15]

ohhh yeah, wizards trade their best player for a declining center.

 

[Gary]

If they are in a situation like Memphis is in re: to Gasol I can see them doing it for Martin and a couple draft picks, but not Miller.

Now San Antonio could use Miller. Duncan next to Miller would work... Not sure why San Antonio keeps putting crap next to Duncan. But I don't want anything from them.

 

[SacKings7]

If they are in a situation like Memphis is in re: to Gasol I can see them doing it for Martin and a couple draft picks, but not Miller.

Now San Antonio could use Miller. Duncan next to Miller would work... Not sure why San Antonio keeps putting crap next to Duncan. But I don't want anything from them.

Yeah, SA is a perfect fit for Miller, but they don't have much to offer. Wouldn't mind giving Splitter a shot in the NBA though, if he ever decides to play

 

[ForlornKing]

HAHAHAHAHAH...



WOW.

 

[upinsmoke]

I would trade Miller for a few dancers.

 

[Jespher]

I would trade Miller for a few dancers.

Would they play center, or power forward?

 

[KCKingsCountry]

Just playing with numbers a KT/John Salmons deal works perfect for Arenas but Washington would have to be on crack to do that. Martin has the PPP contract which makes him a pain in the you know what to trade but I would assume him and KT or SAR could get it done.

 

[Spike]

Unfortunately, it WOULD take Martin to get Arenas. I must politely decline.

 

[gunks]

Arenas.....Just jacks shots. Dude shot under 42% last season while averaging 21 attempts per contest. Also turns it over a lot without that many assists.

Overrated to the max.

 

[Gary]

Arenas.....Just jacks shots. Dude shot under 42% last season while averaging 21 attempts per contest. Also turns it over a lot without that many assists.

Overrated to the max.

Always thought both Arenas, and Larry Hughes were overrated a bit. Seems when they go to Golden State they always just jack them up, then get paid after leaving.

 

[bajaden]

Always thought both Arenas, and Larry Hughes were overrated a bit. Seems when they go to Golden State they always just jack them up, then get paid after leaving.

Couldn't agree more. I have never liked Hughes. Arenas has talent and is a good player when he wants to be. Or when he remembers that he actually has teammates.

 

[Bricklayer]

Arenas is going to opt out right? Whihc means that he would want max money in an S&T. Could almost work for us in trying to put togetehr enough talent to pull it off.

Do have to say that I think this would about get you in that $$ range, and even be not entirely out of line for a package that might land him given their results this year without him (remember that Washington actually is one of the other teams which use Princeton principles and would know what to do with a Brad Miller):

Brad $12mil
John $5mil
#12 pick

Which...well this would be an intriguing load of firepower to load up at the 1/2/3:

SF: Artest
OG: Martin
PG: Arenas
Bench: Beno, Cisco

That is a LOT of firepower. Unfortunately of course also attached to two of the more selfish offensive performers in the league, you have to give up your pick, and who knows if Beno would come back under those circumstances (unless we saavily resigned him first ).

 

[Entity]

And yet still have Mikki Moore at the PF spot and Spencer? starting center. Eh I'll take Beno and use what few assets we do have to trade in another scenerio. Although in hindisight this would force Ron to be more of a post player than a pereimeter shooter which could be good. Like you said though you have 3 guys needing 15-20 shots per game to really be involved.

 

[BMiller52]

Arenas is going to opt out right? Whihc means that he would want max money in an S&T. Could almost work for us in trying to put togetehr enough talent to pull it off.

Do have to say that I think this would about get you in that $$ range, and even be not entirely out of line for a package that might land him given their results this year without him (remember that Washington actually is one of the other teams which use Princeton principles and would know what to do with a Brad Miller):

Brad $12mil
John $5mil
#12 pick

Which...well this would be an intriguing load of firepower to load up at the 1/2/3:

SF: Artest
OG: Martin
PG: Arenas
Bench: Beno, Cisco

That is a LOT of firepower. Unfortunately of course also attached to two of the more selfish offensive performers in the league, you have to give up your pick, and who knows if Beno would come back under those circumstances (unless we saavily resigned him first ).

That team would be pretty bad *** and would be worth it IMO. I'm not sure if Washington would go for it but it's a decent idea and the last time we got a superstar it was someone we got from the Wiz(Chris). You can still find a PF through trade or FA, not a star but maybe a starter calibre player or maybe Shelden develops into that player. But a core of GA/Kev/Ron would be really good.