He's a must have to me. The guy is bright BB mind and is ultra competitive.Inexplicably, he just got fired today. You wonder if Malone wasn't hired if Karl might have been at the top of the coaching list. That said, he should be given a call as a GM candidate. He's too bright of a basketball mind not to consider in your organization's braintrust.
Inexplicably, he just got fired today. You wonder if Malone wasn't hired if Karl might have been at the top of the coaching list. That said, he should be given a call as a GM candidate. He's too bright of a basketball mind not to consider in your organization's braintrust.
Not entirely inexplicable. There have been Denver fans calling for his head because he seems incapable, lately, of getting his teams beyond the 1st round of the playoffs. I have a feeling, in few years, they may end up feeling similarly to how we did about letting Adelman go, where in retrospect it seems like a true bonehead decision. We'll see how this all works out for them...
Inexplicably, he just got fired today. You wonder if Malone wasn't hired if Karl might have been at the top of the coaching list. That said, he should be given a call as a GM candidate. He's too bright of a basketball mind not to consider in your organization's braintrust.
Exactly. He's Adledman 0.2. Please, Please Ranadive, Go get him as a highly paid top assistant, manager, mentor or whatever he wans to be called other than head coach(since we just hired one). He is very good.Not entirely inexplicable. There have been Denver fans calling for his head because he seems incapable, lately, of getting his teams beyond the 1st round of the playoffs. I have a feeling, in few years, they may end up feeling similarly to how we did about letting Adelman go, where in retrospect it seems like a true bonehead decision. We'll see how this all works out for them...
Doesn't he still want to coach? With the Memphis and the Clippers gigs sitting out there, I doubt he goes anywhere else.
You are probably rightGeorge Karl will end up in Memphis, L.A. or Brooklyn as a head coach. He's not taking a job as an assistant or in somebody's front office.
Hypothetically speaking, I would actually be a little hesitant as to hire an offensive minded coach. As much as the fact that Mike Malone isn't a proven guy, it's refreshing to have a defensive minded coach cause we all know, "Defense win championships".
This is kind of the funny thing with Karl being fired. On the one hand NO!! You don't fire a guy with that many wins/such a track record. On the other hand he's really turned into a smallball run n gun coach and is suffering from Don Nelson disease because of it. he'll get you to the playoff with everybody running around throwing up threes and being undisciplined, but his teams flame out. And so as big of a NO!! as it looks, as with Nellie there may be an idea that Devner, after basically playing the same style of ball for 3 decades without ever breaking through, might finally be rethinking the run n gun take advantage of the altitude stuff.
And for the same reason, while I have said and will continue to say that hiring Malone was a risk with so many big veteran WINNING coaches out there, I like his proposed style better than Karls. I like JVG's style better than Karl's. I am not confident that Karl would do more for us than a glorified Smart. A really really glorified Smart mind you, but no culture break. Still offense first run and chuck...and I'm over that. And you get the feeling a little bit after the Memphis/Indy showing in the playoffs that there may be some movement away from that in the NBA overall.
In discussing the principles for a successful Kings team, Malone said he wanted to run the ball. He didn't mention disciplined sets, screens, timing, or slowing the ball for a half court game. That doesn't mean he's not going to do those things, but it is telling that he emphasized running the ball. So why do you think his style will be any different than Smart's, who also preached defense with the intent of running the ball? The principles are identical. The execution of those principles will determine whether he is successful or not.
To group Smart with Karl, who is a HOFer coach, is over the top.
Because coach Malone actually plans to make Kings a DEFENSE first team, THAT was his idea of the principles for a successful Kings team. That's what he emphasized.
In discussing the principles for a successful Kings team, Malone said he wanted to run the ball. He didn't mention disciplined sets, screens, timing, or slowing the ball for a half court game. That doesn't mean he's not going to do those things, but it is telling that he emphasized running the ball. So why do you think his style will be any different than Smart's, who also preached defense with the intent of running the ball? The principles are identical. The execution of those principles will determine whether he is successful or not.
To group Smart with Karl, who is a HOFer coach, is over the top.
But one of the reasons George Karl was fired was because the ownership and Karl had different views of the team. Karl wanted W's immediately, while the ownership wanted to see the young guys (such as Javale McGee) to get some playing time and to progress.
I don't know about you guys, but I don't want a coach whose interest is to get quick wins and not develop our talent, that's the exact opposite of what we do need! I respect Karl but I don't feel like he would be a fit here with the Kings.
You run with the ball only after you defend. If the choice is don't run or don't defend, you don't run. Any defensive minded coach will tell you that.
And we'll see with Malone as an offensive coach. He doesn't have to be a success. That remains the question with him. But he talks a good game. Defense first. Defensive rebounding first. Play inside out on offense. The "we want to run" is standard coach speak for every coach from the run n gunners down to the slowest walk it up guys. The difference is just how they prioritize that/when they think its appropriate. All coaches advocate running on clear breakouts. Then there is a progression of guys who also advocate running when you have numbers, to those who advocate running every time you grab a d-board numbers or not, to those who advocate running even if you are taking it out under your hoop. We'll see where Malone falls on that.
However I know where Karl falls on that. He emphasizes defense far more then Nellie has in decades, but he has run high pace undisciplined offenses for a long long time, and like Nellie gotten nowehere fast with that in the playoffs forever. There is absolutely no doubt you get better hiring a George Karl, hence the risk of hiring a Malone. But in the long run perpetuating a more for show than for success style of play isn't doing the franchise any good. New era, new philosophy, time to get serious.
In discussing the principles for a successful Kings team, Malone said he wanted to run the ball. He didn't mention disciplined sets, screens, timing, or slowing the ball for a half court game. That doesn't mean he's not going to do those things, but it is telling that he emphasized running the ball. So why do you think his style will be any different than Smart's, who also preached defense with the intent of running the ball? The principles are identical. The execution of those principles will determine whether he is successful or not.
To group Smart with Karl, who is a HOFer coach, is over the top.
You run with the ball only after you defend. If the choice is don't run or don't defend, you don't run. Any defensive minded coach will tell you that.
And we'll see with Malone as an offensive coach. He doesn't have to be a success. That remains the question with him. But he talks a good game. Defense first. Defensive rebounding first. Play inside out on offense. The "we want to run" is standard coach speak for every coach from the run n gunners down to the slowest walk it up guys. The difference is just how they prioritize that/when they think its appropriate. All coaches advocate running on clear breakouts. Then there is a progression of guys who also advocate running when you have numbers, to those who advocate running every time you grab a d-board numbers or not, to those who advocate running even if you are taking it out under your hoop. We'll see where Malone falls on that.
However I know where Karl falls on that. He emphasizes defense far more then Nellie has in decades, but he has run high pace undisciplined offenses for a long long time, and like Nellie gotten nowehere fast with that in the playoffs forever. There is absolutely no doubt you get better hiring a George Karl, hence the risk of hiring a Malone. But in the long run perpetuating a more for show than for success style of play isn't doing the franchise any good. New era, new philosophy, time to get serious.
This is kind of the funny thing with Karl being fired. On the one hand NO!! You don't fire a guy with that many wins/such a track record. On the other hand he's really turned into a smallball run n gun coach and is suffering from Don Nelson disease because of it. he'll get you to the playoff with everybody running around throwing up threes and being undisciplined, but his teams flame out. And so as big of a NO!! as it looks, as with Nellie there may be an idea that Devner, after basically playing the same style of ball for 3 decades without ever breaking through, might finally be rethinking the run n gun take advantage of the altitude stuff.
And for the same reason, while I have said and will continue to say that hiring Malone was a risk with so many big veteran WINNING coaches out there, I like his proposed style better than Karls. I like JVG's style better than Karl's. I am not confident that Karl would do more for us than a glorified Smart. A really really glorified Smart mind you, but no culture break. Still offense first run and chuck...and I'm over that. And you get the feeling a little bit after the Memphis/Indy showing in the playoffs that there may be some movement away from that in the NBA overall.
Malone has proven to be able to turn teams around on the defensive end, period. The complexionNo dugh.... And that's what Smart preached and what Malone has preached. So you don't necessarily believe Malone when he says he wants to run. So you are a disbeliever already? I take the guy at his word. The point is: both Smart and Malone have preached the defend, then run philosophy. Whether you want to believe it or not is entirely up to you.
No dugh.... And that's what Smart preached and what Malone has preached. So you don't necessarily believe Malone when he says he wants to run. So you are a disbeliever already? I take the guy at his word. The point is: both Smart and Malone have preached the defend, then run philosophy. Whether you want to believe it or not is entirely up to you.
As Warhawk brought up, if you want to ignore the defensive improvement in Cle, NO and GS, that's entirely up to you. But if you step back and look at this logically, there's much more evidence of Malone's concentration on and success defensively than Smart's.No dugh.... And that's what Smart preached and what Malone has preached. So you don't necessarily believe Malone when he says he wants to run. So you are a disbeliever already? I take the guy at his word. The point is: both Smart and Malone have preached the defend, then run philosophy. Whether you want to believe it or not is entirely up to you.
the difference between an assistant-turned-head-coach like keith smart and one like mike malone will be in the following category: testicular fortitude. smart and his staff actually did manage to coax considerable defensive improvement from the kings in the first ten games of this last season. but the offense sputtered in that time, and smart panicked, perhaps fearing for his job after seeing mike brown canned by the lakers so early...smart abandoned the notion of developing a defense, of developing a halfcourt offense, and lazily resorted to run and gun tactics to increase scoring, while sacrificing anything that resembles discipline on the court--
This is kind of the funny thing with Karl being fired. On the one hand NO!! You don't fire a guy with that many wins/such a track record. On the other hand he's really turned into a smallball run n gun coach and is suffering from Don Nelson disease because of it. he'll get you to the playoff with everybody running around throwing up threes and being undisciplined, but his teams flame out. And so as big of a NO!! as it looks, as with Nellie there may be an idea that Devner, after basically playing the same style of ball for 3 decades without ever breaking through, might finally be rethinking the run n gun take advantage of the altitude stuff.
And for the same reason, while I have said and will continue to say that hiring Malone was a risk with so many big veteran WINNING coaches out there, I like his proposed style better than Karls. I like JVG's style better than Karl's. I am not confident that Karl would do more for us than a glorified Smart. A really really glorified Smart mind you, but no culture break. Still offense first run and chuck...and I'm over that. And you get the feeling a little bit after the Memphis/Indy showing in the playoffs that there may be some movement away from that in the NBA overall.