[Game] Game 79: Kings @ Thunder, 4/10/15 5pdt, 8edt

Well,

Our SG rotation is garbage. One of Ben or Nik HAS to go this offseason. I dont care which. They are both interesting prospects, for different reasons, but we can't have those goofballs be our entire SG rotation and expect to win games.

Hollins over Sim? Why? Then I look at the +/- and see that he is the only one on the team with a positive in that department. My takeaway? +/- is garbage and should be thrown out as a stat!

As far as positives: Ray is quietly putting together a string of decent games. I think our PG rotation will be pretty decent once we get DC back.

Casspi is the truth.

JT can still rebound when Cuz isnt in there gobbling all them boards up.
Ben and Nik are 4-5 on open threes in this game, and Ben had a lot of good defensive possessions. You settle Mclemore into a limited role, which he should have with Boogie, Rudy and DC in the starting lineup, and he will look as good as any 3&D wing outside of top dozen. If Kings can get one of those elite role players, then they definitely should do it. But getting rid of Mclemore shouldn't be a goal just for the sake of it. And Nik is a struggling rookie, so he probably won't bring back much better player, than can be simply signed for MLE-level money.
 
Bhullar has skills. I suspect if he's able to get into NBA form, he's gonna surprise a lot of people.

He's too big and too slow, and I'm not just talking about fat. Humans aren't supposed to be that big and you can tell his body just reacts too slowly to what his brain is telling him to do.

It's ironic but he's just TOO big to ever be a useful player in the NBA.
 
He's too big and too slow, and I'm not just talking about fat. Humans aren't supposed to be that big and you can tell his body just reacts too slowly to what his brain is telling him to do.

It's ironic but he's just TOO big to ever be a useful player in the NBA.

Gheorghe Muresan would beg to differ.
 
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I forget - what's the record for low # of posts in a game thread.... EVER... on KF's?

There was one a couple of years ago that had something like 19, I think...and some of those were discussing how few posts there were.
 
Ben and Nik are 4-5 on open threes in this game, and Ben had a lot of good defensive possessions. You settle Mclemore into a limited role, which he should have with Boogie, Rudy and DC in the starting lineup, and he will look as good as any 3&D wing outside of top dozen. If Kings can get one of those elite role players, then they definitely should do it. But getting rid of Mclemore shouldn't be a goal just for the sake of it. And Nik is a struggling rookie, so he probably won't bring back much better player, than can be simply signed for MLE-level money.
I am of the opinion that Ben needs to slash more. He has the athleticism to do so, and if he gets good at it, opposing teams will give him the open three. You know, be like Casspi for a while.
 
yea..there was a game on today? first time in a long time that I've been absolutely unaware of anything kings related..

Another question... why did Nik only play 16 mins tonight?

annnd another question.. Why did Ray take only 11 shots if he made 8 of them? Ray needs more looks if he's making his shots. D-Will does NOT need 15 shots..
 
I am of the opinion that Ben needs to slash more. He has the athleticism to do so, and if he gets good at it, opposing teams will give him the open three. You know, be like Casspi for a while.

The great difficulty is that I could pick him clean on the drive, let alone NBAers.

In any case, Karl clearly told him to try that when he took over. The results were sporadically impressive, mostly fugly.

In most ways I don't care except Ben can NOT be relied upon. Rather than start the next season actually relying upon him as our staring SG I would give him away for a bag of nachos. He could singlehandedly sink our playoff ship if he continues to wander through his career looking for people to pat him on the back and tell him go get 'em tiger. We need at least one, and I would prefer TWO steady wing options that you actually could depend on most nights. And then if Ben were retained as well, he could earn his minutes for once. If he blossomed, great. If he didn't...well, we might regret not having traded him while he had value, but the team goes on and the playoff hunt goes on.

All the ruinous stupidity of the late Maloof and early Vivek years has left us in a desperate position. We NEED to win now. Right now. Any potential weakness needs to be shored up, no matter who gets sacrificed. Cuz and Rudy and Karl will form the core. I hope Collison is deemed sufficient sight unseen by Karl. After that, no holes allowed. No weakness, no question marks. You get as solid, experienced, vetted out as you need to get to make a serious run at things in the West. Karl's too old to wait. Cuz is entering his prime. Gay only has a few years left before decline will set in. Kindergarten is out.
 
I am of the opinion that Ben needs to slash more. He has the athleticism to do so, and if he gets good at it, opposing teams will give him the open three. You know, be like Casspi for a while.
I think Ben gets a lot of open 3's already. I'm not comfortable at all when Ben puts the ball on the floor.. it's the same freight I have when Cuz brings tha ball up the floor.
Ben just has to continue to improve on his handling. once he does that, I think he'll be a decent slasher. He has the athleticism, but he doesn't use it much on anything other than Dunks.
 
The great difficulty is that I could pick him clean on the drive, let alone NBAers.

In any case, Karl clearly told him to try that when he took over. The results were sporadically impressive, mostly fugly.

In most ways I don't care except Ben can NOT be relied upon. Rather than start the next season actually relying upon him as our staring SG I would give him away for a bag of nachos. He could singlehandedly sink our playoff ship if he continues to wander through his career looking for people to pat him on the back and tell him go get 'em tiger. We need at least one, and I would prefer TWO steady wing options that you actually could depend on most nights. And then if Ben were retained as well, he could earn his minutes for once. If he blossomed, great. If he didn't...well, we might regret not having traded him while he had value, but the team goes on and the playoff hunt goes on.

All the ruinous stupidity of the late Maloof and early Vivek years has left us in a desperate position. We NEED to win now. Right now. Any potential weakness needs to be shored up, no matter who gets sacrificed. Cuz and Rudy and Karl will form the core. I hope Collison is deemed sufficient sight unseen by Karl. After that, no holes allowed. No weakness, no question marks. You get as solid, experienced, vetted out as you need to get to make a serious run at things in the West. Karl's too old to wait. Cuz is entering his prime. Gay only has a few years left before decline will set in. Kindergarten is out.
Ben doesn't deserve his minutes...at all. He's just our starting SG playing 25+mpg because we have no one better.. that's the most clean cut way I could put it without being harsh... although, it did sound a little harsh...The main things that kill it with Ben is his inconsistency. If his shots aren't falling, he's not contributing for the team AT ALL.

Ben is a player I'd trade if it nets us a +. He's a very very young rising player, but I don't know if we have the patience to go through another hell season with Cuz. I think at the very least, we need a vet SG.
 
I do like the way Derrick for the first time maybe in his NBA career came back after a 1-8 after to actually have us in it in the 3rd quarter I don't think I've ever seen him after a terrible start somewhat redeem himself (even if the majority of his impact was off spoon feeds) in non garbage time. Casspi was the opposite he was amazing to start off with than completely faded and I noticed lately his pick n roll game is absolutely horrible he should not be running pick n rolls he's much better just as a slasher without the screen and he's been terrific with the 3 ball as well.

Ray scored but once again he's not a PG, the offense/team looked there best when Dre was at the 1 and Ray was at the 2. I like the chemistry between JT and Miller those two run the pick n roll well together and they got that play down where Dre bulls his way into the paint clear's the opposition bigman and PG and JT swoops in from the side for a easy lay in/dunk they have been running that very successfully.

I like JT as a back up C rather than starting PF.
 
Muresan's body started breaking down by age 25. He only played 31 games after that.

Maybe not the best example.
 
On the bright side a tanktacular loss to Denver tomorrow secures the sixth slot in the lottery freeing up the Kings to thump the Lakers twice to end this miserable season.
If management decrees that Players X, Y and Z are not going to be available for whatever horse**** reason, then that's whatever. But, anybody who suits up, who doesn't go balls out to win Karl his first game back in Denver, needs to be dragged into the street and shot, on the eleven o'clock news.
 
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