Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
You're going to have to get used to Boogie being as featured as ever offensively. Because we are giving him the true superstar treatment now. This is early 2000s Duncan. Surround him with pure roleplaying shooter/defender vets, control pace, and run absolutely everything through the big guy. For a defensive coach like Joerger it can work too if he is able to move us to be the first good defensive Kings team in a decade.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Yeah, that would be a huge cherry here. specially if we plan on moving Rudy, we need the extra talent.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Rookie scale for a #27 pick I believe. That was the whole reason nobody thought he would come. But Maybe Vlade promised him that he wouldn't pick up the rookie options so Bogdan could hit FA in only 2 years.
Suns must be pissed.
They dealt Bogdanovic in large part because he refused to come over next season. Then his smooth talking countryman trades for him and talks him into coming over?
They dealt Bogdanovic in large part because he refused to come over next season. Then his smooth talking countryman trades for him and talks him into coming over?
SLAB
Hall of Famer
That's kind of what I assumed. Vlade tells him something along the lines of "You perform like I expect, I treat you real good."
Or Vlade told him that would be the salary whether he came over this season or next. If he really wants to play in the NBA he doesn't have much leverage.
roasthawg
Starter
I sure hope so but I just don't see this happening. The cap goes up again next year... He could wait and sign a deal worth $40mil. Even if vlade promised him it'll only be two years on a rookie contract he'd still miss out on next year's cap increase.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
When we got him in the trade with the Suns the first thing I said was don't underestimate the fellow countrymen bond. From that region, culture reigns supreme.
steelevt
All-Star
Then what's the point of signing afflalo and temple. We have our sg, why sign 2 more? Especially at 12.5 and 8 million.
Blob
Starter
I think I am used to Boogie's 30% usage or whatever it is. He got the true superstar treatment last year, and FAILED, with injury, conditioning-issues, forced play and constant bickering with refs and coach. So we will see if the change in personnel and personalities around him makes difference. I think it can, but let's not pretend he wasn't catered to last year. Rondo could not have been MORE accommodating to make the most of his skills, looking for him on every possession. And if we are going to be a good defensive team it needs to be anchored by Boogie, instead of taking possessions off and disrespecting his opponent.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
I don't know, I see a little bit of Stauskas with a sprinkle of George Gervin.
Temple can play a little PG and certainly defend 1-3. If anything bringing Bogdanovic over means Malachi is D-League fodder and Ben is either on the missing persons list or gone.
White_Chocolate
Starter
I would like a Koufas + McLemore for Rubio + Pick type deal or McLemore for Rubio straight up. Koufas is on a nice deal but we do have a crowded front court. I believe the Wolves would most likely do McLemore for Rubio straight up.
The Nets signed Tyler Johnson to a 4 year $50 million dollar deal. It seems less and less likely that we'll be able to keep Seth Curry as the summer of insanity continues. I bet Pat Riley is pulling out his hair right now.
White_Chocolate
Starter
Why not? They just drafted Dunn ( who could start now ) and still have Tyus Jones and Lavine in the back court. I would be happy to trade both Koufas and McLemore if that is what it would take, but I am fairly certain they would like to move on from Rubio.
Fear the Putin
Starter
The Phoenix Suns have a problem. A good one, but still a problem. With Bled and Knight going down during different parts of the season, Devon Booker emerged as one of if not their main centerpieces. Knight has made it known that he will not come off the bench and I really don't see them benching Bled or Booker as 6th men either.
They're not trading Booker, so acquiring either Bled or Knight would suddenly thrust us in the backcourt. Both have very solid defense and I would personally go with Knight due to his uncanny ability to get off (and make) odd angled 3s, while still being a controlling PG. Plus, he's got a slightly cheaper contract that runs a year longer through 2020. I wouldn't hesitate to give them McLemore and Gay for one of those two PGs.
They're not trading Booker, so acquiring either Bled or Knight would suddenly thrust us in the backcourt. Both have very solid defense and I would personally go with Knight due to his uncanny ability to get off (and make) odd angled 3s, while still being a controlling PG. Plus, he's got a slightly cheaper contract that runs a year longer through 2020. I wouldn't hesitate to give them McLemore and Gay for one of those two PGs.
MelTurpin
Prospect
Rubio is a prettty ok starting PG. Young as well, and has a good contract. Tyus Jones isnt good and Lavine isnt a pg. Thibs loves a pg like Rubio. McLemore is probably only worth a 2nd or late 1st on his own. You're not getting back a good starter atm.
White_Chocolate
Starter
I agree that he is a solid young pg but I don't see the Wolves wanting to keep him. It may take more the McLemore but I wouldn't be surprised to see Rubio moved this offseason and would like the Kings to at least take a swing at it.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Boogie hasn't remotely failed. We've failed him.
But there is a significant chance Joerger and Vlade are trying to turn that here. This last season was wrecked by an incredible stack of injuries, but Joerger's previous 2 seasons the Grizz finished 7th and 3rd in the league in defense and combined with their slow pace allowed only 95.1 and 94.6 opponent points. We meanwhile allowed 109.1pts last year, and 105.0 the year before. I doubt we become the Grizz defense in one offseason, although if we continue to make moves to purge offensive minded personnel, who knows. But if Joerger can get the team anywhere south of the 100pt barrier defensively, that dramatically upgrades the impact of a superstar scorer, and its the way we should have been playing it for years.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well actually, its well known that Thibs has been shopping Rubio hard here. So while we may not get him -- and who knows what the market is -- its pretty established that Thibs is trying to move on from him. Surprising that he would want to go with the all kids backcourt, but maybe he wants full molding control.
SacKings384
Starter
Looks like we're letting Seth go. I don't understand at all. Unless this is to clear space for another signing. I hope it's not Waiters.
Kingfanpaul
Starter
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
Sources on @TheVertical: Sacramento plans to rescind the qualifying offer on Seth Curry, allowing guard to become unrestricted free agent.
Sources on @TheVertical: Sacramento plans to rescind the qualifying offer on Seth Curry, allowing guard to become unrestricted free agent.
theclash4u5
Starter
Stupid ****ing move. Can't wait for him to put up 10-13 ppg next season with another team
I don't understand this.
The Kings have ONE PG signed and he's likely to miss games with a suspension. Temple can swing to the PG, but that still only leaves two guys to play that spot. Curry should've been a priority.
I wonder if this means the Kings are convinced Bogdanovic is coming over and are going to swing he and Temple to the PG spot in a Princeton-style offense?
Just reaching here because I'm at a loss as to why they wouldn't want Seth back.
The Kings have ONE PG signed and he's likely to miss games with a suspension. Temple can swing to the PG, but that still only leaves two guys to play that spot. Curry should've been a priority.
I wonder if this means the Kings are convinced Bogdanovic is coming over and are going to swing he and Temple to the PG spot in a Princeton-style offense?
Just reaching here because I'm at a loss as to why they wouldn't want Seth back.
Kingfanpaul
Starter
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
The number of Sacramento guards made a return unappealing, and team will allow Curry an easier route as an UFA to finding new team.
The number of Sacramento guards made a return unappealing, and team will allow Curry an easier route as an UFA to finding new team.
