bdouble013
Bench
Solid pick, but I want to play your team just to see Shaq + Barkley talk with GP all game.
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Solid pick, but I want to play your team just to see Shaq + Barkley talk with GP all game.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Don't forget my other guy's legendary mouth:
On November 9, 1984, Bird was ejected along with Julius Erving in the third quarter after an on court scuffle. At the point of both ejections, Bird had outscored Erving 42 to 6. During the game, Bird had continuously informed Erving of their tallies with every chance he got to score. Eventually a shoving match ensued, then swings taken by both players, and finally a bench-clearing brawl.
SacKings7
Starter
You people should be focusing on the retired players, not the ones still in the league 
. I was hoping to get Paul in Round 3 maybe. Well, a number of great PGs have gone in this round, so I may as well make it another 1.
I pick:
Jason Kidd
Without a doubt the greatest PG of his generation. And if he could shoot good his whole career like he does with the Mavericks now, I think he'd be #2 or #3 on the alltime list. He's a guy that just makes everyone on the team better. And he's been in the playoffs every year since 1996-97, even though he was traded twice.
Honors
103 regular season triple doubles (3rd all-time)
11 playoff triple doubles (2nd all-time)
3rd on the all-time assists list (recently passed Magic)
9 time NBA Allstar
5 NBA 1st team selections (6 total)
4 NBA 1st All-Defensive team selections (9 total)
Career averages of 13.8 ppg, 9.2 apg, 6.7 rpg and 2.0 spg
Only player to have 15000 points, 10000 assists and 7000 rebounds in his career.
. I was hoping to get Paul in Round 3 maybe. Well, a number of great PGs have gone in this round, so I may as well make it another 1.I pick:
Jason Kidd
Without a doubt the greatest PG of his generation. And if he could shoot good his whole career like he does with the Mavericks now, I think he'd be #2 or #3 on the alltime list. He's a guy that just makes everyone on the team better. And he's been in the playoffs every year since 1996-97, even though he was traded twice.
Honors
103 regular season triple doubles (3rd all-time)
11 playoff triple doubles (2nd all-time)
3rd on the all-time assists list (recently passed Magic)
9 time NBA Allstar
5 NBA 1st team selections (6 total)
4 NBA 1st All-Defensive team selections (9 total)
Career averages of 13.8 ppg, 9.2 apg, 6.7 rpg and 2.0 spg
Only player to have 15000 points, 10000 assists and 7000 rebounds in his career.
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Jespher
Starter
That means I'm up
. I think I'll stick with the durable athletic freaks. He can go off for 20+ points, 20+ rebounds, and 6+ blocks (in the modern era
), and was just crowned defensive player of the year. With my second choice, I pick
Dwight Howard (AKA Superman!) F/C 6'11" 265 LBS.
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What a beast! He's my go to guy down low. He can play power forward or center, and is such a great character. His leadership, and fun loving nature will carry over to his teammates, creating championship chemistry and camaraderie. He gets to the line a lot (around 11 attempts/game) getting the opponents in serious foul trouble! He'll protect the basket on the defensive end, and fill the lane on the break. With LeBron on one side, and Dwight on the other, my team will score lots of fast break points!
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Howard
. I think I'll stick with the durable athletic freaks. He can go off for 20+ points, 20+ rebounds, and 6+ blocks (in the modern era), and was just crowned defensive player of the year. With my second choice, I pickDwight Howard (AKA Superman!) F/C 6'11" 265 LBS.
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What a beast! He's my go to guy down low. He can play power forward or center, and is such a great character. His leadership, and fun loving nature will carry over to his teammates, creating championship chemistry and camaraderie. He gets to the line a lot (around 11 attempts/game
) getting the opponents in serious foul trouble! He'll protect the basket on the defensive end, and fill the lane on the break. With LeBron on one side, and Dwight on the other, my team will score lots of fast break points!More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Howard
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Jespher
Starter
I sent a PM to Dime Dropper as well Jespher, so you just send 1 to kingsnation. This is all still a little confusing to me
PMs sent
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GoGoGadget
All-Star
Gary Payton may be my favorite pick of the draft, so far.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
My pick:
Already got the greatest PG ever, now I'm happy to pair him with one of the best shooters/players ever.
My pick:
Elgin Baylor
This guy was just ridiculous. He's a SG/SF, and over his 14 year career he averages 27.4 PPG and 13.5 RPG. Yes, 13.5 RPG. That's to go along with a cool 4.3 APG (in an era where it was harder to get credited with assists than it is now).
In 60/61, he averaged a crazy 34.8ppg, 19.8 rpg and 5.1apg. He followed that up the next season by putting up 28.3ppg, 18.6rpg and 4.6apg.
Here are some of his achievements:
NBA Rookie of the Year (1959)
All-NBA First Team 10 times (1959-65, 67-69)
Eleven-time NBA All-Star (1959-65, 1967-70)
NBA All-Star Game Co-MVP (1959)
Holds NBA Finals single-game record for most points (61) on April 24, 1962 against the Boston Celtics
Scored 71 points (8th highest in history) against the New York Knicks (Nov. 15, 1960)
No. 4 all-time with 87 regular season 40-point games.
Retired as NBA's third all-time leading scorer
Retired as fifth leading scorer in All-Star Game history (19.8 points per game)
Ranked sixth in NBA Finals all-time scoring (26.4 in 44 games)
Ranked seventh in NBA playoffs all-time scoring (27.0 in 134 games)
Became the first NBA player to finish in the top five in four different statistical categories -- scoring, rebounding, assists, and free-throw percentage.
He led the Lakers to the NBA Finals eight times.
As if you need to be sold any further, here are some quotes:
Jerry West - "He was one of the most spectacular shooters the game has ever known, I hear people talking about forwards today and I haven't seen many that can compare with him."
Tommy Hawkins (team-mate and announcer) : "pound for pound, no one was ever as great as Elgin Baylor."
Taken from NBA.com : "Moreover, while he was one of the first flashy performers in basketball, many of his best acrobatic plays were never captured on film. Many observers mention his moves in the same breath with those of Julius Ervine and Michael Jordan".
I'll happilly let Magic throw him the ball on my team. I can sort out my big men in the next few picks, no way you can pass on Baylor this late. He should be long gone.
Already got the greatest PG ever, now I'm happy to pair him with one of the best shooters/players ever.
My pick:
Elgin Baylor
This guy was just ridiculous. He's a SG/SF, and over his 14 year career he averages 27.4 PPG and 13.5 RPG. Yes, 13.5 RPG. That's to go along with a cool 4.3 APG (in an era where it was harder to get credited with assists than it is now).
In 60/61, he averaged a crazy 34.8ppg, 19.8 rpg and 5.1apg. He followed that up the next season by putting up 28.3ppg, 18.6rpg and 4.6apg.
Here are some of his achievements:
NBA Rookie of the Year (1959)
All-NBA First Team 10 times (1959-65, 67-69)
Eleven-time NBA All-Star (1959-65, 1967-70)
NBA All-Star Game Co-MVP (1959)
Holds NBA Finals single-game record for most points (61) on April 24, 1962 against the Boston Celtics
Scored 71 points (8th highest in history) against the New York Knicks (Nov. 15, 1960)
No. 4 all-time with 87 regular season 40-point games.
Retired as NBA's third all-time leading scorer
Retired as fifth leading scorer in All-Star Game history (19.8 points per game)
Ranked sixth in NBA Finals all-time scoring (26.4 in 44 games)
Ranked seventh in NBA playoffs all-time scoring (27.0 in 134 games)
Became the first NBA player to finish in the top five in four different statistical categories -- scoring, rebounding, assists, and free-throw percentage.
He led the Lakers to the NBA Finals eight times.
As if you need to be sold any further, here are some quotes:
Jerry West - "He was one of the most spectacular shooters the game has ever known, I hear people talking about forwards today and I haven't seen many that can compare with him."
Tommy Hawkins (team-mate and announcer) : "pound for pound, no one was ever as great as Elgin Baylor."
Taken from NBA.com : "Moreover, while he was one of the first flashy performers in basketball, many of his best acrobatic plays were never captured on film. Many observers mention his moves in the same breath with those of Julius Ervine and Michael Jordan".
I'll happilly let Magic throw him the ball on my team. I can sort out my big men in the next few picks, no way you can pass on Baylor this late. He should be long gone.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
See, that's one of those old guys I did not know how to handle. A greater legend than all but a handful of the last 20 picks, but a 6'5" SF/PF (he was not a guard in his day) from a different era (60's basically). So I wussed out rather than have to try to explain why he was great to teenagers who consider the 80s nearly as ancient history as Rome, let alone the 60s.
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Dime Dropper
All-Star
Yes, but the only way this draft will succeed is if people judge the players by their era. Who knows what Wilt would have been like going up against guys as big and strong as him every night. This is the only logical way to do it, otherwise it'll be a guessing game as to who would have done what in each era.
Personally I think alot of the current NBA players taken were reaches.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I certainly agree to a degree, but have been wary of the realities of perspective if I have to sell this team to others. One of the problems is just knowledge -- people know the current players and may not have a great feel for the older ones, except them being old. Even I don't always know exactly WHY some of the guys who predate me (basically anyone 70s and earlier) were great. Nonetheless, there are clearly greater players historically than those that have been taken in some cases, and a guy like Elgin is right there on the borders of Top 10 all time historically. He had to be taken, and soon, or we were goign to have to rename this The Dream Team Of The Last 20 Years Draft.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
You're right, you have to get the balance right between oldies and the younger guys. I think most people will have heard how good Baylor was, though, so I'm hoping they go by that. Selling guys who people have never seen is tough (I've never seen Baylor play bar a few clips, I'm going by what I know and have heard about him).
There are going to be some steals in a few rounds. A few guys who could easily have been first rounders are going to fall due to people not knowing them.
Jespher
Starter
I've just been selecting by the criteria put forth in the rules...
All contests to be 'played' under the current NBA rules of today.
A players leadership, clutchness or lack thereof, volatility, etc. etc. should be considered along with ability.
Although it is impossible to measure 'chemistry', a team should be able to function as a 'team.'
All contests to be 'played' under the current NBA rules of today.
A players leadership, clutchness or lack thereof, volatility, etc. etc. should be considered along with ability.
Although it is impossible to measure 'chemistry', a team should be able to function as a 'team.'
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Well, I already have a dominating big man, meaning I must have someone to feed the ball to him.
With my next pick....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Cousy
Career: 18.4 points, 7.5 assists and 5.2 rebounds
The man was at the head of the Celtics dynasty.
That alone should speak volumes.
He was flashy before flashy was 'cool.'
Bob Cousy.
Hall of Famer
6 NBA Titles
Led the league is assists 8 straight years
13 time All-Star
First PG to win the MVP award
2 time All-Star MVP
10 Time All-NBA First team
With my next pick....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Cousy
Career: 18.4 points, 7.5 assists and 5.2 rebounds
The man was at the head of the Celtics dynasty.
That alone should speak volumes.
He was flashy before flashy was 'cool.'
Bob Cousy.
Hall of Famer
6 NBA Titles
Led the league is assists 8 straight years
13 time All-Star
First PG to win the MVP award
2 time All-Star MVP
10 Time All-NBA First team
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Larry89
Disgruntled Kings Fan
Gary Payton
Its never too early to switch into team building mode, and I'm a little confused what to do with all the old legends still on the board anyway. So knowing all of the star PGs that we'll be facing, and not needing a 100% pure passer with Larry Legend running the show form the SF spot, I'm selecting probably the best defensive PG in history, a 9x First Team All Defense member, the only PG to ever win the Defensive Player of the Year award -- introducing as our new PG: The Glove.
And as an aside, if it comes down to a smacktalking competition, we've got this won hands down.
AleksandarN
Starter
Gary Payton
Its never too early to switch into team building mode, and I'm a little confused what to do with all the old legends still on the board anyway. So knowing all of the star PGs that we'll be facing, and not needing a 100% pure passer with Larry Legend running the show form the SF spot, I'm selecting probably the best defensive PG in history, a 9x First Team All Defense member, the only PG to ever win the Defensive Player of the Year award -- introducing as our new PG: The Glove.
And as an aside, if it comes down to a smacktalking competition, we've got this won hands down.
I hate you **** ****. Ruined my team. The Glove was my next pick. I was hoping he was going to slip. Man this sucks big time.
Larry89
Disgruntled Kings Fan
I had Glove on my board as well.
Darn Brick.
I was considering Glove over Pippen, both versatile defenser, but I went with scottie for size..
vikinginferno
Starter
Charles Barkley and Shaq on the same team?? You do know they got into a pretty big scuffle?
venom_7
Starter
Ahh the concept of duality.
The last pick of the second round:
James Worthy
Big game James along with the Big O, my team is looking pretty good. I picked him up because he was a stellar defender averaging a steal and a block for his career, and he could score. He could score in the clutch.
17.6 ppg
5.1 rpg
3 apg
1.1 spg
.7 bpg
The last pick of the second round:
James Worthy
Big game James along with the Big O, my team is looking pretty good. I picked him up because he was a stellar defender averaging a steal and a block for his career, and he could score. He could score in the clutch.
17.6 ppg
5.1 rpg
3 apg
1.1 spg
.7 bpg
venom_7
Starter
With the first pick of the thrid round, I select:
Vlade Divac
May be a bit early, but I doubt he would get back to me. A team needs leadership, a team needs chemistry, and a team needs a facilitator. Who better than Vlade?
I will mention his stats but it must be understood that he brings so much more to the team than just numbers.
12 ppg
3 apg
8 rpg
1.4 bpg
1.1 spg
Vlade Divac
May be a bit early, but I doubt he would get back to me. A team needs leadership, a team needs chemistry, and a team needs a facilitator. Who better than Vlade?
I will mention his stats but it must be understood that he brings so much more to the team than just numbers.
12 ppg
3 apg
8 rpg
1.4 bpg
1.1 spg
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Charles Barkley and Shaq on the same team?? You do know they got into a pretty big scuffle?
However they will be dominant at the buffee line.
May I suggest The Big "O" Oliver Miller and Dinnerbell Mel Turpin to "round" out the frontcourt?
Larry89
Disgruntled Kings Fan
With the first pick of the thrid round, I select:
Vlade Divac
May be a bit early, but I doubt he would get back to me. A team needs leadership, a team needs chemistry, and a team needs a facilitator. Who better than Vlade?
I will mention his stats but it must be understood that he brings so much more to the team than just numbers.
12 ppg
3 apg
8 rpg
1.4 bpg
1.1 spg
dammit noooo
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Again like Venom, I am going to reach for my next player because he won't make it back to me.
(After hours of thought, this is NOT a reach. Webb was a monster who averaged 27 points and 13 rebounds at points through his career. Throw in leadership and passing skills...)
For the reasons Venom is picking Vlade, I am picking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Webber
Career; 20.7 points, 9.8 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 1.4 steals, 1.4 blocks
(Oh yes......That's including four plus years on a knee that had ZERO left.
If Webb could have remained the 24 point, 10+ rebound, 4.5 assist man through his prime, I don't think this would have been considered a reach AT ALL.)
Leader.
Chemistry.
Explosive.
Charismatic.
Hands.
You cannot forget what a beast he was pre knee injury.
He is your hometown hero, Chris Webber.
BUT. Another reason I picked Webber. His jump shot and passing abilities. Webb can play high post where he can either explode to the rim, pull up for his patented jumper, or pass into Wilt's waiting hands. May not be the best value at this point, but he fits into my *team* vision.
(After hours of thought, this is NOT a reach. Webb was a monster who averaged 27 points and 13 rebounds at points through his career. Throw in leadership and passing skills...)
For the reasons Venom is picking Vlade, I am picking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Webber
Career; 20.7 points, 9.8 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 1.4 steals, 1.4 blocks
(Oh yes......That's including four plus years on a knee that had ZERO left.
If Webb could have remained the 24 point, 10+ rebound, 4.5 assist man through his prime, I don't think this would have been considered a reach AT ALL.)
Leader.
Chemistry.
Explosive.
Charismatic.
Hands.
You cannot forget what a beast he was pre knee injury.
He is your hometown hero, Chris Webber.
BUT. Another reason I picked Webber. His jump shot and passing abilities. Webb can play high post where he can either explode to the rim, pull up for his patented jumper, or pass into Wilt's waiting hands. May not be the best value at this point, but he fits into my *team* vision.
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Larry89
Disgruntled Kings Fan
dimedropper gets a pick / kings gets 2 picks? or is it just 2 picks for kings
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SLAB
Hall of Famer
Kingsnation has a pick following Elgin Baylor --- Made at 11:34 today. I'll time him out at 12midnight.
Kingsnation of course also has the pick following mine.
Im not going to fault him for probably not being able to get to a computer.
The double clock has been confusing, but I won't break the rules because of this odd happening.
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