Draft Lottery (Kings get #8 pick)

Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Is it, though? I get why people were salty when we had the worst record, and ended up with the fourth pick. I get why people were salty when we had the second-worst record, and ended up with the fifth pick. I don't really get why people are salty when we had the seventh-worst record, and ended up with the eighth pick.

Now, if we were picking tenth, that I would get.
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It's because we've been in the lottery so many times and never moved up. Most of the time we've moved down. Meanwhile the Cavs are collecting number 1 picks like they're going out of fashion. It doesn't have to be logical for fans to feel hard done by; sports are emotional and this seems like an injustice, even if everyone was indeed aware of our odds going into it. May not make sense but humans are not robots and it's easy to see why it would pee people off that the Cavs are constantly getting lucky while the basketball gods continue to pee on us.
 
Why the hell does the NBA stick with such a flawed process? I ask myself this EVERY DAM YEAR!
Do they not see the NFL drafts killer ratings every year? Do they not want to try to pattern themselves after that?

Change the dam process already!!!!!
 
I think the reality is that the Kings had an opportunity here to draft top 3 and get a superstar to pair up with Cousins and had decent role guys to surround them such as Gay and IT. However, now, it feels like we're at the same place we were last season but in a worse position knowing that we received nothing in reward to our horrendous season due to just not having good enough players. Not only that, but our two "supporting stars" in IT and Gay might potentially leave us this summer. So, what happens if IT and Gay leave? We only have Cousins left! A very unhappy Cousins. It will further hinder his growth here.
I mean, as a Kings fan, I'm extremely worried. We won't get much for our #8 pick. At least not until Cousins leaves and then it's rebuild for another 10 years because we sure as hell know that no superstar will sign for a small market team that has sucked for more than a decade. We are quite literally in the worst position that we could possibly be in. Trading the pick won't get us much anyways. What could we possibly get for a #8 pick? We can get a decent wanna-be veteran who is far passed his prime whom Cousins will probably not respect anyways. I just don't see anything positive coming by the end of the summer. I will say this, I'm not going to follow the rest of the offseason and will come back in 3 months to find out what the Kings have done--I'm assuming that it's nothing much..
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Is it, though? I get why people were salty when we had the worst record, and ended up with the fourth pick. I get why people were salty when we had the second-worst record, and ended up with the fifth pick. I don't really get why people are salty when we had the seventh-worst record, and ended up with the eighth pick.

Now, if we were picking tenth, that I would get.
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Because it was time for our repayment. Our time to finally get what we deserved, considering the talent in the top 3.. Nope, once again, we have been screwed over. Now, we probably won't get a shot at Smart or Vonleh or Randle. The only decent player left is Saric and possibly Nurkic IF they develop and when that might be. It could be 4 years from now until they finally hit their form. Look how long it took Dragic. How long would it have taken Stojakovic if Vlade wasn't there. Dirk took quite a while as well. Cousins will be long gone by then. I really don't know what we can do with that pick..
 
Dime Dropper said:
It's because we've been in the lottery so many times and never moved up. Most of the time we've moved down. Meanwhile the Cavs are collecting number 1 picks like they're going out of fashion. It doesn't have to be logical for fans to feel hard done by; sports are emotional and this seems like an injustice, even if everyone was indeed aware of our odds going into it. May not make sense but humans are not robots and it's easy to see why it would pee people off that the Cavs are constantly getting lucky while the basketball gods continue to pee on us.
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I guess; I was pro-"playing to win" during the regular season, so I don't feel particularly hard done by, as I never put my eggs in the draft basket. I didn't want us to be in the position where we were trying to get a top pick.
 
Big Cuz 15 said:
Wtf as if they need anpther advantage of being in a big fa destination. Where is the rolling eyes icon
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
That doesn't make any sense: the gd lakers are going to be good sooner than later, because they're the gd lakers, and they always get who they want. You want them to be able to get the premier free agents, and the top draft prospects?

What small market team got the shaft? So, Milwaukee didn't get the Number One pick, teams with the worst record almost never get the Number One pick. They still, technically, "won" the lottery, when you consider that the lottery is only to determine the top three picks. Obviously, Cleveland is the big winner but, aside from them, who didn't get the pick they were supposed to get?
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I'm just mad that Cleveland got the #1 pick, I would prefer small market teams be rewarded, but having the #1 pick 3 out of 4 years is ridiculous. The fact that Cleveland is a terrible ogranization from top to bottom just makes it worse. As for the Lakers bit, ehh I live in So Cal so at least I would be able to watch Wiggins or Embiid all 82 games. The only time I watch Cleveland games is when they play the Kings.
 
It certainly depends on who you talk too, but this feels like an 8 player draft. At least in the sense that 8 players, to me, feel like they are closer than the rest in terms of a 'sure thing'.

Not that they will all be great, but they should all contribute.

Embiid
Wiggins
Parker
Exum
Randle
Smart
Gordon
Vonleh

8 players. We can still get one of them. Pretty safe to say Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, and Exum will be gone, but I could make a case for any of those other 4. All could come here, and aside from Randle, all could fit our future. And with Randle, He has a load of talent. You'd have to take him at 8 despite the sketchy fit with Cousins.

Sky isn't falling, really.

We could trade the pick, obviously, but we don't HAVE too. There will be talent on the board when we pick.
 
SacKings2002NBAChampions said:
Because it was time for our repayment. Our time to finally get what we deserved, considering the talent in the top 3.. Nope, once again, we have been screwed over. Now, we probably won't get a shot at Smart or Vonleh or Randle. The only decent player left is Saric and possibly Nurkic IF they develop and when that might be. It could be 4 years from now until they finally hit their form. Look how long it took Dragic. How long would it have taken Stojakovic if Vlade wasn't there. Dirk took quite a while as well. Cousins will be long gone by then. I really don't know what we can do with that pick..
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That's why you should never put all your faith in the draft, in the first place.
 
Is it so hard to give the number 1 pick to the worst team and go from there?
Seems to me the disgust is aimed more toward the cavs getting the number 1 pick AGAIN and not that the Kings didn't move up. The reasonable fan knew we probably weren't going to move up. But then the cavs get the number 1 again? C'mon!!!! The whole process is a JOKE!
 
SacKings2002NBAChampions said:
I think the reality is that the Kings had an opportunity here to draft top 3 and get a superstar to pair up with Cousins and had decent role guys to surround them such as Gay and IT. However, now, it feels like we're at the same place we were last season but in a worse position knowing that we received nothing in reward to our horrendous season due to just not having good enough players. Not only that, but our two "supporting stars" in IT and Gay might potentially leave us this summer. So, what happens if IT and Gay leave? We only have Cousins left! A very unhappy Cousins. It will further hinder his growth here.
I mean, as a Kings fan, I'm extremely worried. We won't get much for our #8 pick. At least not until Cousins leaves and then it's rebuild for another 10 years because we sure as hell know that no superstar will sign for a small market team that has sucked for more than a decade. We are quite literally in the worst position that we could possibly be in. Trading the pick won't get us much anyways. What could we possibly get for a #8 pick? We can get a decent wanna-be veteran who is far passed his prime whom Cousins will probably not respect anyways. I just don't see anything positive coming by the end of the summer. I will say this, I'm not going to follow the rest of the offseason and will come back in 3 months to find out what the Kings have done--I'm assuming that it's nothing much..
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So something good has come out of tonight, then.
 
The lottery should be the opposite of how it currently is, the teams that didn't make the playoffs with the best record should have the highest chance at the #1 pick, that way at least EVERY game is meaningful and lotto teams have something to play for in March and April and we see no tanking, you can't tell me Phoenix doesn't deserve the #1 pick after what they showed last year.
 
jcwkings said:
The lottery should be the opposite of how it currently is, the teams that didn't make the playoffs with the best record should have the highest chance at the #1 pick, that way at least EVERY game is meaningful and lotto teams have something to play for in March and April and we see no tanking, you can't tell me Phoenix doesn't deserve the #1 pick after what they showed last year.
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No, that just ensures the worst teams stay at the bottom. It's a worse system than the current one, especially for a team like us. Change for the sake of change isn't going to help anyone.
 
It's worked just fine for the most popular league in the nation.
If your bad, and your draft competently (49ers) , you will get better.
 
MassachusettsKingsFan said:
It certainly depends on who you talk too, but this feels like an 8 player draft. At least in the sense that 8 players, to me, feel like they are closer than the rest in terms of a 'sure thing'.

Not that they will all be great, but they should all contribute.

Embiid
Wiggins
Parker
Exum
Randle
Smart
Gordon
Vonleh

8 players. We can still get one of them. Pretty safe to say Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, and Exum will be gone, but I could make a case for any of those other 4. All could come here, and aside from Randle, all could fit our future. And with Randle, He has a load of talent. You'd have to take him at 8 despite the sketchy fit with Cousins.

Sky isn't falling, really.

We could trade the pick, obviously, but we don't HAVE too. There will be talent on the board when we pick.
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Yay, someone who's not cynical or over reacting. My knee jerk reaction was anger for following the potential Draft picks and not being in the running for the best. But we haven't even gotten to workouts yet. For the most part, many of us are just hurt because many of our fantasies have burst. Cleveland getting first pick again does add salt to injury, but alas #PowerForward.
 
fansinceday1 said:
It's worked just fine for the most popular league in the nation.
If your bad, and your draft competently (49ers) , you will get better.
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If any team drafts competently, you'll get better, regardless of the system. So the argument doesn't work. The fact is teams don't always draft well, and there's a much better chance at getting a good player at the top of the draft. The NBA landscape is not similar to the NFL at all - it wouldn't work.
 
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Dime Dropper said:
If any team drafts competently, you'll get better, regardless of the system. So the argument doesn't work. The fact is teams don't always draft well, and there's a much better chance at getting a good player at the top of the draft. The NBA landscape is not similar to the NFL at all - it wouldn't work.
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All I'm talking about is making the process fair. The worst team gets #1. Second worst gets #2., and so on. I fail to see what isn't fair about that. It certainly beats the current NBA lottery system.
 
fansinceday1 said:
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ll I'm talking about is making the process fair. The worst team gets #1. Second worst gets #2. I fail to see what isn't fair about that. It certainly beats the current NBA lottery system.
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Ah, sorry. I thought you were talking about something else. Your proposed system does encourage tanking but I'm struggling to see how it would be worse than the current system, given that teams tank anyway. It's probably the lesser of two evils.
 
fansinceday1 said:
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All I'm talking about is making the process fair. The worst team gets #1. Second worst gets #2., and so on. I fail to see what isn't fair about that. It certainly beats the current NBA lottery system.
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The problem is basketball only has 5 players on the court at any given time as opposed to 9, 11, etc. 1 player makes a drastic difference, so tanking would be incredibly prevalent, as evident by this previous season. That is why the NBA has the lottery. Not saying I'm happy with it, but that's currently how it is.
 
If there was any kindof merit involved, that would be something. But for the amount of good a #1 overall pick can do for a franchise (Davis, Irving, Wall, Griffin, Rose, Howard, Lebron, Yao) or for that matter even a top 3 pick, to arbitrarily assign it to the same team 3 out of 4 years just can't happen. The football draft works the way it does because depth matters more than any one position. The baseball draft works the way it does because 9 out of 10 prospects wash out in the minors anyway. The NBA is different. In the last 30 years only 1 team has won an NBA championship without a top 3 pick on their roster (bonus points if you know which team). Top 3 picks in the NBA are what build dynasties and the current system is effectively saying that regardless of anything we actually control, we won't get one no matter how bad we are.
 
Dreadnought said:
The problem is basketball only has 5 players on the court at any given time as opposed to 9, 11, etc. 1 player makes a drastic difference, so tanking would be incredibly prevalent, as evident by this previous season. That is why the NBA has the lottery. Not saying I'm happy with it, but that's currently how it is.
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The answer to tanking:
Relegation.
I know I know, it'll never happen but one can dream right? Relegation would do wonders for both the NBA and MLB.
 
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