Done Deal - Bulls and Kings - Salmons and Miller Traded

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Wtf?

First they trade Webber for nobody. Then Bibby (who is playing great) for nobody, now Miller and Salmons for nobody. petrie hasn't made a good trade since 2002. Why aren't they trading kenny thomas, shelden, and douby?
 
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what the crap? i've tended to be more cautious and defend what people thought were bad moves in the past, but this is insane. i can understand the save money now move, but salmons would be better to hang on to, he'll still have value next year and the year after that. this trade is horrendously bad. giving away all our assets for literally nothing. welcome to lottery hell.
 
Are you going to buy the Kings? :rolleyes:

They're cutting costs BUT according to at least two different articles they've told Petrie that they will open the wallets for a franchise player.

I'm stunned... some of you would complain about being hanged with a new rope.

Whatever, people... You wanted change, you got change.

I really don't think that's fair. How many people on this board wanted Salmons traded for just a salary dump? My guess is, Zero. He's definitely better than that. So we didn't get what we wanted. Not close.
 
Who knows what other options geoff had. He might have had descent options regarding salmons, but I don't think he could get much for brad. I like the fact we got rid of both of them. Of course we all wanted more in a trade, but it is all speculation on our parts to assume we could of gotten more. Despite what some on this board think, I would rather have done this trade than have salmons and/or brad on the bench next season. We really don't know if we could have done better. Anyone who says they know we could have done better is full of crap. None of us really knows what went on behind closed doors.
 
I really don't think that's fair. How many people on this board wanted Salmons traded for just a salary dump? My guess is, Zero. He's definitely better than that. So we didn't get what we wanted. Not close.
I was all for salary dump for Salmons... No more of me screaming, "John, PASS THE BALL!" followed by Salmons dribbling the ball off his foot.
 
If we are looking to trade Nocioni (who is already 29 so im pretty sure we are) who are some possiblities at taking him? One that automatically comes to mind is...the Suns who seem to be lacking a quality SF aside from Grant Hill...another team that could be interested is the Blazers who are looking for a SF but we already had a trade for Diogu from them so it wouldn't make sense. Any one else?
 
Yeah, but they got rid of him too. Imagine if Bibby, Martin and Artest were on this team together. With Miller as a decent center. And hawes and thompson are getting good. We could've been a playoff team.

Thank the great God Naismith that silliness is over. Striving to merely be a first round exit playoff team sucks... And we're looking forward finally. The last member of THE TEAM - with the exception of Bobby J - is now part of the past. It's time to close the book and start a new one.
 
Well, lets see. We get two rebounder-bangers in Nocioni and Gooden, major upside guy in Diogu (7-4 wingspan for 6-9 and 250!!!) who is real hustler and potential rebounder and unknown in Simmons in whom a number of teams had expressed interest. What does that all mean??? Beats me. Gooden becomes the 5 with Hawes I guess. The others are a confusing array. Other than cap relief next year hard to guess as 2 are youngsters.

Here is a Cedric Simmons draft report from 2006.

Simmons.
Wingspan: 7-4
Standing reach: 9-1
Maximum vertical jump: 35 inches

Positives: A big-time athlete with a body that's beginning to fill out. Unbelievable shot blocker. Explosive leaper. Excellent rebounder. Long arms give him a chance to be a center in the pros. Has put on quite a bit of muscle. Shows a lot of toughness in the paint, especially on the defensive end. Great in the open court.

Negatives: A very raw player on the offensive end. No real shooting touch to speak of. Gets most of his points via dunks.

My vote on this at this point: 5 out of 10.


Not this again.. Simmons is a bust.
 
If we are looking to trade Nocioni (who is already 29 so im pretty sure we are) who are some possiblities at taking him? One that automatically comes to mind is...the Suns who seem to be lacking a quality SF aside from Grant Hill...another team that could be interested is the Blazers who are looking for a SF but we already had a trade for Diogu from them so it wouldn't make sense. Any one else?

I think Nocioni was basically considered untradeable until this deal happened.

Toronto's the only halfway plausible one I see.
 
Thank the great God Naismith that silliness is over. Striving to merely be a first round exit playoff team sucks... And we're looking forward finally. The last member of THE TEAM - with the exception of Bobby J - is now part of the past. It's time to close the book and start a new one.

We wont win the championship any time soon with trades like this.
 
Wow! I just turned on kingsfans and saw the trade! I have to admit, I wanted something more exciting. However, I was a fan of Diogu's in college :)

Also, Idk why everyone is so down on Nocioni. Sure his contract sucks, but he is going to give us more bang for his buck than half of our other players.

I think his production declined because he was tired of Chicago. I think he will be a very nice role player for this team. Someone who plays a team game, and does a bit of everything.

Let this trade pan out a bit people before you jump off the mountain...

We have no idea what was out there as fans, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE.

And guess what? If Geoff didn't bite and take the trade. ... and kept BOTH Salmons and Miller ---> You would have all called for his head anyways :rolleyes:

Look, we have been calling for BOTH Miller and Salmons to be gone all year... Do you not think that other teams really want our crap??
 
This trade absolutely stinks. Maloofs, Petrie, whoever else is responsible. You have to look at all of them in the front office/management and realize that they're so behind the times. As a unit, they just don't "get it".

Gooden, Simmons, Diogu = Garbage.

As for Nocioni, if anyone is going to miss Salmons (anyone?) - you'll get over it quick when you see how much of a shot-hog Noicioni is. It's just Salmons with a different accent and lighter skin.

So the Kings get a little cap relief, BUT not enough to help the team in the next few years AND no players or picks that will help them in the next few years rebuilding.

If we're lucky, Drew Gooden will do like Cassell and sit at home hoping to be waived so he can join another team.
 
Would everyone have preferred the deal with the Nets instead? It seemed just as bad to me. GP should have waited it out and traded them seperately.
 
So what is the Kings roster now (Before waiving anyone)

PG: Beno, Bjax, BBrown, Cassell
SG: Martin, Cisco, Douby
SF: Nocioni, Greene
PF: JT, Gooden, Diogu, Simmons, Moore, K9, Sheldon
C: Hawes
C'mon, can't you see it...this is NOW a championship caliber team. :rolleyes:
 
Why do people think we've got Diogu?

AFAIK, he's not in the trade. Portland didn't get involved. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any site say Diogu was included, only rumours before it became official.
 
And the Winner Is....

It's Brad Miller, of course. He's rewarded for his terrible play. How fitting. Going back home, where, a couple of years ago, he said he wanted to end his career. Petrie, you are a peach. You helped out good old Brad. Thanks. We really appreciate it, especially at all of our expense.:o
 
The Kings will be at 56mil next year right? The Kings are -10mil in Salary next year.

Well SAR's salary comes off and if we buy out Mikki as we all expect, that's another 10 so closer to 45. We have to sign our draft picks for about 5 putting us at 50. There are guys like Sessions and Milsap out there that could be had for our cap space...but I highly doubt we go on a spending spree.
 
Now that I think about it It will be kinda nice to have Noc out there.. beside our outher twirp guards. at least hes going to bang people like Artest did. PLus Cisco and Noc is alot of definsive Energy and three point shooting to be out there all at once.

I still hate gooden tho and he better cut off his stupid beard wherever it may be these days.
 
Well SAR's salary comes off and if we buy out Mikki as we all expect, that's another 10 so closer to 45. We have to sign our draft picks for about 5 putting us at 50. There are guys like Sessions and Milsap out there that could be had for our cap space...but I highly doubt we go on a spending spree.


Ahh yah.. Forgot about SAR's contract.. So the Kings are in pretty good cap space for 2009.. Not expecting them to sign anyone but it's nice to have. If we got rid of Beno for capspace then we can make a run at Sessions.
 
There is still a glimmer of hope that Salmons isn't included in this trade, hopefully the 15% trade kicker might make Chicago think differently about adding the extra 2million onto salmons contract (hopefully) and take Moore instead... We could then swing a deal to OKC for a draft pick(SA's or Denver's) and expiriing and I'd be much happier all around... I think we'll know in a few more hours if this is the completed version or if it'll be expanded
 
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