David West?

[Fear the Putin]

first off, JT cant start at center...
Unless he gains some considerable bulk in the offseason, he simply gets bullied on the block.

2nd, west is all offense. We need an interior presence. That is what we are lacking right now. Teams are going inside and aren't getting contested at the basket unless it's one of our SF's flying in like f-14's to swat the ball.

 

[The Hammer]

well i would like west on the team i think he improves the team by getting high % shots. Okafor gets 9.9 reb a game jt gets 9.2, is jt the classic center no, how many classic centers are out there not many, jt can play center his defense is suspect i agree but he can play the position. The kings need a post player and west is a good one, no thanks on the okafor deal he makes to much for what he brings, if they take noc then we might be talking.

Honestly, I think you are too focused on stats. A lot of a player's defensive ability cannot be measured in stats (especially interior defenders). This is what Okafor brings. At this point, he is pretty much the ideal fit for our team, I don't see anyone in the league, barring a franchise type player (but even then, defense will still be suspect-- Bosh, Amare, etc.) who is a better fit for us.

Again. We do not need scoring people. With our most potent pure scorer out pretty much the whole season so far, we are what fifth in the league in points scored???

If you watch the games, really, what we need, and it's pretty obvious, is interior defense. I'm sure every gm in the league can see that about us. And we're not getting that hole filled in a quality way for anything less than what Okafor makes. I say we make a push to get him. KT, Noc, maybe even more... but we've got to get him or someone like him, if we want to win a championships that is. And we might as well get that guy sooner rather than later, so he can start gelling and growing with this great young squad we've assembled. Can anyone argue these points??

 

[pdxKingsFan]

NO wants to dump salary so we're not going to get to dump Noc in a move for Okafor (or West). But we could still put together attractive sign and trade deals during the free agent season.

I still think the dream scenario is KT for Okafor and then Martin + Hawes (or JT if we really had to) for Bosh in either a deadline deal or a sign and trade. When it becomes clear that Toronto can't keep him we could be players.

With that lineup we could safely ride out the contracts of the remaining dead weight.

 

[Bricklayer]

I still think the dream scenario is KT for Okafor and then Martin + Hawes (or JT if we really had to) for Bosh in either a deadline deal or a sign and trade. When it becomes clear that Toronto can't keep him we could be players.

I don't know whether you merely borrowed my dream, or whether we had the same one, but yeah. Much as I have some questions about each guy, if you could by some miracle do both of those, even throwing in what had to be thrown in, I would take this lineup and almost guarantee a 50+win perennial playoff team, and maybe more than that:

PF/C- Okafor
PF/C- Bosh
PF/C- Thompson
SF/PF- Noc
SG/SF/PF- Greene
SG/SF/PF- Casspi
SG/SF- Garcia
PG/SG- Evans
PG/SG- Beno

That's a highly versatile nine man rotation with almost every conceivable aspect covered. THREE 6'10"+ 10reb type bigs. A shotblocker. 2 20pt scorers. Great size+length on the wings. FIVE potent three point shooters. There would basically be no holes.

 

[ParniValjak]

I don't know whether you merely borrowed my dream, or whether we had the same one, but yeah. Much as I have some questions about each guy, if you could by some miracle do both of those, even throwing in what had to be thrown in, I would take this lineup and almost guarantee a 50+win perennial playoff team, and maybe more than that:

PF/C- Okafor
PF/C- Bosh
PF/C- Thompson
SF/PF- Noc
SG/SF/PF- Greene
SG/SF/PF- Casspi
SG/SF- Garcia
PG/SG- Evans
PG/SG- Beno

That's a highly versatile nine man rotation with almost every conceivable aspect covered. THREE 6'10"+ 10reb type bigs. A shotblocker. 2 20pt scorers. Great size+length on the wings. FIVE potent three point shooters. There would basically be no holes.

It would be an ideal scenario but one questions is, would the Maloofs commit to that much salary?!

I think it would potentially by a champioship calibre team if everything clicks.

You have an inside-outside all-star pairing with Reke and Bosh. You have an interior shotblocker/defender/rebounder who would get out of the way on offense. Great length and altheticism on wings and a great deal of versatility because every one of those guys can play multiple positions so there is a lot of different looks you can throw at the opposition.

With that line up, even if you go "smallball" you are still going to be big! Nellie would not know what to do here!

 

[CaminoChaos]

PF/C- Okafor
PF/C- Bosh
PF/C- Thompson
SF/PF- Noc
SG/SF/PF- Greene
SG/SF/PF- Casspi
SG/SF- Garcia
PG/SG- Evans
PG/SG- Beno

I like.

 

[bajaden]

its tagalog..

he probably picked up the basics like mabuhay, magandang umaga...

Thanks for the spelling correction. Its been a long time since I was there. Anything I know from the language is unprintable, so I'll refrain.

 

[bajaden]

I don't know whether you merely borrowed my dream, or whether we had the same one, but yeah. Much as I have some questions about each guy, if you could by some miracle do both of those, even throwing in what had to be thrown in, I would take this lineup and almost guarantee a 50+win perennial playoff team, and maybe more than that:

PF/C- Okafor
PF/C- Bosh
PF/C- Thompson
SF/PF- Noc
SG/SF/PF- Greene
SG/SF/PF- Casspi
SG/SF- Garcia
PG/SG- Evans
PG/SG- Beno

That's a highly versatile nine man rotation with almost every conceivable aspect covered. THREE 6'10"+ 10reb type bigs. A shotblocker. 2 20pt scorers. Great size+length on the wings. FIVE potent three point shooters. There would basically be no holes.

You forgot Wall... Hey, if were going to make up our own dreams, we might as well go the max..

 

[Uncia03]

I'd be most excited about getting any of the following three players:
Okafor
Noah
Perkins

All three are starting Caliber defensive-oriented Centers, and if Chandler's health could be guaranteed I'd put him right there as well.

If any need reminding of the value of a defensive Center just consider the job that Perkins did on Dwight Howard in the play-offs last season. Of course that's why Boston would never trade him, but he'd be easier to get than Howard so I'm putting him on my list.

Noah we might be able to pry away from Chicago in a Noah/Jerome James (Expiring) for Martin deal. He's a knucklehead, but he brings what we need at the center position.

Okafor seems to be the easiest to pick up with KT's expiring, and he'd be fantastic.

As has been mentioned, if you do the Okafor/KT deal, then you do leave yourself the opportunity to potentially do a Bosh/Martin trade, which combined in the frontcourt with Okafor would be championship caliber. Obviously I'd rather keep JT coming off the bench and include Hawes in a Bosh/Martin trade, but I don't think you can deny how good a Tyreke/Bosh/Okafor/Greene/Casspi team would be. *shiver*

As to the original topic of this thread, West does absolutely nothing for our team. He's a solid player but would be a horrible fit for what we're trying to do with this Kings team.

 

[Fear the Putin]

I don't know whether you merely borrowed my dream, or whether we had the same one, but yeah. Much as I have some questions about each guy, if you could by some miracle do both of those, even throwing in what had to be thrown in, I would take this lineup and almost guarantee a 50+win perennial playoff team, and maybe more than that:

PF/C- Okafor
PF/C- Bosh
PF/C- Thompson
SF/PF- Noc
SG/SF/PF- Greene
SG/SF/PF- Casspi
SG/SF- Garcia
PG/SG- Evans
PG/SG- Beno

That's a highly versatile nine man rotation with almost every conceivable aspect covered. THREE 6'10"+ 10reb type bigs. A shotblocker. 2 20pt scorers. Great size+length on the wings. FIVE potent three point shooters. There would basically be no holes.

and if we somehow get Bosh, we might get some interest from a free agent big man & pg that we can sign as backups.

 

[King Baller]

I think Hawes is going to come around THIS season and play much better. KMart launching those 3's with regularity should help loosen up the opposing teams defense.

So while I agree with most of you that a big 7 foot center similar to Alonzo Mourning would be ideal, David West would be a nice addition to the Kings for the short term while the current Bigs mature.

KB

 

[Bricklayer]

I think Hawes is going to come around THIS season and play much better. KMart launching those 3's with regularity should help loosen up the opposing teams defense.

That argument continues to pop up around here form time to time as people continue to ignore the fact we are 6th in the NBA in 3pt shooting right NOW. And when Kevin comes back he's going to be taking the minutes of some of the guys who have helped us to that number. There might be a little bump, but this we need Kevin for his three point shooting stuff is silly. Our 3pt shooting has by and large been great. Best thing we do on offense.

And as an aside, I am not sure Spencer has been doubleteamed once in his entire career in the NBA, "loosening up" the defense isn't going to help him much unless you think opposing centers are going to start leaving him to go guard our 3pt line.

 

[piksi]

FIVE potent three point shooters. There would basically be no holes.

other than injuries

 

[Rookie]

PF/C- Okafor
PF/C- Bosh
PF/C- Thompson
SF/PF- Noc
SG/SF/PF- Greene
SG/SF/PF- Casspi
SG/SF- Garcia
PG/SG- Evans
PG/SG- Beno

Love it.

 

[King Baller]

That argument continues to pop up around here form time to time as people continue to ignore the fact we are 6th in the NBA in 3pt shooting right NOW. And when Kevin comes back he's going to be taking the minutes of some of the guys who have helped us to that number. There might be a little bump, but this we need Kevin for his three point shooting stuff is silly. Our 3pt shooting has by and large been great. Best thing we do on offense.

And as an aside, I am not sure Spencer has been doubleteamed once in his entire career in the NBA, "loosening up" the defense isn't going to help him much unless you think opposing centers are going to start leaving him to go guard our 3pt line.

The great thing about this discussion is that we will see KMart come back in a few weeks. Then it won't just be your opinion vs. my opinion

As far as the traffic in the paint I think its mostly due to Tyreke's driving ability and the Fact that Beno likes to stop and pop from midrange. Put Omri, Kmart and Donte around the 3 pt. line and pass the ball 2 to 3 times and then lets see if the paint opens up. Whether its Tyreke taking it to the hole or post play by Hawes and JT it will be more effective.

KB

 

[King Baller]

As for Okafor & Bosh as Kings, whats not to like?

KB