Cousins is Mentally Weak

[Bibbilicious]

My take on Cousins currently is that although he is hugely talented, a lot of the time it just seems wasted because he doesnt seem to have chemistry with a lot of the players on the team. Or I guess to be more fair sometimes he might but at other times he just disrupts the chemistry. I dont think he is a ball hog, but hes just so inconsistent sometimes.

 

[LWP777]

You sir, puzzle me. Any time someone calls you out for a flawed argument you get all hurt and say they're personally attacking you. But you have no qualms telling Padrino that he is a horrible human being

I know. I'm not attacking and being attacked. And, by the way, I get about 10x the personal insults directed towards me than what I dish out. All because I don't like Cousins.

 

[The_Jamal]

I'm so sick of p/36 numbers being incorrectly used and the general reverence of Samuel Dalembert. The guy plays 17 MPG on a .500 team, as he has his whole career. He's not a good locker-room presence, he can't defend the PF (hasn't the whole year) and he's not even an average defensive player anymore. His defensive metrics are terrible (I'll list them if you want) and the Bucks defense improves by 5 points when he's not on the floor. There are plenty of better options for us to pursue (Brand, Tiago, Okafor).

Of course, if you blindly follow a counting statistic like Blocks/game you might be inclined to like him.

 

[Glenn]

As the last significant FA signing was Vlade, I think the only chance of us signing a FA shot blocker is to go after Daly and that failed last time. You miss my point of going after him.

 

[The_Jamal]

As the last significant FA signing was Vlade, I think the only chance of us signing a FA shot blocker is to go after Daly and that failed last time. You miss my point of going after him.

Then we stand pat. Roll with the Ppat-Cousins-JT trio and wait for an opportunity to find a better defensive anchor. Signing a player like Dally just to make a move would be a terrible overreaction from new management

 

[Bricklayer]

Then we stand pat. Roll with the Ppat-Cousins-JT trio and wait for an opportunity to find a better defensive anchor. Signing a player like Dally just to make a move would be a terrible overreaction from new management

Actually it would be a nice little move -- come cheap, fill the hole we have with the right style player, with familiarity, and not disrupt what we have going. Our frontline from 2 years ago was easily the best we've had in the past 8 years, recreating it with a older Daly with a smaller role would be just fine by me. We were second in the entire NBA in rebounding that season. Then we blew it on midgets and smallball. Here's hoping that after April that philosophy is dead, buried, and the grave peed on by the neighbor's dog.

But I have a feeling larger moves than that will be pondered.

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm so sick of p/36 numbers being incorrectly used and the general reverence of Samuel Dalembert. The guy plays 17 MPG on a .500 team, as he has his whole career. He's not a good locker-room presence, he can't defend the PF (hasn't the whole year) and he's not even an average defensive player anymore. His defensive metrics are terrible (I'll list them if you want) and the Bucks defense improves by 5 points when he's not on the floor. There are plenty of better options for us to pursue (Brand, Tiago, Okafor).

Of course, if you blindly follow a counting statistic like Blocks/game you might be inclined to like him.

I'll take your Brand suggestion as a pretty good joke -- have you ever considered hanging out at a gynastics board? Your fascination with short people in a tall person's sport is amazing, and no matter how often it works out poorly you come back for more. Tiago is a product of the Spurs system, taking him and assuming he can be anything like he is coached by Pop alongside Duncan would be a huge leap. Okafor is the right style and was always a theoretical option, but as usual has shown limited impact in Washington. Guess with him it will depend just how ridiculous an mount of money he'll be chasing this time.

I will also note it was an absolutely spot on use of per 36 numbers, comparing two players who play the same position, have a similar role, and average within 5min of each other and just using per36 to smooth the numbers out and get a clean look at productivity.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

Sorry but you are now on my ignore list. You are getting very personal with your insulting comments and I'm trying to stay away from that from now on here. Have a wonderful evening sir.

Lol.

To tweak Dennis Green's infamous quote a bit, "this guy is who we thought he was!".

The fact that he just tapped out, citing bogus reasons, tells me all I need to know about how strongly he feels about his flawed opinion. He's got nothing to back it up and can't refute the known facts.

All you had to do is keep your promise and admit you were wrong and I would have dropped this long ago. I'll certainly drop it now though.

 

[Telemachus]

My take on Cousins currently is that although he is hugely talented, a lot of the time it just seems wasted because he doesnt seem to have chemistry with a lot of the players on the team. Or I guess to be more fair sometimes he might but at other times he just disrupts the chemistry. I dont think he is a ball hog, but hes just so inconsistent sometimes.

Ironically, I think one of Cousins' problems is that he plays "team basketball" on offense on a team full of one-on-one players. When they run the offense through Cousins in the high post (with everyone moving) that is when our offense is at its best (and when the Kings pile up the assists). Defense is another animal altogether, as most of the Kings players are inconsistent at playing team defense (with only a few good individual defenders).

 

[The_Jamal]

I'll take your Brand suggestion as a pretty good joke -- have you ever considered hanging out at a gynastics board? Your fascination with short people in a tall person's sport is amazing, and no matter how often it works out poorly you come back for more. Tiago is a product of the Spurs system, taking him and assuming he can be anything like he is coached by Pop alongside Duncan would be a huge leap. Okafor is the right style and was always a theoretical option, but as usual has shown limited impact in Washington. Guess with him it will depend just how ridiculous an mount of money he'll be chasing this time.

I will also note it was an absolutely spot on use of per 36 numbers, comparing two players who play the same position, have a similar role, and average within 5min of each other and just using per36 to smooth the numbers out and get a clean look at productivity.

lol

I find it astonishing you won't spend 5 minutes finding out how damn good Brand has been the last 4-5 years playing defense or how Splitter is emerging as one of the league's elit defensive bigs. Height arugment against Brand? Are you kidding me? Brand has been one of the top post defenders in the NBA the last 4 or 5 years and has anchored top defenses on multiple occasions. He's slowed a step, but he's still having a nice defensive year in Dallas in a back-up role

Thinking Splitter is a simply a product of Pop's system is an even bigger joke . Sure, he benefits from Pop's system like everyone who plays for SA, but who doesn't? Would you not take Tony Parker because he "benefits from Pop's system"? The guy is an incredibly skilled big on both ends of the court. He's shown to be a high-caliber defensive anchor and stays out of the way on offense. You don't forget how to be a defensive player, especially one of Splitter's caliber. Bringing in a highly-skilled, high b-ball IQ, verging on elite defensive big who doesn't demand shots offensively is EXACTLY the kind of players we want surrounding Reke and Cousins

I'll eat crow on Chuck. I was wrong and he didn't turn out the way I thought he would. Brand is no Chuck Hayes. Better defender, better rebounder, better offensive player. Just flat out a better player and one that can be a defensive leader for us and be a mentor for our young bigs.

Dally is horrid. Terrible defensive metrics and his team gets way better defensively when he's off the floor. You can continue to think his p/36 numbers have meaning though...

 

[Gilles]

"done" might have been too strong a word. however, he is supposed to be in his prime and has trouble getting off the bench on a team that, for whatever reason, seems to want to win now ad has been in decline for a few years now. he could still be of service here, but your last paragraph is spot on in that regard. Sammy isn't coming back. still a damn shame the Kings didn't resign him 2 years ago.

If you look, who's starting (Larry Saunders), there wouldn't be question, why Sammy is not. Plus their GM is like anti-Petrie - he apparently want to get every guy, who can block shots, plus they retained Ilyasova and think that Mbah a Moute is better at PF, so they have ridiculous battle for front court minutes.

 

[KingsFanGER]

lol
Height arugment against Brand? Are you kidding me? Brand has been one of the top post defenders in the NBA the last 4 or 5 years and has anchored top defenses on multiple occasions. He's slowed a step, but he's still having a nice defensive year in Dallas in a back-up role

I didnt watch the Mavs for some time, but can Brand be a shotblocking presence? I dont question, that he is a good post defender, but he is a relatively undersized, aging PF. From my point of view DMC, JT and Patterson are solid as post defenders, but are not able to protect the paint versus guards and SF, that decide to take it to the rim, because they are all lacking the athleticism, the timing or the size to block shots. Do you really think Brand is so different from the guys already at our roster when it comes to shotblocking ?

Dally is horrid. Terrible defensive metrics and his team gets way better defensively when he's off the floor.

I m not a fan of Dalembert, but he can undoubtably block shots and therefore may be a nice addition for the Kings. There are not that many teams, which have two strong post players in their starting linup. Because of that I think that Cousins guarding the opposing post player, while Dalembert playing help defense might work under certain circumstances. I would prefer a younger, quicker PF over Dalembert though (f.e. Ed Davis), but if noone is available for the Kings Dalembert might be the best bet.

 

[jalfa]

If you look, who's starting (Larry Saunders), there wouldn't be question, why Sammy is not. Plus their GM is like anti-Petrie - he apparently want to get every guy, who can block shots, plus they retained Ilyasova and think that Mbah a Moute is better at PF, so they have ridiculous battle for front court minutes.

I'm very familiar with The Show, he's one of my current favourites in the league and if there were any chance for the Kings to pry him away from the Bucks and pair him with Cuz they'd be insane not to do so. he does only play 26 minutes though, leaving 72 frontcourt minutes unaccouted for. anyway, I'm really not in the business of Daly bashing. I was overjoyed when the Kings got him (last trade that Petrie legitimately won, imo) and was sad to see him go. Brick's right though that bridge is burned and we should be focussing on other targets.

Jamal's Splitter idea for instance seems nearly perfect, if the Spurs actually let him go. a guy that can anchor a defense, shut people down, rebound and, aside from hitting outside jumpers, do precisely those things on offense that we'd need next to Cuz (set good screens, roll hard and finish chippies under the basket)? yes, please!

 

[kupman]

Rather than saying he is "mentally weak," I would say he lacks respect for others. Most obviously, he dis-respects the officials and this has never done him any favors. He also dis-respects his opponents. Perhaps most troubling, he dis-respects his coaches and teammates. Ultimately, he dis-respects himself and his family.

There is a alot of chest thumping that goes along with all of it. Many will say it is a product of being very competitive. I don't buy it. It is very possible to be very competitive, while at the same time showing respect for others and the game. It is a very serious issue for DMC that could lead to his failing. Most alarming, I have seen no evidence that he has any insight to how his lack of respect for others is a serious problem.

 

[ppine]

Kupman,
Good words. Semantics seems to really confuse some people. Some on this forum cannot seem to express themselves without being insulting. To them I say you are mentally weak. People that have confidence in themselves do not have a need to insult others for merely expressing their point of view.

Cousins takes nights off all the time. How else do explain "a person with so much talent" scoring 8 points?

 

[Padrino]

Kupman,
Good words. Semantics seems to really confuse some people. Some on this forum cannot seem to express themselves without being insulting. To them I say you are mentally weak. People that have confidence in themselves do not have a need to insult others for merely expressing their point of view.

Cousins takes nights off all the time. How else do explain "a person with so much talent" scoring 8 points?

hahaha, i like how you seem to be a fan of posing rhetorical questions that have possible answers ranging well beyond the conclusions you're so prone to arriving at. here's a rational example response: demarcus cousins is a young talent at the toughest position to play in the contemporary nba, and if he's "off" on some nights, it does not necessarily mean he's "taking nights off." it simply means he put in a poor performance, and i guarantee you nobody is more frustrated about those poor performances than demarcus...

 

[The Hammer]

Kupman,
Good words. Semantics seems to really confuse some people. Some on this forum cannot seem to express themselves without being insulting. To them I say you are mentally weak. People that have confidence in themselves do not have a need to insult others for merely expressing their point of view.

Cousins takes nights off all the time. How else do explain "a person with so much talent" scoring 8 points?

I'm glad padrino nailed your *** on this one, but I'd just like to throw in my opinion that this is a total joke of an argument. And I do mean a total, complete, 100% joke of a statement.

In fact, tossing out such a poorly, poorly constructed argument, which is so clearly meant to be slanderous, is grounds to completely disqualify you from any serious debate on the subject.

I repeat: your "argument" is a 100% failure of a statement.

As an aside, I'm not insulting you as a person, but I am attempting to completely discredit your argument and destroy any shred of credibility you may carry in discussing the topic.

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm very familiar with The Show, he's one of my current favourites in the league and if there were any chance for the Kings to pry him away from the Bucks and pair him with Cuz they'd be insane not to do so. he does only play 26 minutes though, leaving 72 frontcourt minutes unaccouted for. anyway, I'm really not in the business of Daly bashing. I was overjoyed when the Kings got him (last trade that Petrie legitimately won, imo) and was sad to see him go. Brick's right though that bridge is burned and we should be focussing on other targets.

Jamal's Splitter idea for instance seems nearly perfect, if the Spurs actually let him go. a guy that can anchor a defense, shut people down, rebound and, aside from hitting outside jumpers, do precisely those things on offense that we'd need next to Cuz (set good screens, roll hard and finish chippies under the basket)? yes, please!

Splitter does NOT anchor the Spurs defense. This idea is kinda bizarre. I didn't even know that somehow people had gotten that confused. Its the Chuck Hayes mistake all over again. Being a good man defender =/= anchoring anything. Being a good team defender next to a big basket protector =/= anchor either. Tim Duncan has been working with BALCO this year methinks, he's the anchor. Splitter occupies the Rasho Nestrovic, Francisco Overto, Nazr Mohammed role.

Here the stats:
28.5min 11.2pts (.520 .694) 6.8reb 1.1ast 0.6stl 0.7blk 1.3TO

oh...wait...sorry, those were JT's stats. These are Splitter's:
24.3min 10.5pts (.582 .735) 6.2reb 1.5ast 0.7stl 0.7blk 1.1TO


Here's the big anchor's numbers:
Tim Duncan
29.7min 16.9pts (.499 .803) 9.8reb 2.6ast 0.8stl 2.6blk 1.9TO

 

[bajaden]

Rather than saying he is "mentally weak," I would say he lacks respect for others. Most obviously, he dis-respects the officials and this has never done him any favors. He also dis-respects his opponents. Perhaps most troubling, he dis-respects his coaches and teammates. Ultimately, he dis-respects himself and his family.

There is a alot of chest thumping that goes along with all of it. Many will say it is a product of being very competitive. I don't buy it. It is very possible to be very competitive, while at the same time showing respect for others and the game. It is a very serious issue for DMC that could lead to his failing. Most alarming, I have seen no evidence that he has any insight to how his lack of respect for others is a serious problem.

So, if you personally get angry at your wife, friend, brother, sister, work companion, father, mother, or boss, that means you have no respect for them? Thats how you see the world. Anyone you have a heated disagreement with, that automaticly means you have no respect for them. Right! Welcome to La La land. And just what do you know about his family for you to say he doesn't respect his family. Have you ever met his mother? I have!!!! I had a nice talk with her along with Cruzdude at summer league, and I can assure you that Cousins respects his mother. He doesn't have a father.

The truth is, you and no one else here has any clue about who Cousins respects or doesn't respect. You think you can sit at home and watch your TV and then pass judgement on someone you've never spoken to and actually know little about. Other than what you actually see, and how your interpret what you see, is all you actually know. The rest is all someone else's opinion. You actually know as much about Cousins, as you do me, and believe me, you have no clue who I'am and what I'm like.

Its one thing to be critical of someones actions, but quite another to delve into what you think is in that persons mind, and then pass judgement on it. I love your words, "Most Troubling", "Serious Issue", "Most Alarming", "Serious Problem". My god, it sounds like your talking about North Korea. Your entitled to say what you want, but I'm entitled to heatedly disagree, and yes, I'm still able to respect you while doing it.

 

[Dime Dropper]

Splitter does NOT anchor the Spurs defense. This idea is kinda bizarre. I didn't even know that somehow people had gotten that confused. Its the Chuck Hayes mistake all over again. Being a good man defender =/= anchoring anything. Being a good team defender next to a big basket protector =/= anchor either. Tim Duncan has been working with BALCO this year methinks, he's the anchor. Splitter occupies the Rasho Nestrovic, Francisco Overto, Nazr Mohammed role.

Here the stats:
28.5min 11.2pts (.520 .694) 6.8reb 1.1ast 0.6stl 0.7blk 1.3TO

oh...wait...sorry, those were JT's stats. These are Splitter's:
24.3min 10.5pts (.582 .735) 6.2reb 1.5ast 0.7stl 0.7blk 1.1TO


Here's the big anchor's numbers:
Tim Duncan
29.7min 16.9pts (.499 .803) 9.8reb 2.6ast 0.8stl 2.6blk 1.9TO

I love it when the inevitable happens.

 

[bajaden]

lol

I find it astonishing you won't spend 5 minutes finding out how damn good Brand has been the last 4-5 years playing defense or how Splitter is emerging as one of the league's elit defensive bigs. Height arugment against Brand? Are you kidding me? Brand has been one of the top post defenders in the NBA the last 4 or 5 years and has anchored top defenses on multiple occasions. He's slowed a step, but he's still having a nice defensive year in Dallas in a back-up role

Thinking Splitter is a simply a product of Pop's system is an even bigger joke . Sure, he benefits from Pop's system like everyone who plays for SA, but who doesn't? Would you not take Tony Parker because he "benefits from Pop's system"? The guy is an incredibly skilled big on both ends of the court. He's shown to be a high-caliber defensive anchor and stays out of the way on offense. You don't forget how to be a defensive player, especially one of Splitter's caliber. Bringing in a highly-skilled, high b-ball IQ, verging on elite defensive big who doesn't demand shots offensively is EXACTLY the kind of players we want surrounding Reke and Cousins

I'll eat crow on Chuck. I was wrong and he didn't turn out the way I thought he would. Brand is no Chuck Hayes. Better defender, better rebounder, better offensive player. Just flat out a better player and one that can be a defensive leader for us and be a mentor for our young bigs.

Dally is horrid. Terrible defensive metrics and his team gets way better defensively when he's off the floor. You can continue to think his p/36 numbers have meaning though...

I'd have to say that on paper and to the eye, Dally is probably a better shotblocker than Brand, but I'm one of those that falls into the camp of liking Brand better than Dalembert. Where I guess I get confused is where the line is drawn between a normal sized PF and an undersized PF. And, are we just talking about the top of a players head, or his standing reach? Because as someone once said, you don't rebound, and I'll add in block shots, with the top of your head.

There's a reason why Brand has always been a good rebounder and defender, and thats because he has a standing reach of 9'2". Ironicly, the same standing reach as the 7'0.5" center, Tyson Chandler. How about Nene Hilario, who is 6'10.5" in shoes, but has a standing reach of 9'1". Standing reach is one of the reasons that the center for Indiana, Cody Zeller scares me. He stands 6'11.5" in shoes, but only has a wingspan of 6'8". Compare that to Elton Brand, who by the way is 6'9.5" in shoes, but has a wingspan 7'5.5". Which brings me back to my question, and I'm serious about this. Where is the line between normal and undersized. To my mind, 6'9.5" is decent size for a PF. Sure, anything taller than that is bonus, but if you look around the NBA today, you'll see a lot of guys playing PF that are 6'9" or under.

The only flaw I find in Brand now, is that he's lost some of his athleticism. But he's still a solid player, and would be a nice two year stop gap while developing or finding a longrange replacement.

 

[bajaden]

Kupman,
Good words. Semantics seems to really confuse some people. Some on this forum cannot seem to express themselves without being insulting. To them I say you are mentally weak. People that have confidence in themselves do not have a need to insult others for merely expressing their point of view.

Cousins takes nights off all the time. How else do explain "a person with so much talent" scoring 8 points?

Number one, your being contentious. Something I despise from anyone, including myself! Secondly, how can anyone explain Cousins only scoring 8 points? Wow, what an open ended statement. I could easily come up with a hundred reasons, but lets just go with a simple one. He just had a bad night! As I stated in another thread, I watched Chris Webber go 2 for 22 one night. Did that make him a bad player? Of course not, anymore than if a player who averages 12 pts a game, suddenly goes off for 45 pts, makes him a superstar.

As far as Cousins taking nights off, I disagree in the sense that he just suddenly decides, gee, I think I'll take the night off. Thats ridiculous. Do I think he gets caught up in arguing bad or non calls and it distracts him from what he should be doing? Your damm right I do! At least this year I do. Last season, I thought he was simply not in the shape he needed to be in to play 30 plus minutes a game effectively, and I said so. But this year, he's in far better shape, and I don't think the grind of the game affects him nearly as bad. But yes, he has some areas he needs to correct, but it has nothing to do with being mentally weak. It has to do with controling his emotions.

 

[The_Jamal]

Splitter does NOT anchor the Spurs defense. This idea is kinda bizarre. I didn't even know that somehow people had gotten that confused. Its the Chuck Hayes mistake all over again. Being a good man defender =/= anchoring anything. Being a good team defender next to a big basket protector =/= anchor either. Tim Duncan has been working with BALCO this year methinks, he's the anchor. Splitter occupies the Rasho Nestrovic, Francisco Overto, Nazr Mohammed role.

Here the stats:
28.5min 11.2pts (.520 .694) 6.8reb 1.1ast 0.6stl 0.7blk 1.3TO

oh...wait...sorry, those were JT's stats. These are Splitter's:
24.3min 10.5pts (.582 .735) 6.2reb 1.5ast 0.7stl 0.7blk 1.1TO


Here's the big anchor's numbers:
Tim Duncan
29.7min 16.9pts (.499 .803) 9.8reb 2.6ast 0.8stl 2.6blk 1.9TO

None of what you just said refuted any part of Splitter not being the anchor. It's really weird how obsessed you are with players that can block shots, but are terrible defensively. I award you no points... and may god have mercy on your soul.

 

[ppine]

If my argument has no credibility, how did we get to 15 pages so fast?

A lot of people on this forum know very little about the mental warfare aspects of basketball. As I mentioned before, I grew up playing street ball around Washington DC for money, usually white guys against black guys. I played under-sized center in a high school league that sent many players to the ACC including my next door neighbor, and some went to the pros.

It is no accident Mike Dunleavy "got to" Cousins. Dunleavy played for Duke and Coach K if memory serves, who comes from Army and is a disciple of Bobby Knight. Those guys practically reinvented modern mental warfare in NCAA basketball.

Dennis Rodman is the kind of guy that could get Cousins ejected almost any night of the week. The only reason teams don't geek on him more, it is not necessary most of the time. Put Cousins in the playoffs somewhere and guys will bang him, and talk about his sisters, and Alabama and pee him off in ways no one has seen yet. That doesn't mean I want to trade him, because he will get better. The Kings probably can't get that much for a player that leads the league in technicals and tosses or is close to it.

Before any of you pick up with the stupid, troll, bull****, no credibility arguements, realize that some people grew up learning most of their life lessons on cracked asphalt with rims with no nets playing for money, pride, self-respect and their race. Basketball matters to me and it always will.

 

[Dime Dropper]

None of what you just said refuted any part of Splitter not being the anchor. It's really weird how obsessed you are with players that can block shots, but are terrible defensively. I award you no points... and may god have mercy on your soul.

Hang on a second, I just want this to be crystal clear. Are you saying that Duncan doesn't anchor the Spurs defense, and that Splitter does? Are you actually typing these words? I'm pretty speechless that anyone could type them, let alone genuinely believe them. It's one of the more bizarre arguments I've ever heard on this forum, and that's saying something.

For the record, I don't dislike Splitter. But it's laughable that anyone can think that Duncan, arguably the best PF of all time and a member of the NBA all-defense team every year he's been in the league bar 1, whose having his best year in recent years, ISN'T the defensive anchor of the Spurs. Unbelievable.

 

[VF21]

If my argument has no credibility, how did we get to 15 pages so fast?

Maybe because approximately 85% of the posts disagree with you and at least 10% are about something tangentially related to the topic.

A lot of people on this forum know very little about the mental warfare aspects of basketball. As I mentioned before, I grew up playing street ball around Washington DC for money, usually white guys against black guys. I played under-sized center in a high school league that sent many players to the ACC including my next door neighbor, and some went to the pros.

Ohhhhhh, color me so freaking impressed. You obviously know so much more about basketball than the rest of us mere mortals. Thank you, oh wise one, for honoring us with your words from on high. You remind me of a poster from years ago (STEVENSON) who constantly pontificated about his vast knowledge and experience. He didn't know jack squat either.

It is no accident Mike Dunleavy "got to" Cousins. Dunleavy played for Duke and Coach K if memory serves, who comes from Army and is a disciple of Bobby Knight. Those guys practically reinvented modern mental warfare in NCAA basketball.

Dennis Rodman is the kind of guy that could get Cousins ejected almost any night of the week. The only reason teams don't geek on him more, it is not necessary most of the time. Put Cousins in the playoffs somewhere and guys will bang him, and talk about his sisters, and Alabama and pee him off in ways no one has seen yet. That doesn't mean I want to trade him, because he will get better. The Kings probably can't get that much for a player that leads the league in technicals and tosses or is close to it.

Before any of you pick up with the stupid, troll, bull****, no credibility arguements, realize that some people grew up learning most of their life lessons on cracked asphalt with rims with no nets playing for money, pride, self-respect and their race. Basketball matters to me and it always will.

That and a couple of dollars might get you a cup of coffee at the concession stand but if you're looking for respect for your opinions, you're going to need to work a lot harder. And about your OP? Calling Cousins a punk was a punk move. You set the tone for this whole scenario so you can't really cry about it when it blows up in your face.

 

[Dime Dropper]

If my argument has no credibility, how did we get to 15 pages so fast?

A lot of people on this forum know very little about the mental warfare aspects of basketball. As I mentioned before, I grew up playing street ball around Washington DC for money, usually white guys against black guys. I played under-sized center in a high school league that sent many players to the ACC including my next door neighbor, and some went to the pros.

It is no accident Mike Dunleavy "got to" Cousins. Dunleavy played for Duke and Coach K if memory serves, who comes from Army and is a disciple of Bobby Knight. Those guys practically reinvented modern mental warfare in NCAA basketball.

Dennis Rodman is the kind of guy that could get Cousins ejected almost any night of the week. The only reason teams don't geek on him more, it is not necessary most of the time. Put Cousins in the playoffs somewhere and guys will bang him, and talk about his sisters, and Alabama and pee him off in ways no one has seen yet. That doesn't mean I want to trade him, because he will get better. The Kings probably can't get that much for a player that leads the league in technicals and tosses or is close to it.

Before any of you pick up with the stupid, troll, bull****, no credibility arguements, realize that some people grew up learning most of their life lessons on cracked asphalt with rims with no nets playing for money, pride, self-respect and their race. Basketball matters to me and it always will.

Playing for your race? Are you serious? Your argument is still idiotic whether you like it or not, and the end of your post destroyed ANY credibility you MIGHT have previously had.

 

[Kingsguy881]

If my argument has no credibility, how did we get to 15 pages so fast?

A lot of people on this forum know very little about the mental warfare aspects of basketball. As I mentioned before, I grew up playing street ball around Washington DC for money, usually white guys against black guys. I played under-sized center in a high school league that sent many players to the ACC including my next door neighbor, and some went to the pros.

It is no accident Mike Dunleavy "got to" Cousins. Dunleavy played for Duke and Coach K if memory serves, who comes from Army and is a disciple of Bobby Knight. Those guys practically reinvented modern mental warfare in NCAA basketball.

Dennis Rodman is the kind of guy that could get Cousins ejected almost any night of the week. The only reason teams don't geek on him more, it is not necessary most of the time. Put Cousins in the playoffs somewhere and guys will bang him, and talk about his sisters, and Alabama and pee him off in ways no one has seen yet. That doesn't mean I want to trade him, because he will get better. The Kings probably can't get that much for a player that leads the league in technicals and tosses or is close to it.

Before any of you pick up with the stupid, troll, bull****, no credibility arguements, realize that some people grew up learning most of their life lessons on cracked asphalt with rims with no nets playing for money, pride, self-respect and their race. Basketball matters to me and it always will.

I played for my race too...the human race. Smh, ***** smoker.

 

[mac]

If my argument has no credibility, how did we get to 15 pages so fast?

A lot of people on this forum know very little about the mental warfare aspects of basketball. As I mentioned before, I grew up playing street ball around Washington DC for money, usually white guys against black guys. I played under-sized center in a high school league that sent many players to the ACC including my next door neighbor, and some went to the pros.

It is no accident Mike Dunleavy "got to" Cousins. Dunleavy played for Duke and Coach K if memory serves, who comes from Army and is a disciple of Bobby Knight. Those guys practically reinvented modern mental warfare in NCAA basketball.

Dennis Rodman is the kind of guy that could get Cousins ejected almost any night of the week. The only reason teams don't geek on him more, it is not necessary most of the time. Put Cousins in the playoffs somewhere and guys will bang him, and talk about his sisters, and Alabama and pee him off in ways no one has seen yet. That doesn't mean I want to trade him, because he will get better. The Kings probably can't get that much for a player that leads the league in technicals and tosses or is close to it.

Before any of you pick up with the stupid, troll, bull****, no credibility arguements, realize that some people grew up learning most of their life lessons on cracked asphalt with rims with no nets playing for money, pride, self-respect and their race. Basketball matters to me and it always will.

I apologise for getting personal, but this right here is proof of a person with low IQ.

 

[VF21]

I'm making an executive decision because, in my view, this thread has nowhere good left to go at this point.