I know a lot of you dislike the guy, but he is going through a lot right now with injuries and finding out his daughter has cancer again. The guy said he reads internet boards to find out what fans think, and I know some of you want him gone-but IMO he deserves to be left alone right now. Yeah I'm a Ron Artest fan but also as a person I think it would be nice if people would stop saying "I HATE RON ARTEST FOR THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER" so much. The guy is going through a lot of stuff right now, he is not a bad guy, and he deserves to be able to focus on the most important things. Maybe some of you will say "it should be easy for him not to focus on the public's opinion" but for some people they just care what other people think and can't help it. I am just saying with as much as he's gone through this year and is still going through, the guy deserves a freaking break.
Can we please leave Ron Artest alone right now?
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Ailene Voison says the same thing.
Ron if you do read this board, I feel for you and you really should take the rest of the season off. The team isn't playing for anything and at this point I think there are bigger things to worry about in your life than us fans, but I suppose its all on your discretion. Thanks for a decent season though.
Ron if you do read this board, I feel for you and you really should take the rest of the season off. The team isn't playing for anything and at this point I think there are bigger things to worry about in your life than us fans, but I suppose its all on your discretion. Thanks for a decent season though.
Apparently Ron will be on Sportsline this afternoon (according to The Rise Guys). Word is Ron and Grant had a 45-minute "talk" about Grant's comments about Artest and not playing on a game-by-game basis and not letting the team know until the last minute. Ron agreed to come on the show to discuss it.
OK, Ron, If your listening. First of all I wish you and your daughter all the best, and hope and pray for her recovery. Secondly, please don't read too much into what is said on this or any other forum. Were talking about fans here. Fans will worship you on the great altar of basketball one day and burn you at the witch stake the next.
What we think of you doesn't matter. Its what you think of you that matters. I had a friend, now dead, that said we all ride on the bus of life. Do you want to be the driver or the passenger? When you let other people's opinions decide what you do, you become a passenger. Do what you think is best for you, and for your daughter, and for gods sake, don't pay any attention to emotional ramblings of the people on this forum. God Bless....
What we think of you doesn't matter. Its what you think of you that matters. I had a friend, now dead, that said we all ride on the bus of life. Do you want to be the driver or the passenger? When you let other people's opinions decide what you do, you become a passenger. Do what you think is best for you, and for your daughter, and for gods sake, don't pay any attention to emotional ramblings of the people on this forum. God Bless....
It's not like people are running up to him and calling him a douchebag or something. We're writing on a message board and we shouldn't have to censor our opinions for his sake, if he doesn't like what we have to say then he can stop reading. He has the same choice as we all do, if you don't like what others have to say you can choose to ignore them.
People have every right in the world to be critical about Ron Artest, the NBA player and Sacramento King. It's not our fault his private and public life are intertwined to the point where it's nearly impossible to separate one from the other.
Having said that, I wish Ron and his family nothing but the best. His little daughter is in my prayers. No parent should have to stand by and watch as their beloved child goes through what his daughter is going through.
Having said that, I wish Ron and his family nothing but the best. His little daughter is in my prayers. No parent should have to stand by and watch as their beloved child goes through what his daughter is going through.
Nope. No way.
KT isn't even in the picture at the moment. He's done nothing to affect the team, unless you want to continue to blame him for his contract. He's not taking minutes from the younger players, he's not vacillating on whether or not he'll opt out of his contract, he's not even mentioned in most discussions about the future direction of the Kings.
Ron Artest IS a major topic of discussion. Just like Peja and Webber before him. And most of us are trying to talk about his impact on our Kings. To deny the relevance would be silly, to say the least.
Sports message boards exist to talk about players. When it's a polarizing figure like Ron Artest, the discussions are many and varied - and oft-times can get pretty heated. I think, for the most part, the two sides of the coin have done a remarkable job in finding ways to discuss/argue their various opinions without more direct confrontation and conflict.
KT isn't even in the picture at the moment. He's done nothing to affect the team, unless you want to continue to blame him for his contract. He's not taking minutes from the younger players, he's not vacillating on whether or not he'll opt out of his contract, he's not even mentioned in most discussions about the future direction of the Kings.
Ron Artest IS a major topic of discussion. Just like Peja and Webber before him. And most of us are trying to talk about his impact on our Kings. To deny the relevance would be silly, to say the least.
Sports message boards exist to talk about players. When it's a polarizing figure like Ron Artest, the discussions are many and varied - and oft-times can get pretty heated. I think, for the most part, the two sides of the coin have done a remarkable job in finding ways to discuss/argue their various opinions without more direct confrontation and conflict.
Indeed...I think that's all that needs to be said right now.
EXACTLY. Yeah everyone's saying "well he's still open to criticism, we can still express our opinions, etc". Yeah I'm not denying you that. I am just saying can people just give the guy a break for a while? Everyone is talking about how disruptive he is and things such as that. But I'll give the guy a break for being stressed out considering his daughter has battled cancer twice this year, he's dealt with surgery, and various injuries. It's not like he's gone Pacman Jones on anyone. Everyone says he has so much drama, he's such a bad guy, but it's not like he's out there makin it rain at strip clubs at 3 AM in the morning. Sure he shoots a little too much sometimes, but so does every good player. I would just like to see him get a break considering all the diffiicult situations he's gone through this year when NONE OF THEM were his fault.
Indeed...I think that's all that needs to be said right now.
Still doesn't mean I'd care to have him on the team next year....I don't hate the man or the player by any means, I just think he is disruptive to the team and the organization. And he's been that for just about every team he's been on.
I really don't see what people's opinions about his play on the court and his propensity to cause trouble off the court really has to do with his daughter having cancer. One shouldn't have anything to do with the other, why should people change or censor their opinions for someone who probably doesn't give a rats *** what they have to think (and shouldn't)? If he doesn't like what we have to say he can stop reading message boards then.
I can feel sympathetic about his daughter being sick, but I don't have to be sympathetic of him being all butt hurt about people not wanting him on the kings (not implying he does in fact feel that way, but rather some are suggesting this). He doesn't have to subject himself to internet message boards or sports talk shows.
I haven't been saying much of anything about Artest as of late since I really don't see the point in trying anymore. This may inspire me to criticize the team keeping him here even more just to make a point that people shouldn't be silenced because of sad, but ultimately unrelated events.
I can feel sympathetic about his daughter being sick, but I don't have to be sympathetic of him being all butt hurt about people not wanting him on the kings (not implying he does in fact feel that way, but rather some are suggesting this). He doesn't have to subject himself to internet message boards or sports talk shows.
I haven't been saying much of anything about Artest as of late since I really don't see the point in trying anymore. This may inspire me to criticize the team keeping him here even more just to make a point that people shouldn't be silenced because of sad, but ultimately unrelated events.
If you do read this Ron I hope your daughter is OK..
Now for the playing part... The team plays so much better when you don't try to take things over. Have more trust in your teammates. If you wouldn't hold the ball so much, got others involved, and not worry about how much your score things would be different. You can be a top Sf in the league and only score 15 a game. You are the most all around talented member of this team, and you can make everyone around you better if you just play the "team game".
Now for the playing part... The team plays so much better when you don't try to take things over. Have more trust in your teammates. If you wouldn't hold the ball so much, got others involved, and not worry about how much your score things would be different. You can be a top Sf in the league and only score 15 a game. You are the most all around talented member of this team, and you can make everyone around you better if you just play the "team game".
So John Salmons picks and chooses what games he want to play in -- basically if he starts, he plays. If he is forced to come off the bench, he pouts. He is rightly ragged on for being a, well A.I. always called him a ***** (cat) Kenny Thomas did the saem thign, he became public enemy #1.
Ron picks and chooses what games he wants to play in as well -- he only plays if the opponent gets him excited, otherwise he takes his $100,000 per game to sit on the bench in street clothes yapping like an idiot for 2 hours. And this makes him a "Tru Warior"??
Ron picks and chooses what games he wants to play in as well -- he only plays if the opponent gets him excited, otherwise he takes his $100,000 per game to sit on the bench in street clothes yapping like an idiot for 2 hours. And this makes him a "Tru Warior"??
I think the Kings truly messed up by not trading Artest (to a contender) when they had an opportunity. One he's clearly gone his own way since the trade deadline and devalued his future trade potential. And yes, I think he's turning it off and on -- if he was playing with AI in Denver he would have played through his sprained thumb. But he clearly wanted to be traded to a better team and was disappointed when he wasn't.
Trading him would have been good for us and good for him. Artest is such a good player that when he decides to play he clearly drags our team from the Lottery to the clearly-mediocre level. There is no way the Kings can truly rebuild with a player of Ron's calibre on it (ie we will never be bad enough to draft that one player to build a team around).
Trading him would have been good for us and good for him. Artest is such a good player that when he decides to play he clearly drags our team from the Lottery to the clearly-mediocre level. There is no way the Kings can truly rebuild with a player of Ron's calibre on it (ie we will never be bad enough to draft that one player to build a team around).