Bonzi's comment about Peja's injury.

[DeAtHrOw]

Damnit man, where are your priorities???

LOL

I am good now, everything's been done

 

[bozzwell]

Here's the thread with the story:

http://kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8909

Nothing wrong with that (what Bonzi did/said). Obviously, Bonzi saved the heavy stuff for the locker room and brought out the "mild" digs in the interview. The real question is: If Pedja doesn't play because of sprained pinky, but gets into it with obviously much tougher teammate, like Bonzi, and if were (for the sake of argument) clock Bonzi, what does that mean? Pedja is soft because he can't play through pain, or Pedja is hard because he took it to Bonz?

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

 

[starks]

Perhaps -- but note the other story this morning about there actually being a shouting match or some such. Maybe a mountain out of good sized foothill.

BTW, I was not referring to the bench. When I say we can make up for someboyd being out, this is what I mean: Right now Bibby and Brad are both about 2ppg below where they were last year, Reef is 5 below his career average, and Bonzi is 4 belwo where he was last time he was a starter. 2+2+4+5 = 13pts right there without even asking anybody to go above and beyond what we already KNOW they can do. That leaves a grand total of 8.8pts for whoever is filling in for Peja to make up. Imminently doable.

Are we more potent with Peja? Sure. But we have MORE than enough offensive personnel to make up those points 8 nights in 10, and certainly over any short term injury. And same goes if the man going down was Reef (in fact Thomas could easily equal his numbers), Bonzi (although his baording would be badly missed) etc.. We are overstocked with offensive personnel performing WELL below normal levels to make room for others. If those others go down, we've got all sorts of players to step up. And that's before we even get to eh bench where we have guys wanting to start, Corliss who is a double figure scorer with minutes etc.

So there is no issue that Peja might just walk away (in the end of season), right? Offensively we will be fine….defensively he is below average anyway….sing new deal with “tough-big mouth warrior” and let him talk ( and play occasionally)….Btw. I think Bonzi should save his comment for locker-room…

 

[Kings113]

Read the other thread with the Sacbee article.

 

[Padrino]

bonzi wells is my favorite

 

[king-me]

The real question is: If Pedja doesn't play because of sprained pinky, but gets into it with obviously much tougher teammate, like Bonzi, and if were (for the sake of argument) clock Bonzi, what does that mean? Pedja is soft because he can't play through pain, or Pedja is hard because he took it to Bonz?

peja taking it to bonzi...c'mon man, get off it. peja has never taken it to anyone on the basketball court...why would he off of it? the guy does not respond well to criticism or agressiveness. that is exactly what is wrong with our team...we're too soft. until we shed this skin and prove to be otherwise, we're still going to carry that label. the players share only some of the blame. petrie needs to bring in some tough hard-nosed players that play defense and the coach has to reinforce this in practice and on the court. that's why adelman gets so much flack, because he allows poor defense without holding his players more accountable.

 

[bozzwell]

peja taking it to bonzi...c'mon man, get off it. peja has never taken it to anyone on the basketball court...why would he off of it? the guy does not respond well to criticism or agressiveness. that is exactly what is wrong with our team...we're too soft. until we shed this skin and prove to be otherwise, we're still going to carry that label. the players share only some of the blame. petrie needs to bring in some tough hard-nosed players that play defense and the coach has to reinforce this in practice and on the court. that's why adelman gets so much flack, because he allows poor defense without holding his players more accountable.

Have you notice the smily and "if" in my post? And that whoosh that you heard was the joke flying over yourr head.

 

[yanon]

Bonzi provides something that other Kings don't have--toughness.

Peja and Bonzi will both be free agents at the end of this season. Assuming the Maloofs would only give out one huge contract, which player would you keep if you're the GM?

 

[Fillmoe]

bonzi brings his all every night!

 

[frankie]

Unfortunately losing the respect of your teammates is not "much ado about nothing". Much of the rest of the league considers him a wuss, its one thing. Your own teammates...well, not the first time Peja's teammates have reached that conclusion and it creates the basis for a schism.

IMO, on the court Peja's sitting out with this "injury" has cost the Kings exactly zero games so far -- playing with a bad finger (and worrying about it) I doubt he was going to be much help against the Spurs, and we got the win tonight.

And so while I think Peja is a complete wuss and will argue that fact exhuastively against the legion of excusoids and enablers out there, I don't think him being a wuss has really hurt us here. I actually get far more annoyed with the people constantly trying to excuse it than I am concerned with Peja sitting out itself. It hasn't hurt us yet, and frankly I think people are a bit off when they think its likely too anytime soon. The way our team is constructed I think we can lose ANY of our starting 5 and the others can smoothly step on over, up their own roles, and compensate. Everybody is being underutilized with the possible exception of Peja, and so an injury actually represents an opportunity for the other players to step forward and get their shots and make the larger contributions they have shown themselves capable of over their careers. I am considerably more concerned about locker room stuff than I am about the product on the floor itself.

OK we got it. He got it too. Everyone does. He's a wuss. So what now? Can that be changed somehow by calling him wuss 5 times a day on some stupid kingsfans.com or even worse his teammate calling him in a national media? I garantee you not. He's gonna be playing like that his entire career and teams will still want him. And you know what? That wuss is making more money in a month than you make in a lifetime. You are pathetic, sitting your sorry *** in front of computer 24/7 and calling HIM a wuss. Isn't that funny, that the guy you call wuss 5 times a day has had more succesfull career in the last 6 years than you wil ever have for the rest of your miserable life. You loser!

 

[Bricklayer]

OK we got it. He got it too. Everyone does. He's a wuss. So what now? Can that be changed somehow by calling him wuss 5 times a day on some stupid kingsfans.com or even worse his teammate calling him in a national media? I garantee you not. He's gonna be playing like that his entire career and teams will still want him. And you know what? That wuss is making more money in a month than you make in a lifetime. You are pathetic, sitting your sorry *** in front of computer 24/7 and calling HIM a wuss. Isn't that funny, that the guy you call wuss 5 times a day has had more succesfull career in the last 6 years than you wil ever have for the rest of your miserable life. You loser!

Tsk tsk Frankie, that did not even sting. I should by all rights delete this, and certainly would if it were directed at anybody else. But I'm going to leave it up as a perfect example of how NOT to bother me in the least, let alone to get yourself banned. Kind of sad really.

And just so you will know, I consider my career to have been rather vastly more successful than any professional ball-bouncers'. They are just the court jesters for the people doing real work that actually matters. I play at Peja's career for entertainment, Peja wouldn't even know where to begin in mine.

 

[BMiller52]

OK we got it. He got it too. Everyone does. He's a wuss. So what now? Can that be changed somehow by calling him wuss 5 times a day on some stupid kingsfans.com or even worse his teammate calling him in a national media? I garantee you not. He's gonna be playing like that his entire career and teams will still want him. And you know what? That wuss is making more money in a month than you make in a lifetime. You are pathetic, sitting your sorry *** in front of computer 24/7 and calling HIM a wuss. Isn't that funny, that the guy you call wuss 5 times a day has had more succesfull career in the last 6 years than you wil ever have for the rest of your miserable life. You loser!

Whoa man, you need anger management classes or somethin? JK

 

[BigWaxer]

LOL Frankie had to much sauce with his turkey today... As a smart A I almost want to take his quote as a signature. I find humor in a sick way in that post. Made me crack up.

 

[Kings113]

Peja wouldn't even know where to begin in mine.

Different.

 

[BigWaxer]

And while I am waiting for our turkey to be cooked and watchn my Cowboys in a good game.

A word of advice Frankie.... Brick is a very literate and IMO is one of the most BBALL knowledgable persons on this site. In fact I feel he should be creating articles for the BEE not some of the clowns they have now. I probably disagree with about 20% of what he says but if I do I make my case... and when I do and he responds I never feel he is disrespecting me. In fact most cases he changes my opinion... I don't call him names nor would I ever think he would do that to me. Feel lucky your still around and that VF the "hammer" hasn't read this thread yet.

 

[yanon]

Is frankie a relative of Peja?

 

[vj9999]

frankie says relax

 

[Zyphen]

Frankie is just angry at message boards that criticize millionaires in general. Bill Gates > Mother Teresa.

Also, it's a waste of breath if nothing said actually affects real life. So I guess he just hates message boards. Even though he's posting on one.

 

[forza kings]

I don't necessarily disagree with Frankie. Why is it okay to call a Kings player wuss, but not okay to call a cyber personality (we're all that here) loser? Obviously, as a Kings fan, he cares about Peja more than this Bricklayer guy.

 

[6th]

I don't necessarily disagree with Frankie. Why is it okay to call a Kings player wuss, but not okay to call a cyber personality (we're all that here) loser? Obviously, as a Kings fan, he cares about Peja more than this Bricklayer guy.

forza kings, before you call out someone like "this Bricklayer guy" you should know what the heck you are talking about.

And, as far as calling a cyber personality a loser, it is expressly against the rules here at KingsFans.com, to name call any other member. It doesn't matter what you think of a person's views, you cannot attack the member......period!!

 

[Gargamel]

Didn't Bonzi make some kind of racial comment about the Mavs a couple years ago? Soft whiteboy type of statement? Maybe it was a dig against Peja.

 

[piksi]

Didn't Bonzi make some kind of racial comment about the Mavs a couple years ago? Soft whiteboy type of statement? Maybe it was a dig against Peja.

Well, Bonzi did not earn his reputation for nothing.

 

[forza kings]

forza kings, before you call out someone like "this Bricklayer guy" you should know what the heck you are talking about.

And, as far as calling a cyber personality a loser, it is expressly against the rules here at KingsFans.com, to name call any other member. It doesn't matter what you think of a person's views, you cannot attack the member......period!!

shouldn't it be against the rules to call a KINGS player wuss? Honestly it doesn't bother me if Frankie or anybody calls somebody that I know only by a nickname loser if that person is calling a player from my team a wuss.

 

[king-me]

Have you notice the smily and "if" in my post? And that whoosh that you heard was the joke flying over yourr head.

i did notice the "if" in your post and my comment still stands. you should get those silly thoughts out of your head, because there are no if's or maybe's about peja taking it to bonzi...it ain't ever gonna happen! next time read the post carefully instead of responding stupidly...since even if i hadn't seen the "if" in your post, it still has nothing to do with my comment.

 

[6th]

shouldn't it be against the rules to call a KINGS player wuss? Honestly it doesn't bother me if Frankie or anybody calls somebody that I know only by a nickname loser if that person is calling a player from my team a wuss.

We all go by a cyber nickname, but there are real people behind the nicknames. One of the reasons that KingsFans.com is so popular (besides the # of knowledgeable fans) is that we do not allow smack talking one another or name calling one another. It makes it a much friendlier place and we like it that way.

 

[vj9999]

I defend Peja all the time. I would have been ofended by Bonzi'sstatement if it was made in a selfish manner. I think what he did was right and with in reason. He kind of made a team statement for Peja to "shut up and play" (© VF21) and the team should come before any player (Peja included).

 

[burekijogurt]

I think employees should be forced to work sick or injured if they are at all capable. There should be some kind of corrective action that the employers are allowed to take (lowering salary for example) if the employee wusses out like Peja did. In addition, his coworkers and customers should remind such a person that his/her dedication is not up to par, and that he/she should probably be looking for another job. Lots of people work injured or sick and there is no reason why someone who wusses out should be let off easy. Either you are willing to put your health on the line like everyone else, or don't bother to work at all.

 

[BMiller52]

I think employees should be forced to work sick or injured if they are at all capable. There should be some kind of corrective action that the employers are allowed to take (lowering salary for example) if the employee wusses out like Peja did. In addition, his coworkers and customers should remind such a person that his/her dedication is not up to par, and that he/she should probably be looking for another job. Lots of people work injured or sick and there is no reason why someone who wusses out should be let off easy. Either you are willing to put your health on the line like everyone else, or don't bother to work at all.

You gotta be kidding me. EVERYBODY needs some time off, people get sick, etc. Their kids get sick, their children have stuff to attend, etc. What fun would it be to hang out with somebody's coworkers if they got all rude and jumpy on them getting sick for a day? Basketball is DIFFERENT than regular jobs, and as a shooter Peja's finger is important. W/O your finger on your shooting hand as a sharpshooter you are more or less useless, which is Peja's case. Don't see why everyone is trippin over peja's injury, it got our young guys some time and could hopefully get em going.

 

[bozzwell]

i did notice the "if" in your post and my comment still stands. you should get those silly thoughts out of your head, because there are no if's or maybe's about peja taking it to bonzi...it ain't ever gonna happen! next time read the post carefully instead of responding stupidly...since even if i hadn't seen the "if" in your post, it still has nothing to do with my comment.

Mr. Thought Police Officer. I _still_ find idea of Pedja taking it to Bonzi and resulting conundrum to be hilarious.

Don't look up, that wasn not a sonic boom.

 

[6th]

Mr. Thought Police Officer. I _still_ find idea of Pedja taking it to Bonzi and resulting conundrum to be hilarious.

Don't look up, that wasn not a sonic boom.

You are crackin me up, bozz.