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AleksandarN

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Bonzi's salary?

I am going to start a topic on what people think we should offer Bonzi next year and what type of money will he command on open market?

Me I would offer him a 4 year 30 million contract. I think he is worth that kind of money. I just hope that woulkd be enough to keep him here but who knows what kind crazy offer he will get from another team.
 
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Well, he's making $8 million this season. I'm not saying that's his worth, but his agent will no doubt use that as a starting point for his next contract.

That is really my ONLY concern with Bonzi Wells. His outside shot concerns me a little, but he does so many other things to make up for that. But I AM worried about what he'll command this offseason. Fortunately I don't see too many teams persuing him heavily.
 
He's at $8M this year, and max salary for him is going to be $14.4M... a 25% increase from his current salary will put him at $10M...

I wouldn't be surprised if someone will offer him $10M or more (assuming he continues his current level of play & stays out of trouble). So I'd put him at 4 years / $45 million.
 
funkykingston said:
Well, he's making $8 million this season. I'm not saying that's his worth, but his agent will no doubt use that as a starting point for his next contract.

That is really my ONLY concern with Bonzi Wells. His outside shot concerns me a little, but he does so many other things to make up for that. But I AM worried about what he'll command this offseason. Fortunately I don't see too many teams persuing him heavily.

Problem is that if he keeps on playing like he has been then there will be plenty. If so many teams want Ron Artest, I can see them throwing some big bucks at Bonzi. If they let this guy walk, I will stop watching the Kings until they get a new GM.
 
Think his bad history will hold his value down and keep teams from offering him big big $$ to become a core guy. Hoping we can resign him for about what he earns now, about $8 mil a year.
 
I'm with brick...hopefully we can get him for 8 mil a year. I love how hes playing, and would offer him alot more if i knew he was consistent at that pace. - But im questioning whether he can keep up the rate hes at.
 
I can't help but feel that

a) Bonzi is on his best behaviour because he is in his contract year and
b) He is playing this well because its his contract year.

Something tells me that next season he want be as good as he has been this year.
 
Čarolija said:
I can't help but feel that

a) Bonzi is on his best behaviour because he is in his contract year and
b) He is playing this well because its his contract year.

Something tells me that next season he want be as good as he has been this year.

Maybe not, but he has always been a very good player. If not a star player. He was a very good player in Portland and integral to their success. I think his rebounding numbers are a little inflated, although he has always been a good rebounder for a gaurd. but that may have something to do with the other players he's playing with. And one thing I know is that he's going to bring it each and every game, contract year or not.
 
People have this image somehow of Bonzi as some overacheiving scrub. Hardly. Back before his attitude overwhlemed his talent, he was considered one of the best young emerging guards in the league, and a potential All-Star. The only thing that is a bit inflated is his rebounding, and even there Bonzi has long been one of, if not the, best rebounding OGs in the league. He's getting 7.6, but 6, or even 6.5 would not have been a surprise.

His numbers from his last two years as a starter, and his numbers now match up quite well. This is who and what he is given minutes:

01-02 31.7min 17.0pts (.469 FG% .384 3pt% .741 FT%) 6.0reb 2.8ast 1.5stl 0.3blk 2.6TO
02-03 31.9min 15.2pts (.441 FG% .292 3pt% .722 FT%) 5.3reb 3.3ast 1.6stl 0.2blk 2.9TO
05-06 34.3min 15.1pts (.476 FG% .227 3pt% .670 FT%) 7.6reb 3.2ast 1.8stl 0.5blk 2.6TO


The attitude? Who knows. Could be minding his Ps and Qs for the contract. That's possible I suppose, although I really haven;t seen any hint of him wanting to go nutso and then holding himself back. Seems legit so far.
 
Čarolija said:
I can't help but feel that

a) Bonzi is on his best behaviour because he is in his contract year and
b) He is playing this well because its his contract year.

Something tells me that next season he want be as good as he has been this year.
or maybe he has realy changed and is a good person. i agree he has done a lot of stupid things in the past but i think he has really matured and has become a better person. i know i would rather pay him then peja thats for sure because he plays hard every single night. im not bashing peja im just saying i can tell peja doesnt wanna be here. and its been like that ever since vlade left.
 
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I love Bonzi and all but 10 mill is TOO MUCH. 4 years starting at 8 mill for a 30 year old guy in his prime who relies on his athleticism? No.
 
BMiller52 said:
I love Bonzi and all but 10 mill is TOO MUCH. 4 years starting at 8 mill for a 30 year old guy in his prime who relies on his athleticism? No.

Relies on his athleticism? Not sure about that -- think Bonzi only looks atheltic in comparison tro our "core" guys who might be bad athletes playing at the Y. You can bang and scrap a lot longer than you can run and jump.
 
I do not think we should offer him more than 8 million a year but the good thing about offering him the fourth year is that it should make up for the difference. I know I do not want to offer him 5 years or more though. It also no guarantee that he will resign with us. He want to take the MLE for a chance at a championship. If say Miami or even Detroit offered him the MLE or any team that has a better shot at winning it all, he might be temped to take less money.
 
thats messed up that a mediocre sg makes 8 million dollars a year and maybe 3 or 4 players in the nfl make more, them being Vick, MAnning, and I think Carson Palmer now. I don't think its fair, yeah the salary cap thing is different but nfl players risk their lives every time they take the field and basketball players don't. That and i think more people watch football, but i don't really have proof for any of my arguments at all, so just ignore this post.
 
Yeah but what if KMart and Garcia really start to show something? Then if we resign Bonzi to a big deal they're just trade bait or what??? I have no problem with 7 mill or so, but good GM's don't sign players like bonzi to 8-10 mill contracts because if you do then that kills your cap for a couple years... He loves sacramento and all, but there's a chance we might end up having to rebuild and that basically means getting cap room to get free agents and getting draft picks. Thats why I don't think we should offer him more than 7 mill. If he loves it here as much as he supposedly does and we can put together an actual good team, make the playoffs, and make it look like we're a perenial playoff contender/championship contender in the next 3 years then he'll stay. If not and we have to rebuild then we've got martin and garcia anyways who look like 2 pretty promising players and bonzi can go to a winning team where he can get a championship that IMO he deserves.
 
Folks you do NOT build a team arround a guy like Bonzi and untill you know what direction your team is going it is not too wise to go out on a limb financially for roll players.

I love Bonzi and in most line ups h is the kind of guy you really want to see but first things first.
 
HndsmCelt said:
Folks you do NOT build a team arround a guy like Bonzi and untill you know what direction your team is going it is not too wise to go out on a limb financially for roll players.

I love Bonzi and in most line ups h is the kind of guy you really want to see but first things first.
Well said.
 
HndsmCelt said:
Folks you do NOT build a team arround a guy like Bonzi and untill you know what direction your team is going it is not too wise to go out on a limb financially for roll players.

I love Bonzi and in most line ups h is the kind of guy you really want to see but first things first.

If that is the case and he does not fit in then he should be traded instead of letting him walk for free.
 
HndsmCelt said:
Folks you do NOT build a team arround a guy like Bonzi and untill you know what direction your team is going it is not too wise to go out on a limb financially for roll players.

I love Bonzi and in most line ups h is the kind of guy you really want to see but first things first.

Bonzi Wells could be the starting off guard on a title team. You can mark down the date I just said that. That does not mean that he is WHY your team won the title. But it does mean that he has the traits that championship level players often do. Resigning him to an $8mil a year contract is no more than a recognition that he can be your 3rd or 4th highest paid player and you could have your shot...assuming you have somehow managed to acquire the right 2 or 3 guys ahead of him in the salary scale. If he's not nuts, he's worth every penny in the NBA's particular little financial world.

On the other hand if Bonzi is your best player -- effectively our position this year -- you can still be quite bad. With his toughness, rebounding, hustle, he could be a great support player/#3 scorer type for a top team, but he can't be "the man" unless you are a lottery club (which we are at the moment). Hence breaking that $10 mil a year barrier gets real dicey.
 
I hear ya all. I never said don't sign him, just that you don't want to break the bank for him at this point. More to the point I said there are BIGER things to worry about for the Kings right now.
 
Anything more than 8MM for Bonzi is probably too much.

I watched in horror as Portland signed away their life to Miles and Randolph. Both of them got contracts based on how they played during the contract year and have never replicated that type of production. I would hate for the Kings to get deluded into thinking they need to overpay for Bonzi and give him 10-12MM.

My guess is that it won't matter. I think Bonzi is going to move on regardless.

If he can prove he's capable of being a player and not a malcontent, he can write his ticket elsewhere. Somewhere that can guarantee wins. The Kings are about to strip down to full rebuilding mode ... I can't imagine Bonzi WANTING to be a part of that.
 
playmaker0017 said:
Anything more than 8MM for Bonzi is probably too much.

I watched in horror as Portland signed away their life to Miles and Randolph. Both of them got contracts based on how they played during the contract year and have never replicated that type of production. I would hate for the Kings to get deluded into thinking they need to overpay for Bonzi and give him 10-12MM.

My guess is that it won't matter. I think Bonzi is going to move on regardless.

If he can prove he's capable of being a player and not a malcontent, he can write his ticket elsewhere. Somewhere that can guarantee wins. The Kings are about to strip down to full rebuilding mode ... I can't imagine Bonzi WANTING to be a part of that.

Why? He loves the city of sacramento. He gets along with the coaching staff. He gets his shots. The fans love him. Yeah he'll want a title, but oh well. I dunno, I just don't want to overpay him because we have Kevin and Garcia waiting anyways.
 
Bricklayer said:
The attitude? Who knows. Could be minding his Ps and Qs for the contract. That's possible I suppose, although I really haven;t seen any hint of him wanting to go nutso and then holding himself back. Seems legit so far.

that is a something that crossed my mind in the midst of all of the board's trade talks. what if bonzi's been behaving properly because of adelman's professional treatment of him? there were all the articles over the summer about how adelman reached out to him. so the thought that crossed my mind is, if we axe adelman, midseason or after, and we keep bonzi, what if we end up with a coach like fratello who'll stick him in the doghouse??

in china for the rest of vacation. happy holidays everyone! here's to kings 2006!
 
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