Berger: Kings seeking frontcourt help.

[Livinthedream]

Nik was a wasted pick IMO, but I guess I'm resigned about that mistake now. My bigger question, is: who exactly are they targeting? What other GM is going to trade anything if value for our spare parts?


Ps Nik is good guy and he hope he has a good career but I think we picked him too high.

It wasn't even about how high we drafted him. When you have 2 SG who are as young as Ben and Nik, the guy who develops the slowest will eventually get dealt. Many of us talked as early as draft day about either Ben or Nik will get dealt because you don't need both. Can't wait for both to develop. It was just poor strategic pick.
Data points can sometimes blind you to common sense.

 

[Bricklayer]

So... we should have gotten Elfrid Payton?

Poor Nik. His confidence is shot. He lost his girlfriend to some high school chump who got 10,000 retweets to go to prom with her.

What's all this?

 

[steelevt]

There is no waiting or developing in NBA 3.0! What?!? You want to wait til Cousins is healthy Malone? Sorry, can't wait. You want to wait and develop a rookie? Sorry, can't wait. You want to foul right away because Dallas has a 1 pt lead and the ball? Ok maybe there is some waiting in NBA 3.0

 

[VF21]

What's all this?

Some high school boy asked Nik's girlfriend on Twitter if she'd go to prom with him. Taylor and Nik said she would, IF he could get 10K retweets by Saturday morning. He got them in about 3 hours.

 

[Bricklayer]

Some high school boy asked Nik's girlfriend on Twitter if she'd go to prom with him. Taylor and Nik said she would, IF he could get 10K retweets by Saturday morning. He got them in about 3 hours.

Is she famous in some way he'd know her? Friend of the family? Or creepy little stalker?

 

[Chicken Chaser]

Is she famous in some way he'd know her? Friend of the family? Or creepy little stalker?

Creepy little stalker. Nik's gf is a pretty blonde, but a pretty dumb dumb.

 

[DesertFox]

NIK ROCKS

 

[Glaivenomics]

To be honest, I'm a bit relieved. Not that I want to see Stauskas on the block, but because when my phone got a push update from bleacher report saying "Report:Kings willing to trade..." and it cut off there...With as little faith in the FO as I have right now, I just figured it was Boogie.

 

[swisshh]

Anyone want to talk about how this looks like a sign that somebody up top is feeling pressure? Giving up Stauskas involves swallowing some pride.

 

[CurseOfTheSalmons]

We don't have to trade Stauskas to bring Sammy home.

 

[KingsFanSince85]

The we-want-results-now criticism of rookies is far beyond laughable. So many have made up their mind about Stauskas and are itching to get rid of him all while having the Ben McLemore example sitting right in front of their faces.

Ben looked completely over-matched and lost last season and for the first weeks of this season, too, yet has shown a ton of promise ever since. He's done well enough that most Kings fans no longer want to tar and feather him.

Now we're seeing a potential rinse-repeat situation with Nik Stauskas, yet the over-reactionary fans think they know the end result already. Have some freaking patience!

 

[bajaden]

Creepy little stalker. Nik's gf is a pretty blonde, but a pretty dumb dumb.

Just curious, but prey tell, how do you know what the intelligence of Nik's girlfriend is? Or perhaps you think all blonds are dumb. Or perhaps you just like making fun of people that can't respond to you. Actually, someone might question the intelligence of a person that calls him or herself Chicken Chaser.

 

[ockingsfan]

Boy, wouldn't Jason Terry's $5 million dollar expiring contract look good right now in a potential trade for a big man.

But, we were able to trade away JTerry expiring contract AND 2 second rounders in the preseason for nothing.

But, I guess PDA is thinking 4 steps ahead of everyone else.

 

[ParniValjak]

The rumor is that other teams have called about Stauskas availability, and up to now the Kings have said no. The fact that they're willing to trade him now, might have more to do with the player they have targeted, than how much they love Stauskas potential. It's obvious they've been trying to trade JT, without much success. Adding Stauskas might be the sweetener that gets the deal done. I like Stauskas and would love to watch him develop, but if we can get a good rim protector I'd be OK with trading him.

The only issue I have is that I doubt we are looking for a rim protector. I think its either someone like Faried, or a stretch 4.

The shot blockers that might be available are not exactly worth a great deal. Ibaka or Gibson are not going anywhere.

I just have no trust in the front office wanting anything related to defence.

 

[luckytkp]

The we-want-results-now criticism of rookies is far beyond laughable. So many have made up their mind about Stauskas and are itching to get rid of him all while having the Ben McLemore example sitting right in front of their faces.

Ben looked completely over-matched and lost last season and for the first weeks of this season, too, yet has shown a ton of promise ever since. He's done well enough that most Kings fans no longer want to tar and feather him.

Now we're seeing a potential rinse-repeat situation with Nik Stauskas, yet the over-reactionary fans think they know the end result already. Have some freaking patience!

The problem is we will need to trade either Ben or Nick eventually because there wont be enough minutes for both of them.

 

[KingsFanGER]

The only issue I have is that I doubt we are looking for a rim protector. I think its either someone like Faried, or a stretch 4.

The shot blockers that might be available are not exactly worth a great deal. Ibaka or Gibson are not going anywhere.

I just have no trust in the front office wanting anything related to defence.

But outside of Gibson and Ibaka, which PF would provide the defensive impact, we as fans are looking for and would be a realistic trade target?

 

[sdballer]

Boy, wouldn't Jason Terry's $5 million dollar expiring contract look good right now in a potential trade for a big man.

But, we were able to trade away JTerry expiring contract AND 2 second rounders in the preseason for nothing.

But, I guess PDA is thinking 4 steps ahead of everyone else.

Would have been better off just hanging on to MT's expiring deal. He's already been traded for better value once and it's highly likely he will be again this month.

It's a major reason why I continue to criticize pda's moves. With the exception of the gay package (which still included useful parts), he's gotten really low return on our assets. Reke for Vasquez (no Lopez), IT (for an exception instead of packaging him earlier), MT's soon to be large expiring (basically for nothing but capspace to sign Ramon), nik (tbd but there is reason to be concerned), 2nd rounders tossed away.

More to being a gm than signing extensions.

 

[sdballer]

But outside of Gibson and Ibaka, which PF would provide the defensive impact, we as fans are looking for and would be a realistic trade target?

That's why they need to be extremely careful in how they use the few assets they have left. Don't bring in yet another pf that doesn't meet the need while getting rid of expirings and young players only to now have 3-4 pf that don't fit while lessening those very players value.

 

[jcwkings]

Another blunder by the FO. The pick should have been Payton. Payton could have developed playing under a vet like Collison, then when Collisons contract is up you decide if Payton is your guy to take over. They also could have played together at times for a very quick athletic back court. If Stauskas was your guy you should have traded Ben, brought in a vet SG that Stauskas can learn from. Name me another team that has had two young player at the same position and developed and kept both? Really dumb by the FO, Vivek demanded Stauskas and the Gerbil sat there like an idiot. Then he wants to act like a man with a plan in the Malone firing, guess what? no plan!

 

[Entity]

The only issue I have is that I doubt we are looking for a rim protector. I think its either someone like Faried, or a stretch 4.

The shot blockers that might be available are not exactly worth a great deal. Ibaka or Gibson are not going anywhere.

I just have no trust in the front office wanting anything related to defence.

boris diaw

 

[Hoovtrain]

Some high school boy asked Nik's girlfriend on Twitter if she'd go to prom with him. Taylor and Nik said she would, IF he could get 10K retweets by Saturday morning. He got them in about 3 hours.

So Nik is literally a pimp.

 

[Larry David]

kings are making a move for mason plumlee & deron williams

I think the odds of this trade fall sharply once the Nets dump Lopez in the next 1-10 days. At which point Plumlee becomes their full time center. Plumlee is playing like a cheap young asset lately. The Nets need to clear cap space to sign players down the road, but they can't win games if they don't have a center. And they don't have any incentive to bottom out, as they don't control any of their own picks for the next 4 years.

Getting out from under the Williams contract would be huge for the Nets... but dropping those two guys for Stauskas and expiring? I'm sure the Dannys in Boston and Atlanta hope they make that move, but I can't see it.

 

[Padrino]

Anyone want to talk about how this looks like a sign that somebody up top is feeling pressure? Giving up Stauskas involves swallowing some pride.

indeed. the kings' ownership/FO ditched a formula that was beginning to achieve success in favor of a particular style of play, and because they faced tremendous backlash from the fanbase, local media, and national media, they're now in the position of having to justify their decision with on-court results. i imagine that PDA is feeling the heat, and he'll likely make some [more] rash decisions before it's all said and done. of course, i wasn't a big fan of the stauskas pick in the first place; like many, i wanted payton, and i wouldn't necessarily be sad to see nik go in a package deal, as long as the kings could receive something valuable in return. the problem is, i'm rather tired of this new sacramento kings tradition of blowing lottery pick after lottery pick. fredette, robinson, and, if he's traded, stauskas, as well? man... talk about an utter waste of favorable draft positioning. ben mclemore's saving grace is that he was a part of a horrendously weak draft class, otherwise i might be inclined to lump him in there, too...

 

[Albatros]

Looks like OKC will take Lopez for Perkins, which is like offering someone a pack of gum and getting a brand new car in return.

they must be absolutely beyond desperate to get rid of Lopez to take garbage like that back.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

that jusuf nurkic kid is pretty good. if we took him, we'd be like memphis with 2 bruisers down low. nurkic and hit the mid range also. alas we're looking for run n gun pretty ball.

 

[captain bill]

Would have been better off just hanging on to MT's expiring deal. He's already been traded for better value once and it's highly likely he will be again this month.

It's a major reason why I continue to criticize pda's moves. With the exception of the gay package (which still included useful parts), he's gotten really low return on our assets. Reke for Vasquez (no Lopez), IT (for an exception instead of packaging him earlier), MT's soon to be large expiring (basically for nothing but capspace to sign Ramon), nik (tbd but there is reason to be concerned), 2nd rounders tossed away.

More to being a gm than signing extensions.

Agreed. I think his "marquee" moves have all been on point, but he made 3 terrible moves that are really handcuffing us right now:

1- the Landry contract
2- no Lopez
3- not getting an extra first rounder for the 8th pick

HM: mis-handling the MT deal and failing to net anything from his contract

I was unhappy with the IT move at the time but am okay with it now. It's obvious in retrospect that he was a bad locker room presence, and letting him go is what allowed us to give DC the starting spot drama-free.

 

[swisshh]

indeed. the kings' ownership/FO ditched a formula that was beginning to achieve success in favor of a particular style of play, and because they faced tremendous backlash from the fanbase, local media, and national media, they're now in the position of having to justify their decision with on-court results. i imagine that PDA is feeling the heat, and he'll likely make some [more] rash decisions before it's all said and done. of course, i wasn't a big fan of the stauskas pick in the first place; like many, i wanted payton, and i wouldn't necessarily be sad to see nik go in a package deal, as long as the kings could receive something valuable in return. the problem is, i'm rather tired of this new sacramento kings tradition of blowing lottery pick after lottery pick. fredette, robinson, and, if he's traded, stauskas, as well? man... talk about an utter waste of favorable draft positioning. ben mclemore's saving grace is that he was a part of a horrendously weak draft class, otherwise i might be inclined to lump him in there, too...

Yes, I would say it's disturbing and interesting. Disturbing that the team is still parting with high draft picks. Interesting that this ownership is now doing it after putting up a front of confidence.

It feels like a trade storm is coming in the NBA and the Kings will be a part of it.

 

[HndsmCelt]

It the absence of any actual trade rumors, I suspect this leak is more of a trial balloon to see what offers of ANY KIND might be stirred up. To be brutally honest I doubt Nick's contract has much trade value at all, but announcing we are willing to part with it does signal that we are willing to move more than just expiring contracts to bring back the right guy.

 

[Chupacabra]

We better, at this point we HAVE to get that pick.

Not sure if serious. All that we HAVE to do is get rid of PDA and hope Vivek realizes that hes an owner and not a basketball expert.

 

[pdizo916]

Agreed. I think his "marquee" moves have all been on point, but he made 3 terrible moves that are really handcuffing us right now:

1- the Landry contract
2- no Lopez
3- not getting an extra first rounder for the 8th pick

HM: mis-handling the MT deal and failing to net anything from his contract

I was unhappy with the IT move at the time but am okay with it now. It's obvious in retrospect that he was a bad locker room presence, and letting him go is what allowed us to give DC the starting spot drama-free.

Another bad move is trading Quincy Acy. And even though we got back A 3PT SHOOTER, he releases him. Well, Ellington is doing well off the bench for the lakers. (Smh) And we keep trading our 2nd rounders for peanuts..... He's been a pretty bad GM so far.