Artest trade stuff HERE!! (merged)
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"I do think we're getting closer," said Donnie Walsh. "I do think we'll have something in the next week or so." The Warriors, Nuggets, Wolves, Clippers and Lakers remain interested.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38770/20060121/walsh_prepared_to_wait_even_longer_on_trade_doesnt_expect_to_have_to/
I cant believe Kings are showing 0 interest in picking up Artest when we so desperately could use his offense and especially his defense. All we probably need to get rid of is Peja for him. Not like Peja is doing us any good anyway. Peja for Artest now Petrie.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38770/20060121/walsh_prepared_to_wait_even_longer_on_trade_doesnt_expect_to_have_to/
I cant believe Kings are showing 0 interest in picking up Artest when we so desperately could use his offense and especially his defense. All we probably need to get rid of is Peja for him. Not like Peja is doing us any good anyway. Peja for Artest now Petrie.
indeed
walsh has waited this long. there's no way he's about to go into panic mode right now, and trading for peja stojakovic--who is valued much less than artest, despite artest's proclivity for idiocy--would be panicking. he and the whole pacers organization have made it very clear that they are not approaching this matter lightly, but are electing to be patient and wait for the right scenario to present itself. he's willing to sacrifice this season, basically, and wait until after the trade deadline to move artest. in other words, we'll likely see artest traded soon, but if it doesn't pan out, we'll be hearing artest trade rumors all the way to the offseason.
walsh has waited this long. there's no way he's about to go into panic mode right now, and trading for peja stojakovic--who is valued much less than artest, despite artest's proclivity for idiocy--would be panicking. he and the whole pacers organization have made it very clear that they are not approaching this matter lightly, but are electing to be patient and wait for the right scenario to present itself. he's willing to sacrifice this season, basically, and wait until after the trade deadline to move artest. in other words, we'll likely see artest traded soon, but if it doesn't pan out, we'll be hearing artest trade rumors all the way to the offseason.
I beg to differ. In spite of his slump/motivation problems - Peja straight up for Artest at this stage of things would not be a bad deal for Indy.
Lets see which of them makes more noise in the league the next 3 years. Don't get me wrong, I am a longtime Peja critic - but he quit on the Kings a couple years ago don't forget, and when he gets a change of scenery things could change.
If I'm Indy I do that deal (Peja essentially straight up).
Lets see which of them makes more noise in the league the next 3 years. Don't get me wrong, I am a longtime Peja critic - but he quit on the Kings a couple years ago don't forget, and when he gets a change of scenery things could change.
If I'm Indy I do that deal (Peja essentially straight up).
Plus, when did Peja have his best years?
Being second fiddle to superstar power-forward Chris Webber.
And who will he now be second fiddle to??? Superstar power-forward Jermaine O'Neal.
Throw that pitch, along with the whole "Change of scenery" pitch, and maybe...
But it still won't happen...Peja's play has been nothing short of horrible, and I don't think Indy would take the chance that Peja just might re-become the player he once was.
Being second fiddle to superstar power-forward Chris Webber.
And who will he now be second fiddle to??? Superstar power-forward Jermaine O'Neal.
Throw that pitch, along with the whole "Change of scenery" pitch, and maybe...
But it still won't happen...Peja's play has been nothing short of horrible, and I don't think Indy would take the chance that Peja just might re-become the player he once was.
good thing you're not. all benefits go to kings in this trade. not to mention that jermaine o'neal, the team's star, has said already that he would not want peja on the team. that's no ringing endorsement if you're donnie walsh.
now, i still wouldn't mind this particular trade happening, but it's so one-sided it's not even funny.
now, i still wouldn't mind this particular trade happening, but it's so one-sided it's not even funny.
Actually, they wouldnt laugh probably because they havent received too many interesting offers yet. If they had a trade would have been done long ago. Also, if Petrie had moved his rear as soon as Artest was on the block we wouldnt be having this discussion right now. Wherever Artest ends up he will make that team a hell of a lot better.
By "all benefits" you mean the guy who the Pacers cannot give away with a large dowry? The guy who virtually nobody in the league wants? And best irony of all, the guy who nearly everyone on this board was swearing up and down a few weeks ago was NOT ENOUGH to get in trade for Peja.
Fickle fickle fickle... the most fickle and prone to rash judgement fans in the league. Now lets talk about the huge extension we should give Bonzi after a dozen good games...
Fickle fickle fickle... the most fickle and prone to rash judgement fans in the league. Now lets talk about the huge extension we should give Bonzi after a dozen good games...
Pedja wouldn't make much sense? Put down JO's kool-aid. A spot up shooter in EC slow-down type of game, playing outside to JO's inside game would make all too much sense. Ask the Legend. Besides, as is evident to everyone who's been watching Kings now and 2 or more years ago. There seems to be too much milage on Pedja's clock. Even though he is only 29, he will be entering his 15th year as a full-time pro player and he's looking at an uspectacular salary amd maybe 2-3 more years of starting. He'd fit quite well on the Pacers.
Now, all we need is to convince Donnie.
Now, all we need is to convince Donnie.
bozzwell said:
Pedja wouldn't make much sense? Put down JO's kool-aid. A spot up shooter in EC slow-down type of game, playing outside to JO's inside game would make all too much sense. Ask the Legend. Besides, as is evident to everyone who's been watching Kings now and 2 or more years ago. There seems to be too much milage on Pedja's clock. Even though he is only 29, he will be entering his 15th year as a full-time pro player and he's looking at an uspectacular salary amd maybe 2-3 more years of starting. He'd fit quite well on the Pacers.
Now, all we need is to convince Donnie.
Now, all we need is to convince Donnie.
1. He's soft.
2. He would leave after this season.
3. He's ONLY 29...?
Pacers are trying to go young.4. He plays poor defense...... for Carisle, that means he wouldn't start.
5. JO has already said he wouldn't be a good fit.
6. Pacers don't have a need at SF, Danny Granger is the guy for the future.
7. He's soft.
SoupIsGood said:
Peja doesn't make sense.
1. He's soft.
2. He would leave after this season.
3. He's ONLY 29...? Pacers are trying to go young.
4. He plays poor defense...... for Carisle, that means he wouldn't start.
5. JO has already said he wouldn't be a good fit.
6. Pacers don't have a need at SF, Danny Granger is the guy for the future.
7. He's soft.
1. He's soft.
2. He would leave after this season.
3. He's ONLY 29...?
Pacers are trying to go young.4. He plays poor defense...... for Carisle, that means he wouldn't start.
5. JO has already said he wouldn't be a good fit.
6. Pacers don't have a need at SF, Danny Granger is the guy for the future.
7. He's soft.
Ahh, but JO does want Bonzi. So, the question is: Would the Pacers take Peja if that is what it took to get Bonzi? No question that any deal, if there were one, would be multi-player.....at least in my mind.
6th said:
Ahh, but JO does want Bonzi. So, the question is: Would the Pacers take Peja if that is what it took to get Bonzi? No question that any deal, if there were one, would be multi-player.....at least in my mind.
SoupIsGood said:
Peja doesn't make sense.
1. He's soft.
2. He would leave after this season.
3. He's ONLY 29...? Pacers are trying to go young.
4. He plays poor defense...... for Carisle, that means he wouldn't start.
5. JO has already said he wouldn't be a good fit.
6. Pacers don't have a need at SF, Danny Granger is the guy for the future.
7. He's soft.
1. He's soft.
2. He would leave after this season.
3. He's ONLY 29...?
Pacers are trying to go young.4. He plays poor defense...... for Carisle, that means he wouldn't start.
5. JO has already said he wouldn't be a good fit.
6. Pacers don't have a need at SF, Danny Granger is the guy for the future.
7. He's soft.
Tinsley -- 27
Jackson -- 27
O'Neal -- 27
Foster -- 28
Peja is actually still 28 himself. (born June 1977). Would seem to fit exactly in.
SoupIsGood said:
Peja doesn't make sense.
1. He's soft.
2. He would leave after this season.
3. He's ONLY 29...? Pacers are trying to go young.
4. He plays poor defense...... for Carisle, that means he wouldn't start.
5. JO has already said he wouldn't be a good fit.
6. Pacers don't have a need at SF, Danny Granger is the guy for the future.
7. He's soft.
1. He's soft.
2. He would leave after this season.
3. He's ONLY 29...?
Pacers are trying to go young.4. He plays poor defense...... for Carisle, that means he wouldn't start.
5. JO has already said he wouldn't be a good fit.
6. Pacers don't have a need at SF, Danny Granger is the guy for the future.
7. He's soft.