Are the Maloofs and Petrie Going to Panic?

[Kingster]

I'm not concerned about how bad our record is this year. That, at least, will yield a high draft pick. What concerns me is that this is the organization that PANICKED and traded for Ron Artest to solve all their woes. That decision delayed the final final decision to rebuild, not "refurbish". That decision will prolongue our pain. At this point, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they could dream up some real doozy and trade our mediocre vets, not for promising youngins and draft pick, but for other mediocre vets. A reshufling of the deck, just to show that they are in fact doing something. That is my #1 concern - will they panic and take us back to mediocrityville for time eternity?

 

[Vlade4GM]

Outside of Udrih and Garcia's MLE size deals, they've appeared to be pretty commited towards the 2010 cap plan; I think that will keep them grounded. They better know that rebuilding is inevitable.

 

[FakeInjury]

Malloofs....yes. Petrie....no so much. Petrie has been trying to get fired for years. I think that petrie handed his last contract extention to an underskilled underweight underacheiver...for the kings. I honestly think Kevin Mchale is a better GM over the past 3 years.

 

[VF21]

I'm not concerned about how bad our record is this year. That, at least, will yield a high draft pick. What concerns me is that this is the organization that PANICKED and traded for Ron Artest to solve all their woes. That decision delayed the final final decision to rebuild, not "refurbish". That decision will prolongue our pain. At this point, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they could dream up some real doozy and trade our mediocre vets, not for promising youngins and draft pick, but for other mediocre vets. A reshufling of the deck, just to show that they are in fact doing something. That is my #1 concern - will they panic and take us back to mediocrityville for time eternity?

Panic is certainly a relative - and loaded - term. I don't think they panicked in trading Ron Artest.

People seem to forget that the Maloofs and Petrie want a successful winning organization and a title even more than we, the rabid fans, do. While the thoughts on successfully reaching that goal may differ, they are now obivously committed to the idea of rebuilding.

I cannot imagine a scenario under which they "panic and take us back to mediiocrityville"... They aren't going to do a reshuffle. They're waiting for the new deck, to continue your metaphor. Unfortunately, they have to build it a few cards at a time.

 

[Bricklayer]

While they are certainly capable of panic in this situation, I don't think that was what the Ron thing was. The Webber trade = definitely. the Ron trade?? A risk, but turning an older less valuable asset into a younger more talented one is the sort of thing you can do wihtout panicking. Now for instance suddenly collecting up some of our kids and turnign them into older players who can win now -- that would be panicking.

 

[Emma]

Of course, the Maloofs will want to facilitate a move to land a star veteran sooner than the deadline as a result of all of this debauchery.

 

[bajaden]

I wouldn't call the Artest trade a panic move. It was a trade with some risk, and we won't know the outcome of the trade for a couple of years. Depending on who we draft or aquire in some other way with Houston's pick and Greene as a finished product, we could come out ahead on the trade. And at the very least, we got rid of a headache.

 

[Bricklayer]

I wouldn't call the Artest trade a panic move. It was a trade with some risk, and we won't know the outcome of the trade for a couple of years. Depending on who we draft or aquire in some other way with Houston's pick and Greene as a finished product, we could come out ahead on the trade. And at the very least, we got rid of a headache.

Think he was saying the trade to get Ron was a panic move, which I don't really agree with either.

 

[SacKings7]

While they are certainly capable of panic in this situation, I don't think that was what the Ron thing was. The Webber trade = definitely. the Ron trade?? A risk, but turning an older less valuable asset into a younger more talented one is the sort of thing you can do wihtout panicking. Now for instance suddenly collecting up some of our kids and turnign them into older players who can win now -- that would be panicking.

Did you just call Greene more talented than Artest?

 

[Bricklayer]

Did you just call Greene more talented than Artest?

Again guys, read the initial post -- he was complaining about the move to GET Ron, not the one to trade him away.

 

[VF21]

Ooops. I know I misread it.



The trade that sent Peja to the Pacers for Artest wasn't a panic move. It was a calculated risk that didn't totally blow up in our face but it certainly didn't work out to the best possible outcome.

Peja had a bad year at Indiana and then went to the Hornets, where he signed a contract that would have totally crippled us if we had done it.

All in the all, the Peja-Artest deal was nowhere near the worst thing Petrie has ever done.

The ONLY real panic move the Maloofs and Petrie have made, IMHO, is the Webber deal that brought us those fleixible pieces (one of whom is retired, one of whom is still playing in the league, and one of whom is still languishing on the Kings bench). That was full panic "OMG! What if he gets injured again?!?!?" If we had kept him, we would have won the same number of rings as we have without him, and we would be looking at a salary dump that boggles the mind at the end of this year... (I think).

 

[bajaden]

Think he was saying the trade to get Ron was a panic move, which I don't really agree with either.

And I did so well in school in the comprehension part of english. Damm!

 

[bajaden]

Hey, now that I think of it, my analogy still applies. Peja = Greene and Houston's draft pick. I feel better now.

 

[SacKings7]

Again guys, read the initial post -- he was complaining about the move to GET Ron, not the one to trade him away.

Oh. My bad. Well I definitely disagree there. We got the better end of that trade by far (Peja only played half a season in Indy, and didn't play too well). We got the better player, so even if it was a panic move, it isn't something we should be complaining about

 

[kingsnation]

The ONLY real panic move the Maloofs and Petrie have made, IMHO, is the Webber deal that brought us those fleixible pieces (one of whom is retired, one of whom is still playing in the league, and one of whom is still languishing on the Kings bench)

This deal STILL makes me cringe.

Had to be one of the worst moments in Kings franchise history.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I believe Webber's contract ended after last year, judging from Philly's cap space to sign Brand.

 

[VF21]

You're right. I get confused because we're still paying Kenny Thomas...

 

[Widowmaker2k]

Did you just call Greene more talented than Artest?

Greene just may be more talented than Artest (in regards to innate physical ability). He's certainly not as skilled as Artest, and time will tell if he can become a major impact player like Artest, but 'Buckets' has a ton of talent.

 

[Bricklayer]

Greene just may be more talented than Artest (in regards to innate physical ability). He's certainly not as skilled as Artest, and time will tell if he can become a major impact player like Artest, but 'Buckets' has a ton of talent.

Hmm...time will tell. Artest is pretty unique though -- no man that powerul should be that quick. Gives all the skinny little twits who normally excel at basketball fits.

 

[Kingster]

I should have qualified my comment about which Artest trade I was talking about. The panic move in my opinion was the Peja for Artest trade. Trading Artest for Houston was the sensible move.

 

[bajaden]

I should have qualified my comment about which Artest trade I was talking about. The panic move in my opinion was the Peja for Artest trade. Trading Artest for Houston was the sensible move.

Not your fault we all missed the word FOR. Just shows our ability to jump to conclusions, and seeing what we want to see. Correct that, Bricky didn't miss it. I hate when he right all the time.