Are Jimmer's shot selections questionable?

[K F Jay]

Are Jimmer's shot selections questionable?

 

[Glenn]

I don't care.

 

[gatoradeSD]

I know he was 0-5 yesterday but honestly he only took like 1 shot where he wasnt wide open. so this is a non issue in my opinion.

 

[Kingster]

He tries some questionable shots, but you want him to be aggressive. He seems to be in a major shooting slump though.

 

[Bricklayer]

Oh no, "that's a shot you really want him to take!"

Even if its a 30 footer with 18 seconds left on the shotclock.

Really.



In other words unequivocally yes.

 

[Lockehead]

For the most part he takes good shots. But at times it seems as if he's being too aggressive for his own good and does things like taking a shot too early in the shotclock, or forcing a tough shot. Some of that might be due to him trying to fit into Smart's gameplan.

 

[Mal]

They were very very questionable in college, but he made a lot of them. The game is just too fast for him, right now. He may never be able to adjust. He's a little heavy-footed.

PS: He was 0-6, rather than 0-5, yesterday.

 

[Glenn]

If I was a betting man and I am not, I would bet that over the next couple years Jimmer will be be an important part of a decent Kings organization. His play should improve as he gets experience and also as the team gets better. But that's just an opinion. I think we expect an awful lot from young players and now have been spoiled by Cousins. Yay! Some of the best players in the league never really hit it big for several years. That's life. Our impatience cannot change the way of things.

My first comment was "I don't care." Indeed, at this point in Jimmer's career, I don't care as long as I see improvement. I have seen improvement and that is good enough. Hey, he just came of a great game so what's the point of a poll on the game after it? We focus so much on the negative it gets depressing. (Where's my Zoloft?)

 

[kupman]

Yes they are.

However, I think pretty much each player on the team is guilty of taking many questionable shots this season.

 

[bajaden]

Here's the deal. First, he was accused of not being aggressive enough, passing up wide open shots. Now, he's being accused of being too aggressive. If the shots go in, no one complains, if they don't, lets throw him in the garbage can. The game before, he came out firing, and they were going in. The last game, it didn't happen. Did he take a couple with 15 plus seconds left on the clock? Yes! Is he the only one that does that? Nope!. Can we lighten up a little, or are there some of you unhappy unless your criticizing someone in some fashion.

Jimmer is going through an adjustment right now. The most common trait, is that everything is moving faster than they're accustomed to. As a result, they start to rush everything they do, including their shot. Eventually, everything starts to slow down for them, and Wa La, suddenly they become better players. In the last game, just about every shot he took was an open shot. He just missed them folks! Its that simple. I watched Timmy Hardaway go 1 for 22 one night. Unbeliveably, he still went on to a very nice career.

 

[kpm308]

If he's not shooting, then he really doesn't bring much more to the table. That's the reason he made the NBA, so let him shoot and hope once he gets comfortable he starts shooting good enough to be worth putting up with the stuff he can't do.

 

[Padrino]

Here's the deal. First, he was accused of not being aggressive enough, passing up wide open shots. Now, he's being accused of being too aggressive. If the shots go in, no one complains, if they don't, lets throw him in the garbage can. The game before, he came out firing, and they were going in. The last game, it didn't happen. Did he take a couple with 15 plus seconds left on the clock? Yes! Is he the only one that does that? Nope!. Can we lighten up a little, or are there some of you unhappy unless your criticizing someone in some fashion.

Jimmer is going through an adjustment right now. The most common trait, is that everything is moving faster than they're accustomed to. As a result, they start to rush everything they do, including their shot. Eventually, everything starts to slow down for them, and Wa La, suddenly they become better players. In the last game, just about every shot he took was an open shot. He just missed them folks! Its that simple. I watched Timmy Hardaway go 1 for 22 one night. Unbeliveably, he still went on to a very nice career.

i agree, but the problem with jimmer is one of expectation. he was taken 10th overall in the 2011 draft. such positioning carries with it very particular stigmas, and if i'm a gm, i seriously hesitate to draft a shooter of jimmer's limitation that early in the draft. is it jimmer's fault that he was taken so high? no, it is not. however, the average fan is going to expect quite a bit more from a top-ten pick than the kings have been getting. jimmer can shoot the ball. but that's about it. he does not defend well. he does not handle the ball well. he does not have the size, strength, or elevation to be a consistently solid rebounder from his position. he's got a high basketball IQ and solid court vision, but he's not a great passer...

he's a shooter. and if he's not shooting the ball well, he's not very useful. in fact, if he's not lighting it up, he's likely having a negative impact on the game, because of the aforementioned weaknesses. but none of this is new information. jimmer was scouted as such, and his resume this season--which includes being mightily outplayed by the 60th pick in the draft--is all the evidence necessary to recognize just how terrible the trade was that brought salmons' contract back to sacramento so the kings could move down in the draft to snag jimmer at 10. at 20, it might be a different conversation. either way, its not all bad. he shot a decent percentage the other night against minnesota...

as far as his career is concerned, i have hope for jimmer as a player the kings can bring off the bench to hit the open jumper when the rest of the team is misfiring. his growing pains will be in learning to play off the ball, because that's how coaches will want to utilize him. he is far too physically limited to be a primary ball handler in the nba, but his advertised dead-eye shooting will be an asset, as long as he starts hitting 'em. he should be drilling a high percentage of those wide open threes he receives off of kickouts. on such plays, i don't find his shots questionable at all. they come in the rhythm of the offense, and jimmer is being asked to take those shots to help spread the floor for cousins, evans, etc. however, i do find the results questionable. 0-6 on largely uncontested shots--for a guy who was touted as a pure shooter coming out of college--does not look good. at all. i expect that he'll find the bottom of the net more often in the future, but, again, my expectations are reasonable: bench player. utility shooter. limited minutes. those expecting more than that from a player not built for the nba's athleticism will be disappointed...

 

[Gary]

Never really a Jimmer guy but I think he comes back next year and is able to hit 40% from 3pt. He's a role player, and once people explain that he's here to come off the bench and give us some 3pt shots then he will adapt and play better. Right now he's trying to do too much and it's taking away from what we actually need him for.

I wanted Brandon Knight BTW, but seeing how he has played I am kind of glad we didn't get him. He can't really run an offense either..

 

[bluntsnbball]

i think he just makes his shots more difficult than they need to be. He just doesnt look smooth out there. He gets some separation but doesnt have the best timing and he ends up hanging on the air too long and hoisting up a shot using all upper body strength. i think he'll grow out of it once he gets more comfortable out there but its still obvious that his confidence isnt quite there yet.

 

[VF21]

Here's the deal. First, he was accused of not being aggressive enough, passing up wide open shots. Now, he's being accused of being too aggressive. If the shots go in, no one complains, if they don't, lets throw him in the garbage can. The game before, he came out firing, and they were going in. The last game, it didn't happen. Did he take a couple with 15 plus seconds left on the clock? Yes! Is he the only one that does that? Nope!. Can we lighten up a little, or are there some of you unhappy unless your criticizing someone in some fashion.

Jimmer is going through an adjustment right now. The most common trait, is that everything is moving faster than they're accustomed to. As a result, they start to rush everything they do, including their shot. Eventually, everything starts to slow down for them, and Wa La, suddenly they become better players. In the last game, just about every shot he took was an open shot. He just missed them folks! Its that simple. I watched Timmy Hardaway go 1 for 22 one night. Unbeliveably, he still went on to a very nice career.

Now this I totally agree with!

 

[Spike]

It seems like everyone is encouraged to just shoot more, not just Jimmer. That said, I think he'll be fine. He had a couple of good showings the last few games. He didn't forget HOW to shoot. He just needs to learn WHEN to shoot.

 

[King Baller]

Even though Fredette has a strong case of the Rookie Yips his 3 point % and free throw % are the best on the Kings. Still not saying much and he is shooting poorly overall. I'm willing to withhold judgement until he cycles through a couple regular seasons with Summer League, a full camp, full pre-season and a normal schedule with a normal practice schedule.

Jimmer looks like he can figure it out given time.

KB

 

[rainmaker]

Some yes, some no. But shockingly, that's normal for rookies. The shots I don't like are the pullup contested long 3's in transition, early in the shot clock. That's a poor shot unless you're in a 2 for 1 situation, for anyone. But this is also where Jimmers lack of ballhandling comes in. Coming down in transition with your dribble, when a defender is coming at you, most NBA guards have the handles to cross the guy over and get by him. Jimmer lack of a handle forces him into some of these shots. I think he thinks he can't get off a better look in a half court set, and that's why he forces these long 3's sometimes.

Now, a wide open 3 in transition that isn;t 3 ft behind the line? Take it. Spot up 3's in a half court set off kickouts? Take them. Don't care if he's 0-5, he's out there to shoot, as long as they're good shots. Main thing with Jimmer is working on everything else, so he can contribute and help us when his shot isn't falling. Work on his handle this summer, work on a Nash type runner which he'd be able to get off and shouldn't be hard for him to add, and watch tape, then watch more tape, go eat, and come back and watch some more! He can get better shots, but isn't realizing where those shots are. He's getting into gaps where he can stop and pop, yet is taking another dribble or two and missing the brief window. You have to know where your windows will come to get shots off in this league, and Jimmer struggles with that. But that is better than not being able to get to those windows/gaps in the first place. Need to recognize them.

And K F Jay, all you do is start polls. How about actually participating in a thread? I don't think anyone knows your opinion on anything.

 

[Quix]

I'm that 1 guy who thinks he can make any shot, anywhere, etc...

and by 'think' i mean 'hope reaaally hard that he can'

 

[Mal]

Do you know the difference between vertical thinking and horizontal thinking? Thinking vertically you keeping Jimmer and hope he gets better over time. Thinking horizontally you dump Jimmer and get one of the numerous players available who are already much better and have more natural athletic ability. You can keep beating your head against a rock and hope someday the rock breaks, or you can just walk around the rock keep on going.

 

[King Baller]

Do you know the difference between vertical thinking and horizontal thinking? Thinking vertically you keeping Jimmer and hope he gets better over time. Thinking horizontally you dump Jimmer and get one of the numerous players available who are already much better and have more natural athletic ability. You can keep beating your head against a rock and hope someday the rock breaks, or you can just walk around the rock keep on going.

Thank you for helping me out with my thinking! Its all clear now man!!!

KB

 

[ppine]

No. His shot selections are fine. His mental state is questionable.

 

[bajaden]

Do you know the difference between vertical thinking and horizontal thinking? Thinking vertically you keeping Jimmer and hope he gets better over time. Thinking horizontally you dump Jimmer and get one of the numerous players available who are already much better and have more natural athletic ability. You can keep beating your head against a rock and hope someday the rock breaks, or you can just walk around the rock keep on going.

Gee, and all this time I thought Vertical thinking was when I was standing, and horizontal thinking was when I was layinig down. Something I might suggest for you by the way. Lay down and dream of sheep jumping vertically over a horizontal fence. That way, you'll be doing both at the same time. Sort of like walking and chewing gum at the same time.

 

[swisshh]

I have more of a problem of when he takes a shot once he's dribbled himself into no man's land in the paint and throws up some wonky fade-away. His outside range is crazy deep and hitting from deep is a pre-requisite for pump faking and getting to the rim. It's the in-between game that has let him down.

 

[Section 101]

Gee, and all this time I thought Vertical thinking was when I was standing, and horizontal thinking was when I was layinig down. Something I might suggest for you by the way. Lay down and dream of sheep jumping vertically over a horizontal fence. That way, you'll be doing both at the same time. Sort of like walking and chewing gum at the same time.

Bet you can go diagonal.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

He takes good shots for the most part. I want him to keep shooting and shooting untill hes comfortable... now some of those are going to be bad shots that miss and some will be the opposite.. But HES A SHOOTER.. right now he needs to shoot... He'll be a much more consistent player next year, his work ethic and attitude will prove to be wise.

 

[Mal]

You're reply is almost amusing.....almost.

 

[Spike]

I dunno, I thought Jimmer had a pretty good vertical.