Amick: Sergio possibly going to Memphis.
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MassachusettsKingsFan
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Um. Look at the backup point guards in this league .. how many of them are better than Sergio? and how many are as young as Sergio? not many.
He can make dumb mistakes .. so can every bench player. He's probly had just as many good games as bad this year, I think with consistent PT he can help any team off the bench. He still has room to develop.
Gary
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Rockmeister
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Although I am no Sergio fan, I do agree about not giving Sergio away. He is a nice change of pace PG. Yes, he makes dumb mistakes, but so does everyone else on the team.
bajaden
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Lets us remember that the trade was agreed upon before the draft. Petrie nor anyone else even knew that Blair would be available. It had nothing to do with our needs at the center or the PF position. Plus Petrie had tried to trade for Sergio before. So when Portland wanted to switch picks in the second round, he had them throw in Sergio.
ElRey
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Yah no crap.. Genius move Petrie! Way to go!
All you armchair GM's need to chill out. You are NOT smarter than Geoff Petrie, you just have the benefit of hindsight which is always 100%. You guys criticize him for not drafting Blair, but nobody knew Blair was going to drop that far. I don't remember ANYONE on here that knew or predicted Blair was going to drop deep into the second round at the time of the draft and was encouraging the Kings to draft him.
qft
Gary
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Petrie isn't the smartest guy in the world.. I would go as far as saying if it came down to it I would bet quite a few people here on the forums are smarter than him.. As for basketball smarts? No....
But in the last 4 years Petrie hasn't made the best moves.. He did not earn that extension imo.
As for the bold sentence, that's what he gets (criticism). He should have kept the pick rather than making that idiotic trade which at the time had most everyone here scratching our heads wondering what crack he was smoking. You have to make contingencies in case a gem falls in the draft. Last year I believe it was CDR who the Kings could have got (the picks were going for future 2nd rounders, and some for straight up cash considerations). We realistically had a chance to nab Jordan, CDR, or Chalmers, but got Ewing, and Singleton? Neither one of those players were even slated to be drafted let alone as early as they were. Petrie is not a genius, and the last 4 years he is average at best.
91sickness
Bench
The criticism I have is that it was totally unnecessary to make that trade pre-draft day because you have no idea who was going to be available. Sergio isnt the kind of player you take that kind of risk for. If they were including a cant miss player than you make that deal pre-draft. But since it was a 3rd string pg, we could have waited to see who was available and if there wasnt anyone there, make the trade on draft day. Seemed like a pretty dumb move to me. The hypothetical situation of a guy dropping and being there for you is the reason you wait, and thats exactly what happened.
Aenadin
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sergio for jordan hill straight up!
sergio is a good passer but he pounds the ball way too much then drives in and throws wild passes that would either wow you or give you the wtf moment of the game
if we can get a second rounder id be happy
but if new york is really serious about building the all stacked team for 2010 then give us jordan hill lol
sergio is a good passer but he pounds the ball way too much then drives in and throws wild passes that would either wow you or give you the wtf moment of the game
if we can get a second rounder id be happy
but if new york is really serious about building the all stacked team for 2010 then give us jordan hill lol
DocHolliday
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And, Rick Adelman is a horrible coach, definitely should have been fired. Good thing we didn't keep that bum around, because the next 3 coaches we had were WAY better.
Be careful what you ask for when you talk about getting rid of key players in the front office.
=LarryLegend=
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I miss rick!!!!!!
You're not going to get a can't-miss player in exchange for dropping 7 spots in the second round. You're just not.
Portland clearly had their eyes on Pendergraph (they skipped Blair, too) and felt they needed to move up to get him. If we had waited on the deal, there's not even a guarantee it would have been available on draft day because they might have moved up to the 32 slot or the 33 slot or even the late first round in the meantime.
Petrie had an opportunity, and he took it. Was it a risk? I suppose. But it seems like a lot of folks around here want him to be taking risks about now instead of "sitting on his hands". Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.
91sickness
Bench
Obvioulsy we are not going to get a cant miss guy but I dont know if sergio is worth pulling the trigger on the deal pre-draft. If we would have waited and seem who was still available and there wasnt anyone we were really high on then go ahead and make the deal. I just feel like your shooting yourself in the foot by not at least waiting to see what players are available before trading down. Not the end of the world really, but it would have been nice to have blair comin off the bench rather than sergio and brockman. I like brockman alot but but i like blair better...
And if heaven forbid Blair's knees blow out next season then Petrie's a genius again, right? I like what Blair does and if he has a full, healthy long career then all the other GMs look like idiots, but if his knees give in the middle of a title run and you have nobody to replace him then what? Blair is an easy choice for a team that is already in good shape, not so much for a team that is rebuilding and needs a steady foundation.
I mean seriously, it seemed like a decent move at the time and helped solidify the choice of Evans, the likely ROY (I know I wasn't the only one that felt this move signalled that Evans was our choice).
I mean seriously, it seemed like a decent move at the time and helped solidify the choice of Evans, the likely ROY (I know I wasn't the only one that felt this move signalled that Evans was our choice).
sidney
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Of course in hindsight it was a mistake. And who knows what the future holds. San Antonio might extend him for big $$ in a couple of years and then his knees catch up with him.
Petrie also got the ROY at #4 and another top 10 player in Casspi in the 20s. He gets an A for that draft regardless of the Blair miss.
There are plenty of moves that you can criticize Petrie about, but the 2009 draft day performance is not one of them.
ElRey
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But who knew Blair was going to available? Nobody. HOw many second rounders even make the league to begin with? (I know there are a lot of exceptions but what percent? 1%???) So now we should just keep all our second rounders and pray someone drops? because you never know when that superstar is going drop to us, right?
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Well, obviously it's a lot more than 1% of second-rounders that make the league. But I agree that the handwringing over Blair does suggest, it the extreme, a policy of never trading a future second-round pick just in case. And that's not going to fly.
Especially with all the close losses this year. Nobody could draw up a late game play like RA.
SacKings7
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A TE is created when a team under the cap trades away salary for pretty much nothing. Or maybe they can take back salary but as much, I'm not sure. But anyway, a "trade exception" the size of the salary traded (or once again, the difference in salary if it works that way too, I'm not sure) is created, and can be used in a future trade with another team. However, they can expire.
For example, let's say we're $10Mil under the cap, and we trade a player with a $7Mil contract to a team and don't take any salary back. We receive a trade exception worth $7Mil that can be used in a trade with another team, up until it expires
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91sickness
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Im not saying never do it. With it being the first pick of the second round there is a good chance you can get a good player... Carlos Boozer, Manu Ginobli, Rashard Lewis, Gilbert Arenas, Michael Redd, Mehmet Okur, Monte Ellis, Stephen Jackson, Mo Willams....all second round guys. There is usually always an impact sort of guy that drops to the second round...a la Blair. With us having the 1st shot at this kind of player, I feel we would have been better served to wait and see if someone falls out of the first round and if they can be of value to us. If not go ahead and make the deal to drop down a few spots and get a guy in the process. If it were not the first pick of the second round it would have been no big deal really.
Gary
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I used to say that about Petrie.. But 4 crappy years has given me a lot of time to think. Petrie has been a bit blah.
Gary
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That's the thing.. You don't pick a second rounder thinking he is going to be a second rounder, but when the Kings are lacking what Blair brings EVERY night it just makes you think.... What was Petrie smoking? Can it be that most everyone on kingsfans would have made a better decision than Petrie, the guy paid millions to do what we like to do for free? Right now it looks that way.
Don't get me wrong though... My draft was Rubio, Mullens and Blair. Only time will tell if it's better than Petries.
My idea behind those three players was that Rubio was well...... Rubio.. Until he plays in the NBA can't say really anything good or bad about him.
Mullens.. This kid was slated on every mock draft to go #1 when he was a senior in high school. He was in the top 3 for high school recruits and was a 1 and done college player supposedly going to be in the top 5. Was a possibility he fell so far in the draft because of college coaching.. Possibility it could have been him as well.. I would have taken that chance though. In 3 years he could still be a great center. Time will tell..
As for Blair he was a long shot on a guy with bad knees, but he brought toughness.. Something the Kings lacked..
NME
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I think there's some revisionism there. Your sig for a long time said Rubio/Mullens/Mills, who between them have combined for about one full NBA game worth of court time.
ElRey
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I think there's some revisionism there. Your sig for a long time said Rubio/Mullens/Mills, who between them have combined for about one full NBA game worth of court time.
HAHAHAH! GOOD WORK NME. wonder what the poor guy is going to say now? "It wasn't me"???? "I was just joking about that sig" ????
I'm going to make that MY sig now!
NME
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HAHAHAH! GOOD WORK NME. wonder what the poor guy is going to say now? "It wasn't me"???? "I was just joking about that sig" ????
I'm going to make that MY sig now!
To be fair to Gary, that might only have been only limited to who was available on draft night, but I had to give him a bad time because that trio could not have worked out worse to date.
TTown Kings
Bench
Look, I wanted Rubio as well. But anybody that is advocating that a draft that did not consist of Tyreke would be better than the one that did is just too damn stubborn to admit that they were and are wrong.
Eat the crow my friend it's mighty tasty.
Eat the crow my friend it's mighty tasty.