2nd Round Action

There is going to be some sick steals in the 2nd round this draft. Jimmer Freddett, Brackens, PArakouski Hanargody, Jerome Jordan, Chism, Scottie Reynolds, Sherron collins will probably fall. These 1st rounders aside from Wall and Turner and Patterson are not head and shoulders ahead of some of these 2nd rounders. I think we should pick up another 2nd rd. pick because ∑´don't want to have to work with MAY and UDOKA again.
 
Yes, they are heads and shoulders better, well, maybe heads and one shoulder. But why not try and get something useful? If you find a player who will get second NBA contract you did good. If you find a guy who will be a part of your team's 7-8 man rotation you stroke gold.
We don't know who's coming out this year but early second-rounder sure can net a decent player this year. Because of looming lockout I don't want to speculate who's gonna be there when Kings pick but there may be someone totally unexpected at this point.
 
I like Maryland's Greivis Vasquez as a sleeper 2nd round pick (maybe if we buy another one after ours). He's a senior and not especially athletic, but he's big, tough, has point guard skills, and can shoot, making me think he could be a nice fit next to Tyreke. We could do much worse for our 3rd PG next year.
 
I like Maryland's Greivis Vasquez as a sleeper 2nd round pick (maybe if we buy another one after ours). He's a senior and not especially athletic, but he's big, tough, has point guard skills, and can shoot, making me think he could be a nice fit next to Tyreke. We could do much worse for our 3rd PG next year.
Petrie should just choose best talent available with their pick. Kings don't have goals for next season other than further growing kids. Evans is considered a future PG so Udrih is sliding to the bench and need for 3rd PG is not really that urgent. So just get talent.
 
Petrie should just choose best talent available with their pick. Kings don't have goals for next season other than further growing kids. Evans is considered a future PG so Udrih is sliding to the bench and need for 3rd PG is not really that urgent. So just get talent.

Note how I said buy another pick. And, although I'd prefer a Evans/Cisco starting backcourt, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a lot more of Beno/Evans. Plus, as last night showed, a 3rd PG is useful to have around in the case of injuries.

I'm not saying Vasquez should be a priority, just someone to consider taking a look at in the 2nd round, where you're lucky if you can land a player who even makes the team. So yeah, if you can land a 3rd PG that gives you some nice play off the bench when you need it, that's a victory for a mid/late 2nd.
 
There are a few intriguing guys that might be there in the 2nd round.

Out of curiousity, why has Willie Warren dropped to the 2nd round on nbadraft.net? I know they're not the most accurate, but has something happened with him? He'd be great value in the second round, although I'm not sure how high his ceiling is. I doubt he'll be there in the second and if he is, it won't be for long.

Another guy that I'd take a look at is Alexey Shved. In truth he probably needs a few more years before he will contribute but he could be a good player. He is a very big combo guard at around 6'7'' so if he panned out, there would be match-up nightmares all over the floor if you paired him with 'Reke. He's a unique prospect and I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him at all.

Harangody. I really don't know. Very productive player and not afraid to throw his body around. Good rebounder and scorer. Limited potential but you just get the feeling that at the very least, he will make an impact in limited minutes with his energy and enthusiasm. I don't know if we have enough space on the team for an undersized PF who doesn't play defense but I'm sure he will be a solid pick for some team.

Then you have Brackins. Has good potential and would be a very good pick in the 2nd. Worth taking a flyer on. Will he last that long?

Varnado is an obvious choice. Not sure if he'll even be good enough to get rotation minutes as the couple times I've seen him he hasn't looked good. Still, he blocks shots and makes a good attempt on defense. Seems like a high energy guy and would fit in well on this roster. A tad small at 6'9'' and certainly not a center. But a guy that could earn his minutes at PF if he worked hard. He's an obvious choice for a team that is sorely lacking in defenseive presence although he would most definitely not be the teams saviour. Probably won't last deep into the second, if at all.

Pittman and Reynolds might be worth a look although I don't think there's space for either. We have enough guards and Pittman might not be much more than Brockman. Dyson's game reminds me of Ray Allens, though I wouldn't bet on him reaching those heights. Good shooter with pure form. Could be a decent spark plug in the future. Not too enthusiastic about the guys in this last paragraph although that is subject to change.
 
There are a few intriguing guys that might be there in the 2nd round.

Out of curiousity, why has Willie Warren dropped to the 2nd round on nbadraft.net? I know they're not the most accurate, but has something happened with him? He'd be great value in the second round, although I'm not sure how high his ceiling is. I doubt he'll be there in the second and if he is, it won't be for long.
He had a feud with Jeff Capel (Oklahoma coach) and then suffered a season-ending injury - not a good combination for your draft stock. Regardless, I don't think he'll be there when second round comes.

Another guy that I'd take a look at is Alexey Shved. In truth he probably needs a few more years before he will contribute but he could be a good player. He is a very big combo guard at around 6'7'' so if he panned out, there would be match-up nightmares all over the floor if you paired him with 'Reke. He's a unique prospect and I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him at all.
I don't think he's strong enough to guard SGs and quick enough for PGs.


Harangody. I really don't know. Very productive player and not afraid to throw his body around. Good rebounder and scorer. Limited potential but you just get the feeling that at the very least, he will make an impact in limited minutes with his energy and enthusiasm. I don't know if we have enough space on the team for an undersized PF who doesn't play defense but I'm sure he will be a solid pick for some team.
Definitely, not worth an early second-rounder, if any, at all. No offense that will translate to the NBA and no athleticism. We encountered similar player in Amundson but he at least is a good athlete.

Then you have Brackins. Has good potential and would be a very good pick in the 2nd. Worth taking a flyer on. Will he last that long?
Worth a look, doubt he'll be available after 1st round but has very nice offensive game overall. Not much of a rebounder and is kinda skinny which does not bode well for his defensive potential.

Varnado is an obvious choice. Not sure if he'll even be good enough to get rotation minutes as the couple times I've seen him he hasn't looked good. Still, he blocks shots and makes a good attempt on defense. Seems like a high energy guy and would fit in well on this roster. A tad small at 6'9'' and certainly not a center. But a guy that could earn his minutes at PF if he worked hard. He's an obvious choice for a team that is sorely lacking in defenseive presence although he would most definitely not be the teams saviour. Probably won't last deep into the second, if at all.
Nothing to add.:)
 
There are a few intriguing guys that might be there in the 2nd round.

Out of curiousity, why has Willie Warren dropped to the 2nd round on nbadraft.net? I know they're not the most accurate, but has something happened with him? He'd be great value in the second round, although I'm not sure how high his ceiling is. I doubt he'll be there in the second and if he is, it won't be for long.

Another guy that I'd take a look at is Alexey Shved. In truth he probably needs a few more years before he will contribute but he could be a good player. He is a very big combo guard at around 6'7'' so if he panned out, there would be match-up nightmares all over the floor if you paired him with 'Reke. He's a unique prospect and I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him at all.

Harangody. I really don't know. Very productive player and not afraid to throw his body around. Good rebounder and scorer. Limited potential but you just get the feeling that at the very least, he will make an impact in limited minutes with his energy and enthusiasm. I don't know if we have enough space on the team for an undersized PF who doesn't play defense but I'm sure he will be a solid pick for some team.

Then you have Brackins. Has good potential and would be a very good pick in the 2nd. Worth taking a flyer on. Will he last that long?

Varnado is an obvious choice. Not sure if he'll even be good enough to get rotation minutes as the couple times I've seen him he hasn't looked good. Still, he blocks shots and makes a good attempt on defense. Seems like a high energy guy and would fit in well on this roster. A tad small at 6'9'' and certainly not a center. But a guy that could earn his minutes at PF if he worked hard. He's an obvious choice for a team that is sorely lacking in defenseive presence although he would most definitely not be the teams saviour. Probably won't last deep into the second, if at all.

Pittman and Reynolds might be worth a look although I don't think there's space for either. We have enough guards and Pittman might not be much more than Brockman. Dyson's game reminds me of Ray Allens, though I wouldn't bet on him reaching those heights. Good shooter with pure form. Could be a decent spark plug in the future. Not too enthusiastic about the guys in this last paragraph although that is subject to change.

Lets start with Warren. He played his way right out of the starting lineup at Oklahoma. Thats how badly he played. He had trouble creating his own shot and as a result took a lot of bad shots. He found out that life after Blake Griffin wasn't so easy. Especially when the defense of the other team was focused on him. I think theres a better than even chance he returns to school to try and regain what he lost. One of those things by the way was his shot. He was just terrible this year. With no shot, he's just an average player.

As much as I love the competitive spirit of Harangody, he's an overachiever surpreme. I wouldn't go so far as to say that he can't play in the NBA, but I do think he's limited by his lack of height and his lack of athleticism. He is very skilled in the post, but my gut tells me that he's a guy that will struggle to find minutes in the NBA.

Brackins is someone I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on. He made a mistake returning to school as far as draft status goes. I think he would have been a first round choice last year. But in a year where there are so many big men available, he's been pushed down the board into the second round. The irony is that by returning, he's developed into a better all around player. I think he's someone that can make a team and earn some minutes.

Pittman is someone that I just love to death and at the same time he scares me to death. His future is like a blank road map. I have no idea how he's going to turn out in the future. I have my hopes for him, but he wouldn't be my first choice in the second round for a center. I would lean toward either Parakhouski or Jordan before Pittman. Jordan being a legit 7 footer whose athletic with long arms. He also has some post skills to go along. Its been his aggressiveness that I've questioned. Parakhouski is a skilled lost post center whose very strong, has very good hands and a soft touch around the basket. He's been a pretty good defender in his conference, and an outstanding rebounder. If you were to ask me who is the better player, Pittman or Parakhouski, I would say Parakhouski hands down. The only rub comes from the fact that Pittman played in a better conference. But looking at the sucess of Northern Iowa and St. Mary's, maybe not.

I like Varnado a lot. Other than the fact that he's 6'9" and not 7'1", I think he's someone that will definitely make a team and contribute serious minutes. If not immediately, then in a year or two. I mean come on. He's the all time NCAA shotblocker. You don't earn that title by accident. He may never become a starter, but I think he can be a player that comes off the bench and give you some good interior defense. Especially weakside defense.

I'm not a big fan of Scottie Reynolds. Very streaky shooter. He's really a SG in a PG's body. He's not that athletic. He's not a particularly good passer or ballhandler, and he's an absolutely terrible defender. I would draft Jimmy Fredette before him. Fredette shares some of the same faults, but is a much better shooter. He's a little bigger and much stronger. And while I would labet Fredette as more of a shooting guard also, at least he does have some playmaking skills.

I think the second round is where you take a flyer on someone that you think might be a help in a couple of years. Maybe even develop in a good enough basketball player to be a part of the regular rotation.

Some guys that I like are:

Kenneth Faried: 6'8" SF/PF. Will probably play SF in the NBA. A freak athlete in the Gerold Wallace class. Has a long way to go to be able to play on the perimiter in the NBA, but he might be worth the effort. Very explosive athlete.

Da'Sean Butler: 6'7" SF. A good athlete and scorer. Played a little at the PF position in college, but has enough SF skills to play in the NBA.

Jarvis Varnado: 6'9" PF. Enough said about him.

Manny Harris: 6'5" SG. Very good scorer that can really light it up at times. A good athlete and decent ballhandler. He's no Evan Turner, but in some other years he would be a first round pick.

Jerome Jordan: 7' C. Has all the tools to be a decent to good center in the NBA. Great size and has a great wingspan. Great frame that could easily carry more muscle. Has some decent low post skills and a little jumper that he seldom uses. How good he can become is all up to him. He tends to have a laid back manner that sometimes carries on to the court. He played with aggression in the tourney. If he can continue that, I think he'll be a decent player.

Arinze Onuaku: 6'10" C/PF. I don't know if he'll make it back to play before the tourney is over or not. He was playing his best basketball when he was injured. I see him as more of PF in the NBA, but he's certainly strong enough to play the center position. He's a decent athlete, but doesn't appear to have great hops, or even a great wingspan. I'll be curious to see his results at the combine. He's a good rebounder and has some low post skill.

Art Parakhouski: 6'11" C. Appears to be a decent to good athlete for the center position. Might lack lateral quickness. Has a decent wingspan and is very strong. Is very skilled around the basket and is a decent shotblocker in his conference. He's an outstanding rebounder. He has good hands and a soft touch. He's also a physical player in the post.

Charles Garcia: 6'10" PF. You love him one minute and you hate him the next. Very skilled big man. He can score inside and outside. He's a very good passer and he can handle the ball well for a big man. He tends to get too full of himself with his passing at times and makes stupid turnovers. He's a good athlete and is at times, a good rebounder. Sort of like when he thinks about it. He's still looking up the word defense in the dictionary. The concept eludes him. This is a guy that has the potential to be a lottery pick, but his brain gets in the way.. He would be a risky pick in the first round, but someone you might take a flyer on in the second.

Derrick Charactor: 6'9" PF. This is an interesting guy thats been flying under the radar this year. Most have forgotten who he was. This is the guy that was ranked right behind Greg Oden coming out of highschool. This is the guy that played against Oden in the Nike highschool game and took him to the cleaners. Charactor was one of the most skilled big men coming out of highschool. Then he went to Louisville and got himself in trouble with Pittino, and eventually the law. He then put himself back together and transfered to UTEP. He had to sit out a year, and this year re-emerged as a very good player. He's been a model student and teammate by all accounts. He seems to overcome his weight problems. This is a guy that might be worth taking a gamble on. He's loaded with talent and is still shaking off the rust of not playing for a year. He's a very skilled big man..

Last but not least, Keith Benson: 6'11" C. I don't know if he's going to throw his hat into the ring or not. But he's another of those tall skinny shotblockers. He helped get Oakland into the tourney and played very well in Oaklands loss. Another long term project, but one that could pay dividends down the road.
 
Interesting about Caracter, I haven't heard his name in like two years.

Yeah, like I said he's been sort of flying under the radar. He didn't have what I would call a talk of the town year at UTEP, but he had a solid year. And I remember the Nike game where he went head to head with Oden and cleaned his clock. He was very advanced for a highschool player, having a very good outside game to go along with a very good post game.

I don't know that he'll come out this year with another year of eligibility left. But he was the number two ranked highschool player in the country, and he hasn't lost any of his talent. He just lost his way for a while.
 
Kenneth Faried: 6'8" SF/PF. Will probably play SF in the NBA. A freak athlete in the Gerold Wallace class. Has a long way to go to be able to play on the perimiter in the NBA, but he might be worth the effort. Very explosive athlete.

This guy I think is my favorite prospect of the 2nd round, other than maybe Parakhouski. Maybe he's got a way to go to play offensively on the perimeter...but what about playing 15 mpg being a wild-haired rebounding defensive force who just scores on putbacks and dunks? Isn't the potential there for him to do that next year?
 
This guy I think is my favorite prospect of the 2nd round, other than maybe Parakhouski. Maybe he's got a way to go to play offensively on the perimeter...but what about playing 15 mpg being a wild-haired rebounding defensive force who just scores on putbacks and dunks? Isn't the potential there for him to do that next year?

Yeah, I'm sure that lot of people haven't seen this kid play, but he's a lot of fun to watch. Just a terrific athlete. As I said I would compare him to Gerold Wallace in athletic ability and also in the fact that Wallace had to play center in college and so did Faried. And yes, I can see him doing that in the short term, but long term, he could be something special.
 
If Pittman falls to the second round, I'd definitely pick him. High risk, high gain. He could be great. He could be a bust. But for a 2nd round pick the price is so low you'd have to take a shot.
 
If Pittman falls to the second round, I'd definitely pick him. High risk, high gain. He could be great. He could be a bust. But for a 2nd round pick the price is so low you'd have to take a shot.
For high risk, high reward I'd rather go for someone like Faried. Pittman sucked in the second half of college season. Conditioning is too much to overcome for him.
 
Da'Sean Butler: 6'7" SF. A good athlete and scorer. Played a little at the PF position in college, but has enough SF skills to play in the NBA.


This guy is clutch as hell I've been paying close attention to him all year as I was wondering just why WVU was ranked so highly. He had a GREAT Big East tourney getting clutch bucket after clutch bucket, dude has skills. I'd love him for this team if we didn't have Omri and Donte already though.
 
This guy is clutch as hell I've been paying close attention to him all year as I was wondering just why WVU was ranked so highly. He had a GREAT Big East tourney getting clutch bucket after clutch bucket, dude has skills. I'd love him for this team if we didn't have Omri and Donte already though.

I think this is a deep draft. It may no be deep in players with superstar potential, but beyond that there are a lot of players all the way into the second round that can play in the NBA. And I'm sure there will be some in the second round that will be better than some taken in the first round.
 
Yeah I agree as well, even a guy like Scottie Reynolds while not a real pg but a more sg in a pgs mold I see him having a Jet Terry like career in the league. He's got something about him in the clutch that a team that takes a chance on him in the 2nd round will be surprised by the type of production they get out of him.
 
He had a feud with Jeff Capel (Oklahoma coach) and then suffered a season-ending injury - not a good combination for your draft stock. Regardless, I don't think he'll be there when second round comes.

I don't think he's strong enough to guard SGs and quick enough for PGs.


Definitely, not worth an early second-rounder, if any, at all. No offense that will translate to the NBA and no athleticism. We encountered similar player in Amundson but he at least is a good athlete.

Worth a look, doubt he'll be available after 1st round but has very nice offensive game overall. Not much of a rebounder and is kinda skinny which does not bode well for his defensive potential.

Nothing to add.:)

Disagree big time on the Harangody part. He's pretty much dominated every NBA prospect put in front of him the last couple of years. He'll translate. He can also shoot from NBA 3 point range, at the very least he'll be a legit spot up shooter at PF. You also underrate Harangody's athleticism. Amundson doesn't have 1/10th the offensive skill Harangody has.
 
Draft terrence jennings :) he's from sac - louisville. I played with him at capital christian


I would love that myself. He's full sized and goes after just about everything that comes towards him at the basket. Hell of an athlete too. Is he a good guy? Is his head on straight? If so I'd love that pick.
 
Hes developed alot and got huge since his highschool days. I swear he reminds me of Amare. Hes a coo kid, never picked fights and he swore he had a 3, we fooled around and he hit 9 to my 7 in a row. I just think it would be exciting to have someone i spent a year with on the Kings. Great athlete and healthy
 
Disagree big time on the Harangody part. He's pretty much dominated every NBA prospect put in front of him the last couple of years. He'll translate. He can also shoot from NBA 3 point range, at the very least he'll be a legit spot up shooter at PF. You also underrate Harangody's athleticism. Amundson doesn't have 1/10th the offensive skill Harangody has.

I don't think I'd go so far as to say Harangody has dominated every NBA prospect put in front of him. He's certainly put up some good numbers against good competition. He certainly out played Thabeet last year in their first meeting, but Thabeet dominated him in their second meeting. Harangody is a crafty player with very good post skills and a good jumpshot. So yes, he's more skilled than Amundson. But the dude is not a good athlete and the dude is around 6'7". Is it possible that he will surprise us and be way better than most think? Well anything is possible. But I sure as hell wouldn't bet my house on it.

When you stop and think about it. To say that he's a better player than Amundson isn't much of an endorsement.
 
My understanding (from a post at the Bee), is the Kings' 2nd round pick is TOP 41 PROTECTED. I think that it's a pretty safe bet that we'll have our 2nd round pick this year. Sorry I don't have time to research the Bee to find the article.
 
In the second round there will be some very Landry like PFs, and a couple might have some real talent

I would say that there's more than a couple, and they're not all Landry size. All of these guys, if they declare should be second round picks.

Kenneth Faried: 6'8", 215 lb PF. Played both PF and C in college. Probably a SF in the Pro's. Freak athlete and one of my personal favorites.

Jarvis Varnado: 6'9", 215 lb PF. All time shotblocking leader in NCAA history.

Jerome Jordan: 7', 245 lb C. Somewhat of an underacheiver, but played well in the NCAA tournament. Good athlete for a big man.

Art Parakhouski: 6'11", 260 lb C. Averaged over 20/10 for the year at Radford. Was a man amongst boys in his conference.

Charles Garcia: 6'10", 230 lb PF. Very talented big man in another small conference. Good athlete who does everything well on offense. Biggest problem is between his ears.

Dexter Pittman: 6'10", 290 lb C. Really faded at the end of the year along with his team. Has shown ability, and is a surprisingly good athlete despite his weight. His weight and stamina are his main concerns.

Craig Brackins: 6'10", 230 lb PF. Lost some weight in the offseason to become quicker. Improved his post game and rebounding. I question his height. At a suspossed 6'10" he still looks smaller than a lot of his competition.

Dwayne Collins: 6'8" 241 lb PF. One of those undersized PF's your talking about. He's a good athlete with a very good wingspan. Does almost all of his scoring in the post and most of that is dunks and putbacks. His post game is very raw. Pretty good defender and shotblocker.

Trevor Booker: 6'7", 245 lb PF. Probably the closest to being a Landry clone. Landry has a better post game, but like Landry he has a very good jumpshot. He's a better athlete than landry with very explosive jumping ability. He's also a tad shorter than Landry, but does have a long wingspan.

Michael Washington: 6'10", 240 lb PF. Surprising that he's ranked as low as he is. I've only seen him play three times this year, but he played well all three times. I'm not saying he's the cats meow, but he's a pretty good player that I think can play in the NBA.

Luke Harangody: 6'7", 240 lb PF. Another undersized PF. Except this one is not a good athlete, but an overacheiver surpreme. You can't deny his results at Notre Dame.

Derrick Caractor: 6'9", 245 lb PF. Another player that switched schools. He had issues at Louisville with his weight, temperment and Pittino. Sat out a year and re-emerged at UTEP as an almost different person and player. He had a very nice season. Was the nunber two ranked highschool player in the nation coming out of highschool behind Greg Oden. Who he outplayed in the nike highschool game.

Yancey Gates: 6'9", 245 Lb PF. He had an up and down year. Very strong player. Not particularly skilled in anything. Still learning the game.

Renardo Sidney: 6'9", 250 lb PF. Was suspossed to play for Mississippi St. this year. It never happened because of NCAA investigations. I would forget his name if I were you.

Omar Samhan: 6'11", 265 lb C. He got St. Mary's into the sweet sixteen. Averaged over 30 points a game in the first two games. Not particularly athletic, but somehow just gets the job done.
 
I don't think I'd go so far as to say Harangody has dominated every NBA prospect put in front of him. He's certainly put up some good numbers against good competition. He certainly out played Thabeet last year in their first meeting, but Thabeet dominated him in their second meeting. Harangody is a crafty player with very good post skills and a good jumpshot. So yes, he's more skilled than Amundson. But the dude is not a good athlete and the dude is around 6'7". Is it possible that he will surprise us and be way better than most think? Well anything is possible. But I sure as hell wouldn't bet my house on it.

When you stop and think about it. To say that he's a better player than Amundson isn't much of an endorsement.

Well then lets add the word "easily" in front of better player.
 
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